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I'm for one am one of them who've been missing Dashboard dearly. Current side panel widgets aren't even coming close to being an adequate substitute.
BetterTouchTool? You can map a function key to show Notification Centre. That’s easy and fast.

But sounds like you don’t like the NC solution either way.
 
Back in the day we had Kornfabulator which was bought by Yahoo. It mostly got replaced by Apple’s Dashboard. I thought it was better as you could place the widgets directly on the desktop while dashboard required a separate window.
Konfabulator! I loved using Konfabulator back in the day. I thought it was the coolest having the weather, time, and a bunch of other things updating in real time on my desktop.
 
Just out of curiosity, if we have the most used apps in the Dock (which, in my case, disappears until I want it) and the Notification for other things, (which also disappears when not used) of what use would this widget thingy be?
 
So, it's like MacOS Lion, except you have to pay extra. Um, OK.
Yes and no. Notification Center is like Lion in that there is a separate, dedicated area for Widgets; this places them on you active desktop so you can access them while doing other things.

I’m fine with a subscription if it means that new functionality and widgets are being regularly added. If the functionality stays static then I want a one-time price.
 
I've been looking for a Dashboard alternative ever since Apple nixed it all those years ago. Whenever a new alternative pops-up, I'm all ears. (thanks for the video, Dan!)

These are fully interactive, which is key for me.

I'm surprised Dan didn't address the system/energy impact of this app; I wonder how resource-heavy it is. Does that depend on which widgets you're using, etc?

I hate subscription models, but I'm willing to try the free demo and, if it meets my needs, consider subbing for one year. I have very few ongoing subscriptions (VPN, iCloud storage, Spotify), so adding another that's less than a dollar per month, and fills a need want I've had for years, is worth considering for me.

(Note: the moment I sub for anything, I set a reminder on my phone to cancel it three days before the new fee is charged — I can always choose to leave it, or extend it, if I wish. This allows me to try things without fear of forgetting to cancel)

I'm gong to tinker with this and see if I can get it set up the way I'm imagining. If I discover anything noteworthy, I'll report back.

Ok, I've tried it for a few minutes, and have a few notes:​

  • They can be desktop/space specific; as-in if you switch to a new desktop, you can set all-new widgets, or have them all the same.
  • ^ same goes for monitors.
  • You can toggle snap-to-grid off, in case you're the chaotic type.
  • There's a show/hide widgets keybinding, which you can use even with pinned widgets.
    • This allows me to have as close to a Dashboard effect as I've seen so far; working away, hit a keybinding, and the widgets appear on top. The only thing I'm missing is to click away to have them disappear, but maybe that can be added (I'll email the dev).
    • This has an animation I'm not a fan of; I'd prefer they just appear (will email dev).
  • There's an add note keybinding option.
  • Calendar widget is not interactive.
  • I can't see how to change the background colour - only the highlighted text... (can anyone point me to that? I thought Dan said it was possible in the video)

The alternatives I've found over the years: (I'd welcome more suggestions, if you know of any)​

Superlayer is sleek and cool looking, but are not interactive, as far as I've seen. It costs $2/month, $23/year, or $70/life (CAD).

Geektool is not interactive, and is hard to set up if you're not familiar with code. Further, I'm fairly certain it no longer works on macOS without workarounds (please correct me if I'm wrong, as I haven't tried it in a while. Depending on the geeklets (widgets) you use, it can be fairly resource heavy. Oh, and it's free.

Übersicht is not interactive (though I believe the latter can trigger app launches, or scripts), but it's free and easy to use. There's a ton of community generated widgets available — if interactivity isn't important to you, this is likely a good choice.
 
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Aw, remember back in the day when we just had widgets on our desktops natively?..

If you're talking about Dashboard, it was a lot more useful than this because it insantly put an HUD-style display over the desktop where you could actually see everything -- and then just as quickly dismissed the whole layer so you could get back to what you were doing. It was a brilliant piece of UI and it only died because Apple let it languish for years instead of pushing it forward with new functionality. In an Apple Silicon world, Dashboard would've been an excellent place to park selected iOS and iPadOS apps. That was rumored for a long time, but never came to fruition.

As for this app, not sure I understand the utility of putting anything useful on the lowest layer of your desktop where it's going to immediately be covered up with windows.
 
If you're talking about Dashboard, it was a lot more useful than this because it insantly put an HUD-style display over the desktop where you could actually see everything -- and then just as quickly dismissed the whole layer so you could get back to what you were doing. It was a brilliant piece of UI and it only died because Apple let it languish for years instead of pushing it forward with new functionality. In an Apple Silicon world, Dashboard would've been an excellent place to park selected iOS and iPadOS apps. That was rumored for a long time, but never came to fruition.
Notification Center places them in a HUD layer above everything else.
As for this app, not sure I understand the utility of putting anything useful on the lowest layer of your desktop where it's going to immediately be covered up with windows.
1:50 shows widgets floating above an app.
 
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Now, tell us how easy and fast it is for all of us using a mouse ...

I'm for one am one of them who've been missing Dashboard dearly. Current side panel widgets aren't even coming close to being an adequate substitute.
You can make a keyboard shortcut
 
Notification Center places them in a HUD layer above everything else.
True, and that's the one thing it gets right. But that small strip is nowhere near as useful as that entire layer Dashboard had.

