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This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you MR! Was debating on getting the 16GB Mac mini but it may be good enough with just 8GB!

Second thought, might as well get the 16GB for future proofing.

But then what if I don’t actually need it and it’s a waste? Here we go again

I was thinking my next MacBook Pro would be 32GB, but with the results they are getting with 8GB machines, I think I'll go with 16GB and be okay. I agree with the future-proofing, who knows what the OS or apps are going to be using in a few years.

Although $200 more if you're getting a cheaper base model is a bit pricey (especially for a first-generation machine).

I'm waiting for a 16" model to replace my 15" 2015 MB Pro and I'll be upgrading the storage, so after a $2,000-ish base model plus the $200 upgrade to 1TB (or $550 for 2TB) is a no brainer.

I'd prefer to wait for a second-generation, but that's probably 3 years from now, right? I'll have to see how this one keeps running...
 
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Beware, when your M1 Mac is using swap, there is a brief bit of lag and "pop in" when you go back to programs you haven't used in a while. I exchanged for a 16 GB model and that problem disappeared. It's not a huge deal, but I hate when active programs are doing a bunch of swapping.
Excellent point. I made up my mind that I was gonna force myself to live with a base M1 MBA this time around. So if I notice lag, pop in, lots of swap etc.....I'll live with it until the 14" MBP drops, and then I'll know I need 16 GB of RAM.
 
@ All the people bitching about 16gb not being enough RAM for a pro machine
My development and production tools often use over 4 GB per (hyper)thread or core and some typical data files are over 100 GB. 16 GB suffices only for a little testing. Even the 64 GB MacBook Pro suffices for just small test cases, but obviously it handles well beyond 16 GB problems.
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I won’t buy one until all bugs are gone and Intel is finished.
I’d say the transition is pretty damn smooth. Apple’s transitions from Motorola 68k to PowerPC and PowerPC to Intel went very smoothly, but this one is even smoother, because Apple has prepared the software even better and the M1 is so fast that its Intel emulation isn’t a drawback over running natively on Intel hardware. (I believe the fast Intel emulation by Rosetta 2 is aided greatly by the X64 architecture having only half the general purpose CPU registers of ARM64. The M1 can dedicate 16 necessary registers to X64 emulation and still have 16 more registers to manage the emulation.)
 
I’d say the transition is pretty damn smooth. Apple’s transitions from Motorola 68k to PowerPC and PowerPC to Intel went very smoothly, but this one is even smoother, because Apple has prepared the software even better and the M1 is so fast that its Intel emulation isn’t a drawback over running natively on Intel hardware. (I believe the fast Intel emulation by Rosetta 2 is aided greatly by the X64 architecture having only half the general purpose CPU registers of ARM64. The M1 can dedicate 16 necessary registers to X64 emulation and still have 16 more registers to manage the emulation.)
Don't waste your breath. That member is hoping for bad reports of bugs so they can be right. There's been a few here hoping for bad report. They can't stand good news about Apple. The M1's have been rocking and many people here have said great things about them.
 
My development and production tools often use over 4 GB per (hyper)thread or core and some typical data files are over 100 GB. 16 GB suffices only for a little testing. Even the 64 GB MacBook Pro suffices for just small test cases, but obviously it handles well beyond 16 GB problems.
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I think the problem here is really that the 13" imposter MacBook "Pro" exists. Apple should just call it a MacBook.
 
If you are exporting 8k footage regularly, you will likely want to the wait for the 16” MBP refresh, which will likely come with 16gb ram standard, with the option of upgrading to either 32 or maybe even 64gb ram (but will almost assuredly cost a bomb).

This sort of thing is good to know, but for the stuff I do, 8gb ram still more than suffices.
 
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Did you expect groveling at your condescension? Sorry, I'll kiss each of your 4gb rings before speaking next time.

If 64gb RAM is insufficient for your workflow, then you require a workstation-class computer, placing it so far beyond what is applicable to this thread that there is no relevance whatsoever.

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This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you MR! Was debating on getting the 16GB Mac mini but it may be good enough with just 8GB!

Second thought, might as well get the 16GB for future proofing.

But then what if I don’t actually need it and it’s a waste? Here we go again

This is always a no-brainer unless the price for the additional ram is absolutely prohibitive. Even if the performance difference isn't great today, give it 4 years when the OS and apps bloat more. With a 8GB machine at that point (like having a 4GB machine today), the performance might deteriorate so much that you have to replace the computer due to the non-upgradable design. On the other hand, having 16GB might get you fully another 2, or 3 or 4 (or even more) years of useful life. So get the RAM. When I deploy machines in a school environment, whenever possible I include the model that's a single memory upgrade above the base model, and the difference in performance a few years later is always quite apparent. Heck, sometimes you don't even have to wait 4 years; sometimes the performance starts to tank as soon as the next major OS release.
 
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you MR! Was debating on getting the 16GB Mac mini but it may be good enough with just 8GB!

Second thought, might as well get the 16GB for future proofing.

But then what if I don’t actually need it and it’s a waste? Here we go again
feel the same...after watching. chose the 8GB with the 500GB model MBP
 
This is exactly what I was looking for, thank you MR! Was debating on getting the 16GB Mac mini but it may be good enough with just 8GB!

Second thought, might as well get the 16GB for future proofing.

But then what if I don’t actually need it and it’s a waste? Here we go again
Future proofing is rationalized myth created by those who overbought and attempting to assuage their guilt of buying more than what they needed.
 
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@ All the people bitching about 16gb not being enough RAM for a pro machine
Yeah it's impressive what this architecture can do with only 16GB. Still a few use cases where more is needed, but hey that's what higher tier machines are for.

Also...who in their right minds would use a notation format that's "Minutes.Seconds"?! It even managed to mislead MacRumors into posting 13.57 seconds and 5.59 seconds when it should be 13 minutes 57 seconds and 5 minutes 59 seconds.
 
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I think Apple is back to a pre-intel era. Marginal and this time without any benefit of being the underdog. The reverse halo effect. Everything Apple is limiting once again, good luck.
Look everyone, it’s Rahtid from Intel’s Marketing Department.

Hi, Rahtid...will you be handing out swag bags or t-shirts today?!? Also, can you tell me where I can pick up my dinner voucher, thanks? Above your pay grade? Not surprised.
 
my personal concern about 8GB of RAM is not about performance, but about longevity. I expect laptops to last more than 5 years. I still use a laptop from 2013, maxed out its RAM back then, no issues today other than battery life. The performance of the M1 will not be an issue for me, but will 8GB be enough in 2025 with whatever new macOS Apple has? Cue in how even on iOS, Apple keeps bumping the RAM, up to 6GB for the iPhone 12 Pro. That’s for a phone.

And remember the A8 iPhone 6, the chip is fast enough but the RAM becomes its bottleneck.

So personally I’d rather spend the extra money for 16GB of RAM since I would keep the laptop for a long time. For those frequent upgraders, then sure, 8GB will be enough to tide you by for a few years.
 
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