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I've noticed this myself. There is a thread in existence where people are plain out insulting me, calling me a liar, and stuffing words in my mouth that I've never said (which is verifiable through quotes).
I can't imagine seeing this kind of thing 6 years ago back when this was a good place (before I even signed up for the forums).
Sadly its the norm now.
I can't imagine seeing this kind of thing 6 years ago back when this was a good place (before I even signed up for the forums).
Sadly its the norm now.
read my mind...
told about my experience with jailbreaking and the OP responded with "I think it's bull tho"
what the...
don't see anyone replying like that in real life that's for sure
Yeah - and people that are outright lying (breaching the TOC by joining too young, saying that they apparently got a job offer from apple when they're in 8th grade... ) but they're a contributor, so idk...
Oh internet.
In fairness to you, those who are calling you liars in that thread are off base. However, if you can't roll with the punches you shouldn't have jumped into that particular ring. Your statements didn't align with the body of knowledge or position you claim to be in, and you got called out on it. Shrug.
I know man, it's ridiculous. People that are offended by swear words really don't belong on the internet aha.
Agreed, Sometimes I do that too, especially when hot button topics are being discussed. Luckily the Moderation team does a really good job at what they do. While the forums are heavily moderated, it means that MR is one of the more pleasant forums I am a part of. In addition, they're really good, imo, at discerning "reactive snakiness" versus being openly hostile towards another member without provocation.
My favorite is the mods who put words in your mouth, then timeout you for it.
If you feel you have a specific case of unfair moderation, you can submit a request to have it reviewed by the staff (mods+admins) using the "Contact Us" link.
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I don't mind the "rudeness" at all. I am good at being "cool" about almost anything. I often take the "facts" seriously and ignore the "lies" and "misinformation".
I agree that some people feel they have to throw some snarky remark out there if somebody posts something that they feel is not relevant or has been posted before. What is the harm if somebody didn't search the forum before posting something?
It's mean and uncalled for. A lot of newbies come here to ask questions or talk about their new macs and should be shown respect. When dealing with a group of people whose reading comprehension ability stops at taking individual words out of context then applying personal prejudice to them, somehow I doubt an appeal to logic would result in anything other than being ignored, or possibly more timeout. Thanks for the offer to bark at a brick wall though..
I must admit, not having all the time in the world to trawl through every thread and post here, I sometimes might ask a simple, honest question (not having immediately found what I'm looking for) in a thread and often get really unnecessarily smart remarks. All very childish and arrogant. But, let's face it, we are talking computers and software. Geeks all.
I don't think you understand the system.
We, the staff, are individual volunteers spread out around the world. Our moderation system relies heavily on the participation of the membership. If y'all don't report problems, we can't know one exists. As individuals we often make decisions and take actions on our own that others may disagree with. Being human, we also occasionally make mistakes.
It is only through discussion that we try and interpret the rules and arrive at a common understanding of where "the line" is and set precedent. Ultimately these discussions can lead to changes in the rules.
S&FF is not the forum for this. We have mechanisms in place to review and discuss particular acts of moderation. If you choose not to participate, and simply complain outside the system, you'll never know how effective or not that may turn out to be.
The same goes for folks who receive an unfriendly response to a post. Report it. We will look at it, even though we may not agree with you that any individual post is over the line.
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As a result of my last thread I'm changing my tune as to the rudeness of dare I say the majority of the users here. It makes me wonder whether these people just live sad lives and it's all they know or whether they're just children - they're certainly not mature adults either way.
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If lack of mature adults is a major concern of yours, why are you participating in an online forum on the internet?
Making assumptions, failing to understand what is being read, resorting to insults when you fail to reach understanding. Way to make my point. As if I would defer to a room of people who would just side with each other because of some backward us vs them attitude and a total failure at thinking beyond picking individual words to suit your prejudices. Complete dbag attitude from most of the administration on this site. Pathetic and disgusting. As the title reads, this is one of the most dickish public forums on the internet, and it is the admins who set that tone.
Where do you get that impression from what balamw wrote, especially the last part about resorting to insults???
Like I've said before, this is all a side-effect of the growing Apple market. The Apple community used to be filled with respectful, helpful and proud enthusiasts. Trolls, haters, trouble makers and rude people (in general) used to be primarily relegated to the PC user base. With the iPod and iOS device introductions, many of these non-traditional and new Apple users have entered the community. The iOS devices also bring in the teen and pre-teen demographic who tend to operate under both the “bully” and “entitlement” mentality. That’s how many kids are, by their nature. This is a sad and unfortunate by-product of Apple’s success. I’m not really sure anything can be done about it.
Kids are kids, that's right. But they won't be forever.Antares said:
My personal experience from MacRumors tells me there are some who are more polite than others, but the amount of knowledge in these threads are astonishing. I mean I got here from googling problems during my first mac-related upgrade project and when every search ended up here I figured I might as well join since it's clearly the place to be. So, when the focus is aimed on the subject at hand - this forum really shines, and then I don't really mind the rude sarcasm that's mixed in.