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Its really not, you won't see any applicable difference in real world scenarios.

I was just thinking about this. Not only would I need an AC compatible router, but how am I going to get anywhere near that speed with ISP speeds being the way they are? The only way you would see sustained speeds this fast is transferring files between local network nodes which I see as probably pretty rare in most cases.
 
Erm, my iPhone 5s tops out at 110 mbps... (same router & network - 2013 Airport Extreme, 5GHz Network)

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photos backing up to a synology NAS using the DS photo+ app will not be done faster?

Hope so.
I also have a Synology NAS and I'm using all the apps on my iPad (DS Download, DS Photo, etc.)
 
Those real-world scenarios only work if you're basically on top of the router.

"The router was placed 1.5 metres away..."

lol. 1.5 meters away? That's about 5 feet! Let me tell you the drop off in speed even at 5-10 meters (~15-30 feet) away is pretty extreme.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think most people will see NO benefit from 802.11 AC until we have better antenna systems in small, personal electronics.

Not to mention that most people (particularly those who want to saturate their LANs) will have multiple devices connecting, probably using a few different protocols, and probably not always in the same room as the router.

And many mentioned 'real world scenarios' will probably be limited by the iPhone's processing power, memory, or flash write speed long before anything else. I suspect that many of those claiming to have already seen improvements are seeing them primarily due to gains in processing speed, or just a placebo effect.
 
Not to mention that most people (particularly those who want to saturate their LANs) will have multiple devices connecting, probably using a few different protocols, and probably not always in the same room as the router.

And many mentioned 'real world scenarios' will probably be limited by the iPhone's processing power, memory, or flash write speed long before anything else. I suspect that many of those claiming to have already seen improvements are seeing them primarily due to gains in processing speed, or just a placebo effect.

I have a conjecture that the placebo effect is casued by the "Oooh, Shiny" distraction. :apple:
 
Plex can make use of this. Wifi sync can make use of this, Dropbox over LAN can make use of this, local streaming can make use of this, Airdrop can make use of this, Instashare can make use of this, XBMC can make use of this, iTunes Home can make use of this, OSX server can make use of this (especially the cache) - do you want any more examples where a faster LAN connection is useful?

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See above for about 8 real world scenarios I'm finding improvement with already.

But when the large payloads and throttling, it doesn't matter.
That's the point!

I agree that it will be useful in 2-3 years but not in the immediate future.

You point out real life scenario's but no real live tests.
 
Name a single wide spread consumer facing IPS that wouldn't be the limiting factor.

For this customer, whether crap speeds are industry standard or not is irrelevant if he has no technically comparable alternative due to the monopolistic nature of cable service.

In addition, parity of crap speed and service for any given customer so situated is the direct result of this monopolistic market set-up.
 
I use iTunes Wi-Fi Sync and I access video though iTunes Home Sharing on Wi-fi, so yes this does mater to some folks.
 
I did a similar test when i first got my iPhone 6, even bought the new airport extreme router to get 802.11ac speeds. I was really impressed with it. I think what most people are forgetting is that this is LAN speed not internet speed.

on old airport express - 7.59 Mbps
on new airport extreme - 85.94 Mbps

I can now stream my Plex collection to multiple devices without hiccups. That's a win for me!

For those interested found this app called Speedy Net that did the job, you have to buy the mac version and iOS version though:

http://mauriciosantos.net/speedy-net.html

Thanks for sharing this application. I had been thinking about the usefulness of such app if it existed. I downloaded the Mac and IOS app and these are my results:

Airport Extreme 802.11ac bought a few months back.
iPhone 6: 140Mbps (this is the max, most reads are around 120 to 136Mbps)
MacBook Pro (old model with 802.11n support): 300Mbps
iPhone 5: 85Mbps

Edit: Tonight I am getting speeds of around 245Mbps on the iPhone 6. Don't know why the difference from this morning's speed.

All using the 5GHz band
 
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I was just thinking about this. Not only would I need an AC compatible router, but how am I going to get anywhere near that speed with ISP speeds being the way they are? The only way you would see sustained speeds this fast is transferring files between local network nodes which I see as probably pretty rare in most cases.

