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That sounds normal for someone from outside the country. If they couldn't assess your credit, they didn't know if you were worth the risk or not...

Not really. Two year contracts aren't normal outside of North America. Most pay more for their phone's and simply pay for the minutes they use, therefore they don't pay extra fees such as ETF's, contracts, etc. Yes, we pay less for a subsidized device, however I have paid full price for my iPhone's and have sold my previous models unlocked on eBay for ~$375-$425 depending on device and sale. Paying the difference for a $600 iPhone off contract allows me the freedom to at least leave without penalty should AT&T screw us more. It's ludicrous to lock people into contracts and then start messing with our service by circumventing legal matters or not fully informing customers at the time of purchase that the agreement negates class action lawsuits (which is why customers are suing AT&T in small claims court for their unjustified throttling of many unlimited accounts).
 
This is ******** ! I have been a loyal customer for 14 years now and have 5 'smartphones' and smart users using them. What crap !
 
Until there's a huge public outcry or the government steps in to regulate this, the telecoms will take whatever money they can get away with. There's no need for "upgrade" fees; the telecoms should be paying you to stay with them. They would have a hard time convincing me that activating a new phone costs them $30 -- especially when I don't even have to activate it at their store.

Regulation won't help. The 30 dollars will be transfered into some other fee. Regulation is never the answer. As much as I hate this, the market will value the phones where it sees fit, and Verizon can do whatever the #*&% it wants until the market speaks.
 
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All of these cell phone companies are getting out of hand.....they are making it seem as a privilege to commit to two more years of loyal service. Horrible, and that fee doesn't give anything back to consumers, wireless workshops are taught by employees that don't get paid extra to do so. This is just the start of these cell phone companies nonsense.
 
I don't know how much market share T-Mobile/Verizon/Sprint/AT&T hold on the wireless market, but DOJ needs to baby bell the shit out of them.
 
I hate it when ******** is this obvious. I like it better when i hear from a friend about something that convinces me "oh yeah, that doesn't make sense. I AM getting screwed over". But stuff like this? I mean its just so...obvious. They're literally saying "i'm charging more because i feel like charging more". There's no reason the cost of phones should be going up, competition and technology being more readily available should be pushing the costs down if anything.
 
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America is the only country in the world that charges all these bloody fees. They even make you pay some ridiculous amount of money for the SIM card. Everywhere else in the world you get your sim for free, and it's free to replace if you lose/break/eat it.

In the Netherlands we also have activation costs and we are also charged if we need our SIM replaced.

Oh, how I dream of founding PeopleMobile, the carrier that is "for the people". No activation fee, upgrade fee, franchise fee, SIM costs, data-limit, paying for receiving texts...

And a promise on paper that once you get on board, the plan will not change. New customers might get new plans, but existing customers won't.

Does anyone have a couple of billions bucks lying around somewhere? </wishful thinking>
 
When it's time for an upgrade, call and tell them to waive the fee. If they say no, tell them you want to port the number to a different carrier. I guarantee you they will waive all the fees.
 
Not really. Two year contracts aren't normal outside of North America. Most pay more for their phone's and simply pay for the minutes they use, therefore they don't pay extra fees such as ETF's, contracts, etc. Yes, we pay less for a subsidized device, however I have paid full price for my iPhone's and have sold my previous models unlocked on eBay for ~$375-$425 depending on device and sale. Paying the difference for a $600 iPhone off contract allows me the freedom to at least leave without penalty should AT&T screw us more. It's ludicrous to lock people into contracts and then start messing with our service by circumventing legal matters or not fully informing customers at the time of purchase that the agreement negates class action lawsuits (which is why customers are suing AT&T in small claims court for their unjustified throttling of many unlimited accounts).

Well, you have a point there, but they're the only game in town. There are companies that have no contract, but they're prepaid, and piggyback off of other's networks. It really does suck that we have to get a contract for the iPhone, but it's one of those things thats kinda like "If you don't like it, go somewhere else" and then after that, they laugh as they take your money. :(
 
They're basically charging us a fee to do their job. They're a cell provider, all they do is activate new phones and upgrade current customers.
 
Here's an idea, stop these programs, cut the fee, and direct these people to Apple's support.

I don't think Apple will support Verizon phones other than the iPhone. Unless I missed somethig, the article is not specific to the iPhone. Or, is the iPhone the far majority of ownership by Verizon customers?
 
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Dang it. My wife's contract is up on April 24th. She has an Android phone, and I wanted to upgrade her to an iPhone 4s for an early Mother's day gift.

I need to figure out a way to cut my bill down so that Verizon loses a lot more than $30 from me over the long run. Time to get creative!
 
100%. Never had any extra fees tacked on anything..Had AT&T since 1999 and don't ever see leaving them.. Verizon does online bill paying fees, etc..seems they want to nickel and dime you everywhere.

Never paid a fee for paying my VZW bill online...

I bet 4/22 is the day they start Family Shared Data. Hmmm... Been waiting to upgrade my wife's feature phone for an iPhone when that hits. Wonder if I am sure enough to gamble that is when they launch it to get the phone early and immediately switch....

I love how this is now something exciting. Verizon used to offer blanket data on its family share plan. The plan could be upgraded for $30, and every line got unlimited data. Seriously. It pissed me off, because they did away with this a couple of months before I switched to a data-hungry phone. Now, they're sort of bringing back something they had years ago, and we're supposed to be grateful?
 
Is this fee only if you buy it through ATT, Verizon or Sprint or does it happen if you buy it through other outlets such as Apple Store, Radio Shack and Best Buy.
 
HOLD ON A MINUTE!!!

Americans pay to sign a new contract??? LOL

Not only have the worse data plans in the world and the worst pricing plans

You also have to PAY to sign up for 2 years? LOL

In the UK they pay ME £110 to take a new contract...

2000 minutes
5000 minutes network to network
5000 texts
Unlimited Data with no fair use or throttling
Free iPhone 4S
24 months
£35 a month = $45 per month without VAT

I guess that monopoly issue with the Bell Corp really didn't solve anything did it.
 
so I am wondering why the carriers don't cut the monthly fees after our contract is up?

We sign a 2 year contract to make sure that our new fancy phone is subsidized, but once that period is over, shouldn't the subsidy payment be discontinued?

In a perfect world, this would be true.

This is why the carriers would prefer you to not upgrade at all, provided you stay with them off-contract. If you were to upgrade every 2 years, they're basically pissing away $300-500 bucks. But if you kept your phone for 4 years, they'd keep that 2nd subsidy, but still make the same on the monthly charges.

They really only want you to upgrade from a dumbphone to a smartphone, since they get you on the $30/mo data plan. But they really don't want you upgrading in the same class (dumbphone to dumbphone; smart to smart).

In a perfect world, they would have different rates for subsidized and non-subsidized users. But then the phone manufacturers would moan that their sales are stagnating ... due to people holding onto their $800 phones for 4 or 5 years.

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