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Video iPod with 4 Inch Screen? iTunes Movies?



Heres a dumb little mockup I did - I guess i still see the value in some sort of wifi chip that would allow one to access ITMS from a network. Hear a song somewhere you really like? Have to have it? Okay, then get it.

Plus for films it can have its own swivel mount ala the imac and cinema displays - dunno how it would attach though and still keep the ipod blemish free.
 
Is "Video iPod"...

... Apple's internal product code-name for 'New iPod Sock'?
 
Leather Cases

If the size is correct, then Apple' new $100 dollar cases could be compatible with this ipod. That would also make more sense, if the Ipod is touchscreen then you don't need slots on this case. April 1
 
So we can all agree also that the "iTunes" name would change/split with this? I totally understand Apple's view with simplicity and all but they really need to make something new for Movies/TV shows (iTunes Movie/TV Store? wtf?). Or they could maybe make a new App all together and call it something else (where iTunes and the Movie/TV store can co-exsist).
 
Stridder44 said:
(iTunes Movie/TV Store? wtf?). Or they could maybe make a new App all together and call it something else (where iTunes and the Movie/TV store can co-exsist).
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in the source panel.... Music Store, Movie Store I would hope for that over your suggestions. simplicity simplicity simplicity.
 
mackeeper said:
How's this:

$10 - monthly subscription
$40 - monthly subscription w/ iTheater

iTheater - access to movies that are currently in theater. Positives: this will force movie theaters to do a better job. Since movie pirating has become a problem, here is a legally acceptable solution.

(not including your subscription);
$2 to "rent" the movie (expires in 7-10 days)
$6 to buy the movie (never expires) - forever in your HD, (unless you delete it)

Positives; (no need to explain)

I think this is a fair deal.
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I think that is a great fair deal that the MPAA would be foolish not to accept.
 
berkleeboy210 said:
The new iPod will have built in WiFi, and connect to the net everytime you watch the movie my 2 cents
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A *portal* device that did that would be a laughing stock.

You would have to be in range of internet access. It wouldn't work, such a device would be too limiting.

Think - I'm on a train, with no internet access, and I can't watch a movie on my iPod due to lack of internet.... yea. that would work. not.
 
Stridder44 said:
So we can all agree also that the "iTunes" name would change/split with this? I totally understand Apple's view with simplicity and all but they really need to make something new for Movies/TV shows (iTunes Movie/TV Store? wtf?). Or they could maybe make a new App all together and call it something else (where iTunes and the Movie/TV store can co-exsist).
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Big mistake.

iTunes is a recognised product, Apple would have to build the new brand up. There are plenty of people who wouldn't know that say, iMovie Store, exists, or what it was.

Simplicity, keep the existing brand name.

In any case, iTunes is no longer about music solely, and hasn't been for a while- its about tv shows ( if your in the states), podcasts and Audio books.

Apple shouldn't make a new product, it should be built upon an existing recognised product, iTunes.
 
Name: iTunes Media Store?

Wireless Internet: makes no sense for searching/shopping unless you have a keyboard and much bigger screen. Computers do that job much better. Also makes no sense for DRM enforcement: you aren't always in a place that has public Internet. (In fact, 99.99% of the time I'm not.)
 
arn said:
btw, I also think a subscription model is OK with movies. I think the biggest issue with subscription vs non-subscrip is that when you quit the service, you lose your library. But losing your subscription Movie library is a bit less of a big deal, since I don't mind buying DVD's (bluray, HDDVD) of stuff I really like and want to keep.

arn
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Exactly. I rarely buy movies; usually rent...at McDonalds.(see note)
If there is something I really like, it would make sense to buy a nice copy of it rather than an iPod formatted download

note: McDonalds started a service called RedBox with trial markets in St. Louis and Denver. They just expanded it in Colorado so that each rental machine holds 500 DVDs. The cost is $1/day. Pretty cheap.
 
When this was discussed before I was totally against it because I thought that the supscription service meant that one would be able to "rent" the movie for a particular amount of time. The idea of being able to rent say 3 or 4 movies at a time and keep them for as long as you are paying the subscription fee does appeal to me. They idea for this would be an unsupported claim that most people watching television shows on their video iPod do so on the go. I think that is fairly safe to say, because who is going to sit at home and only watch their iPod? If you are going to want full length movies for a bus/train/car ride, then the supscription service would work.

