Vertex 3 Question...

Discussion in 'MacBook Pro' started by Maclver, Feb 27, 2011.

  1. Maclver macrumors 68020

    Maclver

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    I saw the OCZ Vertex 3 on Engadget today and was wondering if this would work in my 2010 uMBP?

    Here is some details of it
    Performance Specifications
    Max Read: 550 MB/s
    Max Write: 525 MB/s
    4KB Random Write (aligned): Up to 60,000 IOPS
    *Achieved on Intel Sandy Bridge platform which is recommended to show full potential of the drive
    Key Features

    SATA III / 6Gbps
    Implements SandForce 2281 Client SSD Processor
    Enhanced BCH ECC capability
    Supports SATA-7 Security Erase
    Efficient Write Amplification Factor of less than 1 (4K database transfer workload)
    Significantly improved performance over previous generation
    Delivers 20% faster IOPS, and 40% faster sequential read/write throughputs

    My only question really is the SATA III / 6Gbps?

    Anyone shed light on this?

    I currently have the Intel X-25M 160GB

    http://www.engadget.com/2011/02/27/oczs-consumer-grade-vertex-3-ssd-gets-benched-sandforce-sf-228/
     
  2. kobyh15 macrumors 6502a

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    Your 2010 MBP only supports SATA II speeds, meaning you would not be able to take full advantage of the Vertex 3. To do that you would have to buy a 2011 MBP, which supports full SATA III speeds. So, unless you are planning on keeping the new drive you buy and putting it in subsequent machines after your current one, which isn't a bad idea if you have the cash to do so, then you will be getting speeds right on par or negligibly better than the older Vertex 2. So, it just kind of depends on what you want to do. If you plan on keeping your drive for a while, then go ahead and get a SATA III capable drive. Just know that you will not be able to get SATA III speeds out of your current MBP. If you want to save some cash, then you could get an older SATA II drive and see the same performance although you won't have the fastest speeds if you choose to upgrade your computer in the future.

    This shows that you really need a SATA III controller to take full advantage of the Vertex 3:
    http://www.anandtech.com/show/4186/ocz-vertex-3-preview-the-first-client-focused-sf2200
     
  3. dnkbro macrumors regular

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    If I'm not mistaken, the 2010 MBP supports 3Gbps SATA and not the 6Gbps Sata III that the OCZ Vertex is being powered by to get those speeds.
     
  4. Maclver thread starter macrumors 68020

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    thanks for the info? So should I just keep the Intel drive? Im not planning on buying the new macbook pro
     
  5. kobyh15 macrumors 6502a

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    I would honestly keep your current drive until you upgrade to a computer that can actually utilize the SATA III drives. The X25-M is no slouch and has been proven to be a reliable drive.
     
  6. Sälli macrumors newbie

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    Here's a Vertex 3 review benchmarking it both on SATA 2 and 3, and it also includes your current X-25M 160:
    http://www.storagereview.com/ocz_vertex_3_review_240gb

    I would just keep the Intel.
     
  7. Maclver thread starter macrumors 68020

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    Im hoping Intel comes out with a newer SSD.. but their website isn't that great and forthcoming about new products.
     
  8. bossmanjunior macrumors member

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    they will quite soon. its the intel 510. its not as fast, but all new drives will utilize SATA III so that doesnt help. you won't need to upgrade your ssd until you upgrade your laptop. the fastest SATA II i believe is the OWC mercury pro.
     
  9. Ferry888 macrumors member

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    I was having the same issue as you. My opinion is that it is better to save some money and go with a good SATA II SSD drive. Since I can't take advantage of it's maximal writing speed, it'll be a waste of money to buy at a premium price for a newer SATA III drive.
    I also have the early 2011 MBP and I won't be upgrading soon, since I plan my notebook purchases with a 3 - 4 years use span.
    By the time I will and be able to upgrade to a newer system, I figure SSD probably will have become the industry standard. If not they will probably have come down in price and have bigger capacity than the current ones or maybe some newer technology replaces SATA III.
    Just my 2 cents...
     
  10. koruki macrumors 6502a

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    to confirm there is no release date is that right? I'm waiting for it to go on sale so I can add it to my 2011 17"
     
  11. altecXP macrumors 65816

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    It depends what you do.

    A SATA 3 drives aren't giving any huge Read speed increase on SATA2, but some sites are saying there are HUGE 4k Write increase.
     
  12. altecXP macrumors 65816

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    Oddly that test says that 4k r/w is faster on SATA2 then SATA3.
     
  13. cmChimera macrumors 68040

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    Why is it so difficult to get a release date for these? I feel like I need an OCZ rumors site.....
     
  14. johnnyturbouk macrumors 68000

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    Lol try this:
    http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/f...rtex2-Agility2-EX-Drives-REVO-and-HSDL-drives


    Ocz vertex will rape any other ssd when it comes out
    From the little I understand from the ocz forums
    the Vertex 3 will have faster seq. write and random 4k
    this will be amplified in certain raid setups
     

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