Exactly my point.
We are not discussing laptop/desktop computers we are discussing a phone where the largest file transfer 99% of the consumer base is sourced from the internet not LAN devices.
 
oh, that's fast :p

Would be only useful for transferring on the same network anyway...

and since most probably go though their cellular/ISP anyway, it would see a difference.

I don't any any A/C equipment.... I'm cool enough :cool:
 
Those real-world scenarios only work if you're basically on top of the router.

"The router was placed 1.5 metres away..."

lol. 1.5 meters away? That's about 5 feet! Let me tell you the drop off in speed even at 5-10 meters (~15-30 feet) away is pretty extreme.

As I mentioned in an earlier post, I think most people will see NO benefit from 802.11 AC until we have better antenna systems in small, personal electronics.

In their test, but you don't need to be that close, within the same room it works at 260mbps in my tests. It has beam forming too. I have two Extemes which cover enough of my house to get minimum of 235 in every room.
 
But when the large payloads and throttling, it doesn't matter.
That's the point!

I agree that it will be useful in 2-3 years but not in the immediate future.

You point out real life scenario's but no real live tests.

There are real life tests as i've done all the above with vast improvements.

AC is finally brilliant for mobile devices, everything else I connect with gigabit ethernet as wireless isn't good or fast enough.
 
I'm still trying to figure out why I need almost 300Mbps of speed on my iPhone 6...it's nice for bragging rights, but in terms of practicality, my mind is blank...
 
I'm still trying to figure out why I need almost 300Mbps of speed on my iPhone 6...it's nice for bragging rights, but in terms of practicality, my mind is blank...

Not for everyday use, but for streaming video, downloading from the "cloud". Home sharing. there would be some instances where you would like to have it. do you NEED it... no. but then again, do you NEED 80% of the features on ANY smartphone?

And, bragging rights are a HUGE reason to have it. ;)
 
so i bought a new router.
my wired connection is around 75 / 75.
and my wireless is about the 75 / 52

pretty Friggin good
just wish my MBPr was wifi ac
 
Because specs don't matter to Apple or their consumers. :p

Not quite right...specs DO matter...it's the practicality of them that does NOT matter! :p

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Not for everyday use, but for streaming video, downloading from the "cloud". Home sharing. there would be some instances where you would like to have it. do you NEED it... no. but then again, do you NEED 80% of the features on ANY smartphone?

And, bragging rights are a HUGE reason to have it. ;)

I'm still not sold on those reasons (except the bragging rights). Streaming video at the resolution of the iPhone 6 requires nothing near "ac" speeds. Cloud and "home sharing" transfers makes some sense, except for the fact that most cloud services don't transfer anywhere close to "ac" speeds. My Dropbox, OneDrive and iCloud all transfer very slowly, regardless of my network speed, even on my desktop connected to my gigabit LAN. Home sharing? Meh...don't use it and even if I did, I couldn't think of what I would want to transfer on my home network that would require large amounts of bandwidth.

I'm all for having "ac" in my iPhone, but in the end, I don't think people use their iPhone the same as their desktop or laptop.
 
How about the fast internet connections? Like the one my friend has, the 350mb home fiber, even though it's basic price (here in Finland) withouth any campaigns or subsidies is crazy 29,90 euro per month, it really does deliver the full speed. You cannot get that with even 802.11 ac wlan, but you get close on best possible conditions. Only possible with 1000mb LAN. Anyway, I'm happy with my 100mb internet @ home at half the price (14,90 euro per month) and there perfect and with older n devices the connection speed is acceptable for basic internet usage. Actually it would ne cheaper to get a unlimited data 100mb LTE for my phone or 4G router to home like many of my friend and parents have for 10 euro per month, but I like that the fiber is more reliable and gives always good pings for gaming so worth the extra 5 euro. Also works better for downloading lots of torrents.

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and how about universities with their really crazy internet speeds and always crowded wifi, anything better newer tech is a going to be a good thing!!!
 
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