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Verizon's 'iPhone Killer', the LG Voyager, Disappoints?

i was at verizon today and played with one for a few minutes. its def. not an iphone killer at all. I rather get the pearl that is cheaper and is better all around and screw the touch screen. instead of scrolling using the 4 way button on phones you touch what you want... big whoop....
 
well i must say that this phone is no "iphone killer". i am going to buy it however due to the lack of AT&T coverage...:D
 
that is why im leaving verizon , that phone is a joke... why do they have to have the lame verizon gui.... ill have a iphone by christmas!!
 
This is really starting to get on my nerves real bad. I love Apple. Why do you think I have two Macs with Applecare each, two iPods, an Apple wireless keyboard, and had my sister get an iPod mini? Also, I'm dedicated to Apple as I always drive to their retail store (75+ miles away) whenever I want to buy something significant. I would love to have an iPhone... If it wasn't on AT&T. And I hate defending Verizon, but...

First of all, there is a piece of false information in the article written by Arn. The browser is not Openwave, as it supports full HTML. I forgot who makes the browser, but it is NOT Openwave.

Second of all, why wouldn't Verizon put 3G in their phone? It's almost abundant in most cities. Hell, rural Southern Illinois went live earlier this month. I live in a town of 3200 and we have EVDO. EVDO does not suck that much battery life. And 4 hours of usage as mentioned by erandall38, that would be talk time. Possibly a little less if browsing the web/VCAST, but more if you are using it as a music player or text messaging. Even picture taking. You have to take note that most of the time, the lowest amount of battery life mentioned in a review is usually the talk time.

The Voyager is as close to the iPhone as I will get unless AT&T decides to move off their chair and buy some spectrum up in my county. That said, I will not buy it. I will be getting the Pearl instead because it has the features I want.

Yes, I agree, Verizon had no reason to call it the iPhone Killer as they knew they couldn't compete at all. But for those who have only Verizon coverage or no AT&T coverage in the area (or are biased against them) this is a great alternative.

I know I'm going to be flamed, but honestly. Think different. That's what Apple did.
 
Of course it disappoints, the folks complaining about the iPhone being closed off don't seem to realize that Verizon's phones are crippled and closed off in far worse ways. And that is without considering how much they just suck in other ways. That doesn't mean that I'm happy with the Apple's vision of the iPhone, or that I will switch from Verizon to AT&T, nor does it mean I'll pay big bucks for this second-rate "iPhone."

The "Insert-Your-Item-Here Killer" headline is just a lame grab for reads, it seems like every month since CNet admitted (grudgingly) that the iPod was great they've declared a new iPod killer. Now we'll see the iPhone get the same attention.
 
zflauaus said:
This is really starting to get on my nerves real bad. I love Apple. Why do you think I have two Macs with Applecare each, two iPods, an Apple wireless keyboard, and had my sister get an iPod mini? Also, I'm dedicated to Apple as I always drive to their retail store (75+ miles away) whenever I want to buy something significant. I would love to have an iPhone... If it wasn't on AT&T. And I hate defending Verizon, but...

First of all, there is a piece of false information in the article written by Arn. The browser is not Openwave, as it supports full HTML. I forgot who makes the browser, but it is NOT Openwave.

Second of all, why wouldn't Verizon put 3G in their phone? It's almost abundant in most cities. Hell, rural Southern Illinois went live earlier this month. I live in a town of 3200 and we have EVDO. EVDO does not suck that much battery life. And 4 hours of usage as mentioned by erandall38, that would be talk time. Possibly a little less if browsing the web/VCAST, but more if you are using it as a music player or text messaging. Even picture taking. You have to take note that most of the time, the lowest amount of battery life mentioned in a review is usually the talk time.

The Voyager is as close to the iPhone as I will get unless AT&T decides to move off their chair and buy some spectrum up in my county. That said, I will not buy it. I will be getting the Pearl instead because it has the features I want.

Yes, I agree, Verizon had no reason to call it the iPhone Killer as they knew they couldn't compete at all. But for those who have only Verizon coverage or no AT&T coverage in the area (or are biased against them) this is a great alternative.

