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Verizon Tops Expectations with 3.9 Million iPhone Activations in Q2 2013
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By that logic, the majority of new phone buyers don't see the value in a larger screen over what Apple offers as an overall product and experience.
Says the man who has never had 4.5" iphone.
Anyone ever say the following:
"I wish i had a smaller tv." "I wish this SLR had a smaller screen." "I wish i had a smaller monitor." "I wish i had a smaller house, kitchen, refrigerator, rims, boobs, i wish i was shorter."
That's all well and good, but it doesn't apply here. Because everyone has the option to get a 4.5" phone and even a bigger than 5" (LOL) phone. And yet they continue to get the iPhone. In record numbers.
Why do they do that, according to your logic?
Ugh, because they like iphones, not because they like small screens. What if Apple had a 30% market share rather than 50%, would you say the same thing? I bet you would.
Honestly i want to see the content better, and i think everyone does whether they know it or not. I'm aware that speaking for everyone is very unpopular. They got it wrong, and in the case of the iPhone that wrong lasts two long years.
What do any of those have to do with the fact that there is more to a phone than just it's screen size?
A phone with a bigger screen may *look* nicer but may be harder to use. When I am using my phone one handed, my thumb needs to be a Le to reach the whole screen. That is more important to me than being able to have slightly larger pixels.
Also - I like phones that fit well in pockets. Too big and a phone is a pain in the ass.
And I have actually downsized my hose, I didn't like having a bigger house. I prefer a smaller house with nicer stuff in a better neighborhood.
I have also downsized a monitor to better fit on my desk, and in the process I upgraded the brightness, viewing angle, and contrast ratio as well as a more efficient use of electricity.
Size alone is a poor predictor of value and performance.
Well yes that is my point. They like the phone, and your examples about people saying "I want a smaller this and that" is irrelevant because it's blatantly obvious that screen size is not a factor in how people choose their phones. If it was, Apple would not be outselling every bigger sized phone out there, combined at Verizon (and probably everywhere else).
If the iPhone was 4.3-4.5" I would not buy it.
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I have used 4.3" phones and found the screen size too large for most operations. Nice for some things not at all nice for many. It is called compromise.
I have no desire for a larger house and have often thought of downsizing. My kitchen is sometimes too big for what I use it for but I like it. Having used a Petax 645 DSLR, I don't want one as a 5D Mk II and 1D Mk II currently work great. Not everyone has p____ envy.
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You could say the same thing about Android and big screens. As in ... people don't buy Android because they like it, they buy it because it's cheaper.
The truth is probably somewhere in the middle as everyone has different priorities in their choices. Whichever phone hits on more needs/wants gets the sale.
Apple goes at it differently than other vendors. Apple builds one phone that hits what they feel is the sweet spot. Samsung, et al builds many different models that hit on all sorts of features (screen size, build quality, price) and cover their bases that way.
Neither one is the correct way as they're both achieving the objective they set out to accomplish. Apple wants to sell enough iPhones to make gobs of money and make sure there are enough users to keep the platform relevant. Samsung wants to take the market share title and make gobs of money through sheer volume. They're both winning ... at the expense of everyone else.
Screen size is absolutely a factor. But for many it's not the FINAL deciding factor. There's a difference.
Since when did activations translate into sales? Or even vice versa, sales into activations.
There is the entire possibility of people buying secondhand, gifted or whatnot iPhones off of Craigslist or eBay, those profits obviously go to the seller, not apple itself.
There is the entire possibility of people buying secondhand, gifted or whatnot iPhones off of Craigslist or eBay, those profits obviously go to the seller, not apple itself.
So one carrier in the US sold half as many iPhones than Nokia was able to sell Lumina phones world wide? And Nokia dominates Window Phone 8 sales? If that perspective is correct, I can only think Microsoft will be coming out with a Surface phone sooner rather than later. There is no way that Microsoft is going to let WP*'s success be tied to a manufacturer whose products are not selling. As per Surface Tablets, MSFT can do that by themselves.
This is the best informatiion that you're gonna get. All the US carriers report activations only. Not entirely sure if it's new activations only, or otherwise, but after all the carriers report their numbers, and you compare it to what Apple reports, the numbers add up. (note - this is the only number that would be relevant since not all Verizon iPhones are sold by Verizon, but all Verizon iPhones are activated by them)
There's no reason to believe that 3.8 million (or 3.9 depending on your source) is the number of Verizon iPhones that were sold in Q2.
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Is this even relevant? Incidentally, they activated 7.5 million smartphones, of which 3.8 million of them were iPhones.
I think Verizon did report the number of new customers and how many they lost. Only it's not broken down by phone brands.
then what what about the news which reported that VZ will face a huge loss this year for not selling enough iphones
That was probably BS, or at least it was intentionally misleading. All of the financial blogs/website/magazines/channels are happy to report the tiniest information that can be spun in a negative way against Apple.
then why were they saying that VZ wont be able to sell enough iphones and will face a big loss this year.
Who is "they"? Seriously, you have to take a look at the source of that data and try and determine their motive. This was coming from an independent research firm that I've never heard of. I don't know what their track record is on these types of things. A couple of analysts took this data and extrapolated that the $23.5B was "mostly iPhones" ... huh????!?! How did they arrive at that assumption? Did they call Verizon and check with them?
Now, I'm not saying that the data is wrong or the analyst's interpretation is wrong ... I'm just skeptical. Here's why.
1. For Verizon to back themselves into a deal like this, they must have grossly overestimated the growth of the market. If they missed this badly, then their executives are extremely incompetent.
2. Would Apple allow a customer to sign such a bad deal, know that they have no possible way of meeting the contractual agreement? Nothing good can come out of this scenario and I doubt Apple would have forced a contract like this on a customer. Heck, Apple can't even make that many iPhones to begin with.
3. Verizon recently had their Earnings Conference Call. I'm not privy to what was discussed, but I've not seen any followup to this story. Either Verizon answered the question and indicated that it was bogus, or the legitimate analysts didn't ask the question becuase it was BS to begin with. You'd think with the way Wall Street is all over any Apple info, that they'd be asking every Verizon exec about this ... and after a week, it's not even talked about anymore.
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It's not knowledge. It's healthy skepticism of the Wall Street machine. It's also opinion, not fact. I would never imply that I have any factual inside information.
Anyways, we'll all know everything tomorrow afternoon as Apple will release earnings.
Should be an interesting earnings report indeed. They've already beaten expectations at Verizon, I'm curious if they'll do the same overall.
The threads tomorrow from the naysayers should be fun to read, I always look forward to them lol.