Video Camera?????...

Discussion in 'iPhone' started by PowerFullMac, Jul 8, 2007.

  1. PowerFullMac macrumors 601

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    ...Does the iPhone have one? I havent seen it in the Engadget interface walk through or anything... it should have one if you are paying $499 for it, or is one of those 'the iPhone dosent do simple things' matters like the ringtones and the Bluetooth file transfer?
     
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  3. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Any hope of a Web 2.0 app for the job? Or some kind of hack like on the Motorola V3? (Suppose we will find that out later)
     
  4. The General macrumors 601

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    I don't think you quite understand what "Web 2.0" means.

    A simple firmware update can add video recording capability. I would expect this to be in an update some time soon ... along with MMS messages.
     
  5. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    I understand what Web 2.0 means, and I know that Steve has given Web 2.0 apps access to calling functions etc. so I was wondering if one could have access to the camera and record.

    I suppose its just a race between updates and hacks really, same with the Bluetooth, MMS, ringtones etc.
     
  6. The General macrumors 601

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    No, I really don't think you know what Web 2.0 means. :rolleyes:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_2

    It has nothing to do with hardware integration, and has everything to do with social networking and internet communication.
     
  7. Fearless Leader macrumors 68020

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    right, I don't think you quite got it either, Its a concept or idea of social networking and internet communication. Code that goes into a Web 2.0 site is the same as a Web 1.0 site (I guess thats a term), just what you do with it is different.

    also steve probably had very little to do with the actual work involved with the iphone's creation.

    also those calls to functions are limited to email, calling, contact management, and google maps. (I may have missed one but it would also be small like the others i listed)
     
  8. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Ok, so Apple hurry and add the simple features or the hackers will do it for you. :apple::D
     
  9. The General macrumors 601

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    You don't understand it either. "Web 2.0" isn't a noun. You can't put code "into a Web 2.0." Web 2.0 has nothing to do with "omg my website can make teh video camera work" ... It would be Web 2.0 if it let you record videos and send them to people. But the part about that that would be Web 2.0 is the ability to send it to other people, not the ability to take the videos.

    Macrumors is Web 2.0, youtube is Web 2.0, (sadly) MySpace is Web 2.0, a website that lets you use your camera to make a video is not Web 2.0, it's just sophisticated website.

    Web 2.0 is so wrongly overused.

    Typed on an iPhone.
     
  10. Fearless Leader macrumors 68020

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    wow just realized how badly I just bastardized that word, I mean I do know what the concept is I just left out the word site after each web x.0
     
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    Personally, I think video cameras and still cameras on phones are kind of neat but still largely pointless. If you want to take video, get a real video camera. If you want to take digital pictures, get a DSLR.

    That being said...

    Product pricing is not determined solely by the quantity and type of features there are. The Ferrari 599GTB has four wheels, an engine, a steering wheel, and it drives... and it costs $250,000. But it is a different animal entirely from a Ford Taurus... The engines are not mass produced, a single mold is made for each engine and hand-finished to smooth out all the pieces. The leather is stitched by humans, the chassis is largely assembled by humans and riveted, welded, polished, etc. by a very skilled team of workers with gaps between parts (door/chassis, hood/chassis, etc.) set to millimeter precision.

    The engine parts are crafted as they are to ensure that the vehicle can continuously sustain velocities above 200mph... even the valves take a few hours to lathe and polish... each.

    Granted, the car costs as much as a house but try to find me a $250,000 house that is built with that much attention to quality.

    Now, consider the manufacturing and parts that go into the iPhone... take a look at the casing. Aluminum isn't cheap. Zero draft molding (which results in those super-tight seams between the iPhone's parts) isn't cheap. Multitouch isn't cheap.

    Now, try and find another phone manufactured to the same quality specifications as the iPhone AND featuring the unique multitouch input as well as the OS X User Interface programming/design that makes it the most intuitive phone interface on the market...

    On top of it all, there's brand equity. People don't go shopping for a Ferrari because it's a cheap, fuel-efficient, economical car. People buy a Ferrari because it's a Ferrari... a name that represents a set of performance and quality standards. Likewise, Apple has achieved through the last ten years a status as a respectable manufacturer of quality computing products. Some people want the iPhone because it's an Apple, because it's going to be a device that feels and reacts more solidly than its competitors... and it is exactly that. Apple's reputation above all comes from robust industrial design and an unmatched user experience... The interface alone is worth more than a Treo or Blackberry.

    A product is more than the sum total of its bells and whistles.

    That is why iPhone costs $500-600.
     
  13. David R macrumors 6502

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    The refresh rate of the camera is so low that I don't know if it can actually be used to record video. They'll have to make some firmware improvements before they let you record video.

    And then a good way to get it off the iPhone since you probably don't want to be emailing those files.
     
  14. meagain macrumors 68030

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    I bet at least there's a way for us to put a better camera in there. But yea, you'd think with being so in bed with Google/YouTube, they'd create a device that can make vids.
     
  15. Cleverboy macrumors 65816

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    We're certainly hoping for a fireware update to fix this. Happily, the processor Apple chose to put into the iPhone is capable of video processing. Hopefully we'll see some of that action.

    ~ CB
     
  16. PowerFullMac thread starter macrumors 601

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    Yep, I do agree and even if there was never gonna be a update to do this stuff I would still buy it because of that stuff. I mean, its phone by Apple who make the best computers and MP3 players EVER! And that design and the whole built-in OS X thing is amazing. However, all im saying is it is annoying when a device this advances and well-developed cant do things which other phones have been able to do for years.
     
  17. CD3660 macrumors 68040

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    I'd agree with that even though I rarely, if ever, use such facilities on my current phone.
     
  18. NeilP macrumors newbie

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    Video recording and voice memos are both important features for me. Yes, I know I have a real camcorder and a very small flash based camcorder, but I always have my phone with me and I don't always have a real camcorder. It's like I have a real stereo at home, but I'm still glad that my car came with another stereo built-in.

    Having said all that, I don't think we'll see either feature within the next couple months because Apple has other software issues that are more important to more people. People want an Adobe Flash plug-in for Safari. People want to sync To Do's and Notes. People want cut and paste. There are also a bunch of little interface issues and minor bugs that Apple will want to correct before they start to add the bonus features like motion video recording and voice memos. I bet we'll see these features added in around three to nine months.
     

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