If the matte display had a black outer bezel/rim, I would have definitely gone for that.
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If the matte display had a black outer bezel/rim, I would have definitely gone for that.
I have been reading all the discussions I could find pertinent, over the last couple weeks... Many different points of view, different ways to go... I am very close to buying a new classic MacBook Pro... This thread just by itself has answered most all my questions... I will be moving from a late 2006 Macbook Pro, and want this new one to last as long... 
And question: I am looking at the 2.3GHz cMBP... Some people posting here and in some other threads are opting for 2.6GHz cMBPs, and even 2.7GHz... What is the everyday use sort of gain in such a choice, against costs, an extra 400 for 2.6, and an extra 650 for 2.7..? I notice the turbo-boost speeds as well, and wonder what that is about, useful in what sort of situations..? I don't want to spend unnecessary money, but I do want a machine that will be keeping up with the next six years, so to speak...
Thanks,
John.
And question: I am looking at the 2.3GHz cMBP... Some people posting here and in some other threads are opting for 2.6GHz cMBPs, and even 2.7GHz... What is the everyday use sort of gain in such a choice, against costs, an extra 400 for 2.6, and an extra 650 for 2.7..? I notice the turbo-boost speeds as well, and wonder what that is about, useful in what sort of situations..? I don't want to spend unnecessary money, but I do want a machine that will be keeping up with the next six years, so to speak...
Thanks,
John.
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I have been reading all the discussions I could find pertinent, over the last couple weeks... Many different points of view, different ways to go... I am very close to buying a new classic MacBook Pro... This thread just by itself has answered most all my questions... I will be moving from a late 2006 Macbook Pro, and want this new one to last as long...
And question: I am looking at the 2.3GHz cMBP... Some people posting here are opting for 2.6GHz cMBPs, and even 2.7GHz... What is the everyday use sort of gain in such a choice, against costs, an extra 400 for 2.6, and an extra 650 for 2.7..? I notice the turbo-boost speeds as well, and wonder what that is about, useful in what sort of situations..? I don't want to spend unnecessary money, but I do want a machine that will be keeping up with the next six years, so to speak...
Thanks,
John.
Many make the jump to 2.6 for the extra 512MB of VRAM.
Hey guys,
I'm in the position to get a new computer for use at home. I work as an editor/animator for a company and work off a 2010 Mac Pro with 24GB of Ram and 8 cores. I've currently got a 2007 imac duo core which has done itself proud over the years and I feel its time to step it up, so I can continue to learn and make my own hobby videos at home.
I would normally go down an iMac line due to screen real estate, usually faster and have greater graphics etc. But I feel I'd enjoy the portability of a laptop at this stage, as even with a slightly lower overall speed, I can compensate by rendering out any heavy AE or C4D projects at work.
Going into the Mac shop tonight for a real close look at both the cMBP and rMBP. So far i'm leaning towards a 2.6, 16GB Ram, 512GB rMBP and for the following reasons:
RAM:
16GB of Ram in my experience is heaps. I totally understand the more the better. AE at work uses all of my 24GB on a big render, but less RAM only means a slightly slower render and shorter RAM previews. SO the battle here on upgradeable RAM being a humungous plus is only true if you have no other source to render from, and only true if you are burning big render in AE or other such programs. There is also the argument that 16GB sticks when they are released will be quite expensive for a good while, and any further purchases after the initial purchase of the cMBP with its mods, is extra money I don't have to spend in regards to the current machine. i.e I can save that cash and put it towards the next computer i'll buy, which will have faster RAM and faster GPU. Which brings me to the next point.
GPU:
Both the cMBP and the rMBP have GPU's that cannot be upgraded. As this is a crucial aspect of computer performance in many applications, 3d, gaming and some compositing programs, both computers are on Par on this one, no matter what the future holds. Personally I see thunderbolt holding some future goodies with external GPU's for hard core tasks.
HDD:
rMBP has a 400MB's read/write SSD. Yes after market SSD's are coming down in price, but you once again after purchasing your immediate mod's to bring the cMBP up to the rMBP's current SSD speed, you will then have to spend more cash in the future if you decide to upgrade the SSD again to an even speedier drive. Drive speeds are not going to increase as drastically now as they have in the past. We are in the age of SSD's, as so increments will be as fast as HDD's once were.
And here I don't understand peoples use of the internal SSD anyway. I would of thought most people are using their internal SSD to run programs and use for very very small projects/store their own personal photos and music etc.