1:50 shows widgets floating above an app.
It shows them "pinned" so they stay persistently. It seemed from the video you get two choices: buried on the desktop or hovering over everything.
 
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True, and that's the one thing it gets right. But that small strip is nowhere near as useful as that entire layer Dashboard had.

This. It routinely blows my mind that people equate the tiny stripe that is the notification center with the full desktop Dashboard. And within NC you have to switch tabs, scroll, etc. instead of having everything visible at one glance. Nevermind the plethora of widgets that existed (and were usefull) for Dashboard, that don't for NC. Was I really the only one that used Dashboard heavily for stickies?
 
This. It routinely blows my mind that people equate the tiny stripe that is the notification center with the full desktop Dashboard. And within NC you have to switch tabs, scroll, etc. instead of having everything visible at one glance. Nevermind the plethora of widgets that existed (and were usefull) for Dashboard, that don't for NC. Was I really the only one that used Dashboard heavily for stickies?
I’m not sure how something like that could blow your mind, but I didn’t say that NC was as good as DB, just that its the same kind of floating-layer functionality.
 
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You should consider talking to the devs to see if the kind of functionality you want could be implemented.
Eh. If it truly replicated Dashboard and had something approaching the open architecture it had, I'd be interested. Remember, at one time there were hundreds of third-party widgets you could install in Dashboard and Apple even ran its own directory with links to all of them.
 
If you're talking about Dashboard, it was a lot more useful than this because it insantly put an HUD-style display over the desktop where you could actually see everything -- and then just as quickly dismissed the whole layer so you could get back to what you were doing. It was a brilliant piece of UI and it only died because Apple let it languish for years instead of pushing it forward with new functionality. In an Apple Silicon world, Dashboard would've been an excellent place to park selected iOS and iPadOS apps. That was rumored for a long time, but never came to fruition.

As for this app, not sure I understand the utility of putting anything useful on the lowest layer of your desktop where it's going to immediately be covered up with windows.
Totally agree with the first paragraph! As far as the last sentence — I have one of my hot corners set to 'desktop', it's a very simple gesture.
 
Totally agree with the first paragraph! As far as the last sentence — I have one of my hot corners set to 'desktop', it's a very simple gesture.
I do as well, so I can quickly get to files I keep on the desktop -- but putting widgets down there under everything and then "uncovering" them just seems like a bizarro version of Dashboard.
 
I do as well, so I can quickly get to files I keep on the desktop -- but putting widgets down there under everything and then "uncovering" them just seems like a bizarro version of Dashboard.
Haha, I have a calendar on mine. And I would prefer to drag things like weather and time zones there as opposed to clicking F13 or the time in the upper righthand corner to reveal...
 
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I’m the developer of a similar Widget app called Superlayer so I’ve read your comments with great interest! 😊

In general, as an indie dev it doesn't matter what kind of app you release — the price is always hotly debated in the community. And that’s okay! Be assured that most devs never take pricing lightly. It’s just really difficult to make everyone happy.

A lot of users do not argue at all but just make a purchase silently. So if you’re an indie dev yourself reading this: Don’t get irritated! Subscriptions are almost the only way for bootstrapped indie products to ensure users an actively developed, sustainable product. At the same time there’s a lot of people who just don’t like subscriptions, and that’s okay too.

Regarding the Widget apps in specific, keep in mind that each Widget is basically an app at its own. It is heavily time-consuming and complicated to implement such an app. It took me almost one year to Version 1.0 of Superlayer. I worked on it full time and spent most of my savings to do so. It was the biggest risk I ever took in my indie dev journey. Unfortunately it didn’t worked out well — even at a super low 1,99€ per month subscription and a one-time-purchase option.
I sympathize with the need for a recurring income and thank you for the detailed explanation.

But I have to say I think there may be an issue where sometimes app developers slap a subscription on automatically even if their app may not warrant it. Just in this thread you can see a bunch of people including myself saying they'd buy this app if it was a one-time fee. But due to the subscription they aren't. So the potential annual revenue of a sub model ends up wiping out any revenue at all there.

Keep in mind those people buying it one time may have told others about it also which also could have led to more revenue now and in the future.

There are ways to make continued revenue without a sub model and the constant push of every app having one, is just making people like myself buy less apps.
 
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I bought it and use it. I can cancel at any time if I find myself not using the widgets as much, or if Apple continues to blend macOS and iPadOS/iOS and allows this kind of widget integration on the home screen. I like the look and the available information/function at just a glance.

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Was there some parallel universe I missed, I thought they were always stuck in the dashboard. to do you mean desk accessories?

There was a dev command you could use via Terminal that would allow you to move widgets to the desktop. Once you enabled it in Terminal, you would go into dashboard, hold-click the widget, then exit dashboard and the widget would stay on the desktop.

Widgets were a fun way to customize your workflow and I felt, quite useful. I'm glad I'm not the only one who feels this way.
 
Dashboard was introduced on 10.4 Tiger, like 18 years ago. That was extremely useful because all the most useful items like calculator and weather were ready to pull up and could be stowed away with the press of a function key. Now it's something you have to pay for, and I'm not even sure if you can stow these or if they're permanently on the desktop.
I loved having the sticky-notes widget ready to go if I suddenly took a call. I know there are quick notes for Apple Notes, but it's just not the same.
 
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