I know I'm going to be flamed, but honestly. Think different. That's what Apple did.
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I agree with you 100%.:)Right on
 
I was playing around with the Voyager today...seemed pretty bulky to me. Not sure I'd want to haul that around coming from a razor... I thought the smaller sibling, the Venus was pretty cool though. Maybe I'll get that. I don't txt much, plus have my MBP most of the time, so I think the Venus would suffice.
 
cloudnine said:
I have to say, though, that my heart sinks a little when I read about a phone that has GPS... *sigh* How nice would it be to have GPS incorporated with Google Maps on the iPhone? *drool*
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Batterie life would be horrible, meabe on the next gen or 3rd... who knows.

But we can always dream....

Sher

PS: this Voyager is very an bad and ugly copy of the Iphone, yack !
 
LG is stupid for blatantly ripping off the iPhone. This is the problem all iPod and now iPhone "killers" seem to make. They all copy Apple's version and do a worse job at everything, then throw in some features Apple's product doesn't have, and expect it to kill the iPod/iPhone. You will NEVER be able to beat Apple at its own game, they're simply the best. If you want to kill the iPhone, come up with a design and interface that is just as, if not more original and intuitive than Apples'! Nobody will want this phone as it's clearly just an iPhone knockoff, people will want the real thing! It never ceases to amaze me how naive these companies are.
 
It's made by LG, what did people really expect. I mean sure the company has come out with nice things, just never anything that has any wow factor.
 
I am 100% open to competition in the market, but yes this phone is not going to kill the iPhone. Hopefully by March we will have the iPhone 2 and even if phones from other competitors start to look and feel more like the iPhone we all know the iPhone 2 is going to blow them out of the water.
 
cloudnine said:
I have to say, though, that my heart sinks a little when I read about a phone that has GPS... *sigh* How nice would it be to have GPS incorporated with Google Maps on the iPhone? *drool*
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I've had a phone with GPS in it (Nextel i860). The GPS was horrendously inaccurate for driving directions. Sitting at a stop light the thing would "move" me as much as several hundred feet on the map. The voice driving directions would constantly tell me to turn at the wrong time and, while not the phone's fault, would loop me around my destination to be sure the system had enough time to tell me the next turn.
For all of those flaws I also got a phone that would run for about 4 hours in GPS mode since all that satellite tracking, Java running and internet downloading was really intensive.

I've use my iPhone for navigation almost every day. Granted I don't usually need turn by turn directions, just a close-up of the last mile in most cases.

Navizon.com does make locating yourself easier/faster on the iPhone and it's good enough for what I need to do.

For those in large metro areas with real mass transit systems (not Phoenix, AZ as I am), you might also want to look at hopstop.com. It will get you around the larger international cities via bus, train, subway with walking directions to and from the terminal stops. I LOVED this site when I was visiting NY.
 
I had a Nextel i860 as well - same experience - it was ROUGH for gps...course, it was rough for about anything but that's Nextel for you. I do have Verizon and my phone (LG 8600) is really good for GPS...at least it's the best working GPS I've had on a phone so far.

BUT

This is the thing about the Voyager...the reason people like the iPhone so much and the reason it's been successful, aside from features, is that Apple makes products that last longer, hands down. I became a Mac user several months ago - now we have a MacBook and an iBook in the house and will never go back to a Windows world. BUT, for years when we were using Windows and buying new computers every year and a half to two years, we were always hearing people say that the way Macs worked you would get 3-4 years out of one. I now see why this is. My Verizon phone--I'll get a year out of it and that will be pushing it. ...it's just like a Windows computer--it's piece of junk hardware not worth keeping for the long haul. They cut corners on little things; software, hardware, design etc. Apple's products just feel nicer--they don't feel cheap. The iPhone doesn't feel cheap--it's solid in your hands, upgradeable, nice looking etc. My LG phone--I throw it around--it's insured; the heck do I care if it breaks--I take it in and I get a new one. To me it's not worth dimes. The only thing I like about my cheap phone is that it's on Verizon and the service simply works good. If Verizon had the iPhone I'd have two of them.

So, long and short--there will be no iPhone killer because in the world of computers and cell phones, there's Apple and Windows (in my opinion, if a phone plays media and the media it plays includes windows media audio and video and if it syncs only with windows like 99.9% of cell phones do, then it's a windows phone) and Apple seems to be the only one making hardware worth keeping and using.

I laughed at the Voyager--it's a glorified EnV--total piece of junk.

Wish I had an iPhone, but wish Verizon sold it even more.
 
