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Wow this looks pretty good actually. I have Verizon on wireless so $50 no taxes/fees/hardware lease costs is super nice. From what I understand 5g latency is really decent, and I'm not an online gamer so don't really care much. I wonder what the upload speeds are, as I use my home PC to stream PC games remotely.
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$50 service with a 2yr contract, then $80 + $10 wireless convenience fee + taxes - $5 for using a check account to pay

If you read the press release that includes taxes/fees/hardware costs so it's out the door, and they also stipulate no contract. Things may change, but for now it seems like a pretty solid deal.
 
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Certainly sounds interesting to say the least. However, I'll be sticking with FiOS if/when Verizon 5G comes to my area.
 
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No limit caps? Really?
Just got a single PS4 game update totaled at 33GB.
They will not last for long with usages like this.

They have to have high or no limits or they will not last in the home market. You really have to abuse the heck out of your plan for a home ISP to give you any trouble.
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Certainly sounds interesting to say the least. However, I'll be sticking with FiOS if/when Verizon 5G comes to my area.

Been waiting for FIOS for years and years, and I live in a pretty dense suburban area 40 minutes from NYC. From what I understand Verizon has abandoned much of it's plan to lay out physical wire/fiber, which makes sense as setting up the remote cells for 5g seems much easier.
 
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Hmm, I'd also be curious how well it does with congestion. I'm on Optimum cable at home and I absolutely detest it. In the evenings and weekends it slows down to a crawl, downloads are slow and video streaming is laggy, pauses and buffers a lot.
 
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They have to have high or no limits or they will not last in the home market. You really have to abuse the heck out of your plan for a home ISP to give you any trouble.
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Been waiting for FIOS for years and years, and I live in a pretty dense suburban area 40 minutes from NYC. From what I understand Verizon has abandoned much of it's plan to lay out physical wire/fiber, which makes sense as setting up the remote cells for 5g seems much easier.
I am doubting they will actually keep the no limit for long.
 
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But there are still some issues. While 5G is better, it still doesn't have the low latency that gamers need. And while 300Mbit to potentially 1Gbit is possible with this Verizon offering, that's still going to fall short with companies like Comcast offering 1Gbit service now (and as has always been the case, the base speed continues to rise so in a few years 1Gbit will be far less than it costs now from them). Additionally, think of how many have issues getting decent wireless service in their home. That's not generally the case with traditional wired home service.

Your info about latency is out-of-date. I've got 5G fixed wireless (from a startup) and the latency is typically 2-3ms. The provider says 200 mbps down & up, but my speeds are typically closer to 300 mbps. No data caps, no contract, $50/month, and that includes the modem/router. My biggest problem for bandwidth is WiFi (reinforced concrete building), not the uplink to the provider.
 
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How does more speed help me? Serious question

Everything works fine right now...

You'll be able to burn through your data much quicker. Don't worry brah, a data cap is on the way a few months down just like their unlimited data for phones.
 
Is "no caps" here like "unlimited*" cellular service? For instance, no caps but after 20GB, we'll throttle you down towards dialup speeds... unless you pay the "heavy bandwidth user" fee.

We all know how things go with Verizon, AT&T, Comcast and similar. The bait always looks delicious. But where's the hook(s)? We know they are there but some will pretend to not know... or maybe not actually know until they are in the boat, filleted, and laid out on a platter.

And then it's "How did my "$50 with no caps" plan end up at $128.45?"

"And what's this speed consistency fee?"
"And what's this data origination fee?"
"And what's this data security checkpoint fee?
"And what's this data destination fee?"
"And what's this ku-ku-ka-choo fee?"
"And what's this becausawecanna fee?"
"And what's this becauseyoupayaanyway fee?"
"And what's this VerizonExecHawaiiGetawayBonus fee?"
Etc ;)
You forgot to mention the "slamming" and "cramming" charges added to the bill. You may be too young to remember when the landline telcos would suddenly switch you to a 3rd-party high-cost long distance carrier, or to their own captive high-cost long-distance carrier. And adding bogus 3rd-party charges to your bill - things like "security protection", "home wiring protection" and 900-prefix toll calls for nonsense like horoscopes. There is no end to the mischief created by the (formerly) monopoly telcos.

I would pay more to another company, just to avoid dealing with Verizon.
 
Is this just internet or does it include TV? Why is this better than FIOS?

Do you need TV though? In 2018. Plus, they are giving you a free Apple TV so I imagine they are trying to nudge people in that direction. Everything I do is Chromecast/Roku, whatever.
 
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Something like 40% of Americans have no choice in their broadband provider. 4 million have no access at all; 10 million households have no access to wired internet; fully 56 million have no access to a connection of any type over 25 Mbps (the FCC broadband standard). Hopefully, 5G will finally let the US join the rest of the technical world in terms of affordable internet access.

Google Fiber, after a decade got nowhere.

RV community, heavily relies on VZ cell cervice, because VZ is a number 1 cell company for RVers and campers in US as far as coverage; cell phone and hot spots.
But unlimited high speed 5g, will die off very quickly. If VZ can’t provide 4glte unlimited and uncapped to all its customers today, then there is no way every customer in US will have unlimited and uncapped 5G service, at least not for a decade... or two. Just my opinion. But things could change. But, 200k full time RVs, streaming 4K Netflix videos at the same time, will heavily tax VZ 5g network, same network that is used by 4G LTE, using same towers.

In few years, VZ will do the same to 5g as they did to 4G LTE. Unlimited with a 25gb cap. It’s a shame, because VZ home Fios, has no cap, unless in rare cases you are downloading 1TB -5TB every month.
 
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Do you need TV though? In 2018. Plus, they are giving you a free Apple TV so I imagine they are trying to nudge people in that direction. Everything I do is Chromecast/Roku, whatever.

Around here that may be common, but there's still an awful lot of people who want live TV packages. It's the only way to go for sports if nothing else, or if you don't want to wait a few days for the latest episodes of a show to appear online, or simply prefer mindlessly flipping through channels over looking for specific content on Roku. Honestly, while my family is about 50% streaming / 50% TV, the additional cost for "TV" is pretty small compared to an Internet Only plan, especially since we'd probably sign up for a couple additional streaming services if we did that.
 
It's not just about you. It's about all network users. If you want to watch a video, which uses a lot of bandwidth, your device can connect, download and disconnect from the network much more quickly, freeing up the network for other users. Instead, if the connection was slower, you could be consuming network resources for a longer period of time, affecting all users. So yes, a faster connection helps manage the network resources more efficiently.
Nonsense. If your connection is slow, you're using far less bandwidth, making your impact on the destination network low. Keep in mind, that most websites and services will throttle connections so that they can't consume all the bandwidth anyway. Your gigabit internet is, in most cases, not going to give you gigabit speeds, or even close. At this point, connections that fast are mostly pointless.
 
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Around here that may be common, but there's still an awful lot of people who want live TV packages. It's the only way to go for sports if nothing else, or if you don't want to wait a few days for the latest episodes of a show to appear online, or simply prefer mindlessly flipping through channels over looking for specific content on Roku. Honestly, while my family is about 50% streaming / 50% TV, the additional cost for "TV" is pretty small compared to an Internet Only plan, especially since we'd probably sign up for a couple additional streaming services if we did that.

That was one of the things I liked about WatchTV. It was just easier to find something to watch. Granted it is the same stuff that is on Direct TV but it beat losing a lot of time looking for content. Plus it did not count against my data allowance on AT&T.
 
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