Where as the real tasks of storage for video projects etc will be on an external storage device via thunderbolt or USB 3. Which means once again the computers are on par in this department. For as thunderbolt external drives become quicker and quicker so both computers will benefit equally.
Yes I understand you can put another drive in the optibay, but no one has mentioned the downside to this. More weight/huge increase in battery usage if both drives are being used together. These are rather large negatives in the world of portable computers. If you have to stay plugged in to work, then you may as well have edited off an external high speed thunderbolt drive plugged in. I see little difference there.
So that brings me to the non par areas of the cMBP vs rMBP area:
Retina screen real estate
Eventual all program retina screen crispness
A much thinner and sleeker laptop with no less power
Native HDMI out port
Extra thunderbolt port
So as much as the cMBP has bonuses of upgrades, the upgrades will come at extra cost, and only the RAM is of any very noticeable worthiness, but even then is not that crucial for anyone who has another source to render from/or even a net render/ or anyone who is happy to overnight render.
Anyway so I feel through my research i'm totally swung towards a rMBP for logical reasons. Tonight will be my final physical review to ensure I'm happy staring at this screen and laptop for the next 5 years.
I'm in the position to get a new computer for use at home. I work as an editor/animator for a company and work off a 2010 Mac Pro with 24GB of Ram and 8 cores. I've currently got a 2007 imac duo core which has done itself proud over the years and I feel its time to step it up, so I can continue to learn and make my own hobby videos at home.
I would normally go down an iMac line due to screen real estate, usually faster and have greater graphics etc. But I feel I'd enjoy the portability of a laptop at this stage, as even with a slightly lower overall speed, I can compensate by rendering out any heavy AE or C4D projects at work.
Going into the Mac shop tonight for a real close look at both the cMBP and rMBP. So far i'm leaning towards a 2.6, 16GB Ram, 512GB rMBP and for the following reasons:
RAM:
16GB of Ram in my experience is heaps. I totally understand the more the better. AE at work uses all of my 24GB on a big render, but less RAM only means a slightly slower render and shorter RAM previews. SO the battle here on upgradeable RAM being a humungous plus is only true if you have no other source to render from, and only true if you are burning big render in AE or other such programs. There is also the argument that 16GB sticks when they are released will be quite expensive for a good while, and any further purchases after the initial purchase of the cMBP with its mods, is extra money I don't have to spend in regards to the current machine. i.e I can save that cash and put it towards the next computer i'll buy, which will have faster RAM and faster GPU. Which brings me to the next point.
GPU:
Both the cMBP and the rMBP have GPU's that cannot be upgraded. As this is a crucial aspect of computer performance in many applications, 3d, gaming and some compositing programs, both computers are on Par on this one, no matter what the future holds. Personally I see thunderbolt holding some future goodies with external GPU's for hard core tasks.
HDD:
rMBP has a 400MB's read/write SSD. Yes after market SSD's are coming down in price, but you once again after purchasing your immediate mod's to bring the cMBP up to the rMBP's current SSD speed, you will then have to spend more cash in the future if you decide to upgrade the SSD again to an even speedier drive. Drive speeds are not going to increase as drastically now as they have in the past. We are in the age of SSD's, as so increments will be as fast as HDD's once were.
And here I don't understand peoples use of the internal SSD anyway. I would of thought most people are using their internal SSD to run programs and use for very very small projects/store their own personal photos and music etc.
Where as the real tasks of storage for video projects etc will be on an external storage device via thunderbolt or USB 3. Which means once again the computers are on par in this department. For as thunderbolt external drives become quicker and quicker so both computers will benefit equally.
Yes I understand you can put another drive in the optibay, but no one has mentioned the downside to this. More weight/huge increase in battery usage if both drives are being used together. These are rather large negatives in the world of portable computers. If you have to stay plugged in to work, then you may as well have edited off an external high speed thunderbolt drive plugged in. I see little difference there.
So that brings me to the non par areas of the cMBP vs rMBP area:
Retina screen real estate
Eventual all program retina screen crispness
A much thinner and sleeker laptop with no less power
Native HDMI out port
Extra thunderbolt port
So as much as the cMBP has bonuses of upgrades, the upgrades will come at extra cost, and only the RAM is of any very noticeable worthiness, but even then is not that crucial for anyone who has another source to render from/or even a net render/ or anyone who is happy to overnight render.
Anyway so I feel through my research i'm totally swung towards a rMBP for logical reasons. Tonight will be my final physical review to ensure I'm happy staring at this screen and laptop for the next 5 years.