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Vertex 2 & 3 are crap?
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No worries... there is A TON of misinformation on this forum. There's a lot of users that offer advice that should NOT be and should be either reading or asking questions instead.
There are also a lot that really do know what they're talking about though.
johnnyturbouk
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(1) Correct me if i am wrong, i thought OS support for TRIM is for apple SSDs only - do you have any links informing me of the contrary?
(2) The TRIM hack is rather hit and miss on Sata 6 drives, and again, from the TRIM -enabler hack thread over in the mac-pro forums on MR, i remember the M4 was one of the affected drives, along with a few other sata-3 6gb/s ssd.
Been using two Vertex 2 SSDs for ~6 months with no issues at all (one in my MBP and one in my gaming PC).
I don't know, just going buy what I've been told. I don't really know much about OS X. I'm more a Windows user.
I still want to see how much performance an M4 would really loose w/o TRIM. The performance degradation Anand shows is more an effect of filling up the drive completely than long term use performance degradation.
Even with TRIM enabled filling up the M4 is a bad idea because it has no over provisioning (shown in Tomshardware review).
W/o TRIM, for heavy users it's a good idea to have aggressive GC. For the average user I doubt Crucial M4 GC isn't good enough.
johnnyturbouk
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very true.. i currently have my trusted OWC 120gb sata-2 3gb/s. Nil probs to date, never bothered to update the firmware. Filled the drive many times, as i have osx and windows on the ssd and still have read write speeds of 270/255 mb/s, respectively (no TRIM hack enabled). I flirted with both the c300 and a vertex 2. The v2 was working fine then died after a week - returned it to amazon. The c300 was a total nightmare, first DOA, second, many beachballs and hang-ups, so returned it anf went back to my owc ssd, which has till date been flawless.
I have just ordered the patriot wildfire, can't wait to test the thing.
arrives monday
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I wonder what the real-life / real-world performance differences are between Vertex2 vs Vertex3 in a Sata-III macbook pro?
There's some good deals on Sata-II SSD's, but the specs/benchmarks of Sata-III ssd's are very appealing...
What would someone notice by upgrading to Sata-III ssd..? (from a Vertex2)
There's some good deals on Sata-II SSD's, but the specs/benchmarks of Sata-III ssd's are very appealing...
What would someone notice by upgrading to Sata-III ssd..? (from a Vertex2)
johnnyturbouk
macrumors 68000
I wonder what the real-life / real-world performance differences are between Vertex2 vs Vertex3 in a Sata-III macbook pro?
There's some good deals on Sata-II SSD's, but the specs/benchmarks of Sata-III ssd's are very appealing...
What would someone notice by upgrading to Sata-III ssd..? (from a Vertex2)
i think the progression from a conventional HDD to SSD is a much appreciable jump in performance compared to the jump from sata-2 to sata 3.
I have seen the difference in a CTO MBP 2011 high end with apple SSD going to a vertex 3, and there was a appreciative difference: as one would expect with double the incompressible read/write speeds. In terms of real world difference, besides the fore-mentioned faster transfer speeds in incompressible data, and faster load times of the OS, i failed to see a huge amount of difference in every day usage. However, if you are doing complex rendering and using masses of incompressible data then you would undoubtedly benefit from the performance boost of a sata-3 6gb/s drive.
i've gone for the patriot wildfire, since the multitude of failure rates on the vertex 3, and the poor max iops availability in the UK - also heard many good things of the patriot. I also considered the OWC drive, but the tempation of the 34nm MLC flash NAND, and the prospect of buying from a UK dealer - hence no expensive RMA halfway across the globe justified the initial higher capital.
That's too bad. IMHO, OCZ should just scrap the Vertex 3 and re-label the Max IOPS version to be the Vertex 3.
Real world performance differences:
http://www.hardwareheaven.com/reviews/1143/pg9/crucial-m4-256gb-ssd-c400-review-install-times.html
The Corsair Force 240GB in the review is comparable to the Vertex 2.
Keep in mind though that the Vertex 2 will give you significantly better battery life than Vertex 3.
I had a 120GB Vertex 3 for two months. Worked great. Now I have the 240GB Vertex 3 MaxIOPS which is also working perfectly. Needed more capacity due to bootcamp.
Remember, the Vertex 3 uses 25nm Async flash, while the MaxIOPS uses 34nm sync flash.
Remember, the Vertex 3 uses 25nm Async flash, while the MaxIOPS uses 34nm sync flash.
Haven't read a single reply to this thread, but I bought and installed a Vertex 3 240gb in my MBP when they first came out (3 months ago?). Not a single problem thus far... and this thing screams.
I have the same model V3 240GB, one in my 15" MBP & one in my 17" MBP, both were installed three days after they were released. Both laptops see very heavy use and I'm very pleased. No issues whatsoever. With 8GB of ram in each they are rockets.
Samsung 470 based drive here. Running with Trim hack and never missed a beat. Fast enough at 220mbps benchmarked read speeds.