You know what's amazing to me? The fact that the iPhone has, in five months or so, asserted itself as the yardstick by which all other phones are measured. (The iPod didn't achieve that status amongst music players for at least a year or so after its introduction.) The fact that phone makers appear to be trying to produce an iPhone killer is a giveaway that Apple's competition is taking them very seriously even if the public statements from their execs sound dismissive. And the way tech publications approach new phones from the perspective of its "iPhone-ness" must be a nonstop source of irritation for those companies who have been making phones all these years. Whether you're a fan of the iPhone or not, you have to admit that's a pretty amazing feat for Apple, especially given the fact that they're so new to the market.
 
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let's not forget the iPhone's stunning display.
 
maestro55 said:
I am 100% open to competition in the market, but yes this phone is not going to kill the iPhone. Hopefully by March we will have the iPhone 2 and even if phones from other competitors start to look and feel more like the iPhone we all know the iPhone 2 is going to blow them out of the water.
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I wont really get my hopes up for iPhone 2. At most it`ll have 3G,GPS and more memory. Which are all nice but not really ground breaking. More of evolutionary than revolutionary like the current iPhone.
 
i bought the voyager and i love it, of course i wish i could have gotten the iphone I'm a mac addict. but i live in the new england area and at&t aka cingular reception is lousy, where as verizon reception is far superior , as well as customer service, I'm a visiting nurse and i can not afford dropped calls,

i love the web browser , so i can look up medical info if need be, also verizon provides insurance on their phones (similar to apple care) at&t/iphone doesn't offer that, so i am protected if my mobile gets lost, stolen, or broken.
and also verizon gives a person 30 days test drive the phone.

but so far i love it , certainly has alot of bells and whistles on it.
i love LG mobiles, the mobile i had before i got the voyager was an LG and had it for 3 years and nothing went wrong with the mobile , except i needed a new battery,

they are selling well here in the boston area, i bought the last one at the verizon store where i shopped, the people that could not get them at store were ordering them to be shipped to them.

all I can say apples flaw with the iphone is going with at&t as their sole provider,
 
stagfish said:
that is why im leaving verizon , that phone is a joke... why do they have to have the lame verizon gui.... ill have a iphone by christmas!!
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i 2nd u on that. i just upgraded to a new two year contract at verizon but i will be returning the phone and going back to my old two year contract (which would have been up the first week in january) and i am leaving verizon and picking up an iphone instead of this voyager crap
 
louelou21 said:
i 2nd u on that. i just upgraded to a new two year contract at verizon but i will be returning the phone and going back to my old two year contract (which would have been up the first week in january) and i am leaving verizon and picking up an iphone instead of this voyager crap
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Exactly how are you planning on going back to the old plan if you just re-signed? I smell a early termination fee coming your way.
 
Huh? Its not an iPhone so I don't see how it could disappoint? Well other then the fact that its handled by the second crappiest carrier in the US.
 
the future!

I'm not psychic.

But, I still think that many segments of the market could benefit from making their user experience as friendly as apple has. Products such as digital cameras, tv's, VCR's (still!), computers, software, video games, cell phones--all have room at the top of the category for breakout products like the iPhone.

Why can't manufacturers see this trend and respond?

Are we all so dependent on foreign programmers that we can't translate all the data into a great user experience?

Instead of the iPhone killer...make a digital camera that you don't have to refer to the 75 page multi-lingual user's guide to figure out how to turn on "manual focus."

Come on...
 
zflauaus said:
Second of all, why wouldn't Verizon put 3G in their phone? It's almost abundant in most cities. Hell, rural Southern Illinois went live earlier this month. I live in a town of 3200 and we have EVDO. EVDO does not suck that much battery life. And 4 hours of usage as mentioned by erandall38, that would be talk time. Possibly a little less if browsing the web/VCAST, but more if you are using it as a music player or text messaging. Even picture taking. You have to take note that most of the time, the lowest amount of battery life mentioned in a review is usually the talk time.
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Well the iPhone is stated as 8. So according to your model. It is 8 hours talk time (which is correct and expected.)
- The iPhone will get more if you are just using it as a music player... much much more
- EVDO might take up less than 3G but if with a battery that only holds 4 hours talk time you do not have much time to spare- and lots of people would be using 3G.
- keep in mind almost all phone providers state that their battery is one level but in real world situation its not.

The point of the thread is "Voyager, the iPhone killer". So really it is irrelevant what internet provider you are using... it comes no where close to killing the iPhone.
If you non-stop used the internet on the iPhone its battery would last longer than if you non-stop talked on the voyager....
 
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