However, a few things that I would like to be worked out. Number one, they would have to really improve battery life, and full length videos at higher resolutions would really take a toll on the battery. Also if this is a full screen iPod, I would really like it to come with some kind of sleeve to carry it in. I believe the PSP comes with a case (atleast I think it does... someone correct me if I am wrong). This would be nice for the iPod, because imagine a full video iPod with all kinds of scratches and such. We would have to take extra good care of it.

The last idea is expanding the size of the harddrive. I was laying (or lying?) in bed last night pondering about how big these little harddrives could get over time. I also wonder how large we can get flash memory, while still keeping the physical part small. If I was going to carry around movies and TV shows, I am going to want more space on my iPod.
 
ipod0324 said:
If the size is correct, then Apple' new $100 dollar cases could be compatible with this ipod. That would also make more sense, if the Ipod is touchscreen then you don't need slots on this case. April 1
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Yeah...that would make the $100 so much more worth it!
 
I vote for subscription

First Post: my two cents:

Considering the dithered quality of TV shows and videos at ITMS, I wouldn't want to pay "top dollar" (I'm guessing $5-$10 per download for ownership) if the movie video quality is going to be marginal.

I would rather use such a subscription service to screen movies, then go to Amazon and purchase the "keepers" and enjoy the DVD on a plasma screen along with DVD extras.

The subscription model works great for the Movie industry (two sales instead of just one for good movies (a rental sale followed by a DVD sale) and helps me as a consumer from wasting my money on purchasing bad movies. This isn't much different from the movie industry's relationship with rental stores (or the NetFlix model). The upside here for the consumer would enjoy the "instant" gratification of downloading movies when they want them instead of getting metered (like what happens to agressive NetFlix users).

The subscription service (self desctructing downloads) hopefully will screw up the pirates as well, while benefitting the honest consumer.
 
Data Center = Apple Video service?

So do you think the data center that Apple purchased will house the servers that will be necessary to feed us our movies?:)
 
So what do you think the first offerings will be?

My money goes to Disney and Pixar (just like when Apple rolled out TV shows).
Once the major studios see the sales numbers, more mainstream content will quickly follow, just like NBC, and cable programming for ITMS!:)
 
Didn't read all of the posts in the thread, so sorry if this is repetitive.

For once (and most likely, only once) I'm in agreement with the studios on this one. I'm 100 percent behind the music strategy where you buy it and keep it. Subscription makes no sense whatsoever in the world of music.

But movies are a different story. Unlike music, I rent far more movies than I would ever consider buying, no matter how cheap the purchase price is. And, unlike music, which I will listen to over and over again, I'm much more likely to watch a movie only once, and never have much of an inclination or desire to see it again (especially the stuff they put out now-a-days). That doesn't mean that I don't own movies - I do. It's just that the lion's share of my movie viewing dollar goes towards rentals, and there are very few movies that I care to see more than once, and even fewer that I care to own.

It wouldn't matter to me that purchase price would be approximately the same as rental - if such a thing is even being contemplated, which is hard to imagine. It still a lot of storage and time to download the thing, and in the majority of cases I'll have to go to the trouble of erasing it when I'm finished watching it, as I try to keep my hard drive free and clear of junk I don't need. Just steam the damn thing to me, please! Then, if i really want to buy, present an option to do so. Subscription would be all around perfect for this sort of thing.

And all of this depends on one essential requirement: that the content offered is, at a minimum, the same quality as today's DVD. If it isn't, all bets are off. Not interested. No matter how cheap or how fast the download/stream/what-have-you is.
 
I think Apple should charge $20 FOR A LIFE TIME SUBSCRIPTION !!!

And then slowly start to raise the price, everyone ON THE PLANET will jump in and pay EVEN IF THEY DON'T OWN A MAC AND ONLY PLAN TO BY ONE IN THE FUTURE just to get the low price.

The planet is SOO big they could make a fortune for many year working this way.

Beside in a couple of years bandwidth will be irrelevant again and in a couple more it will virtually free, and the business model will change again so they should sell as many subscriptions as they can a soon as they can :eek:
 
Here's an idea...

Have iTunes limit the number of movies that can be stored. With a subscription model, iTunes can only store 3 movies at a time. If you want a new movie, you must first delete the old one. Maybe even have a commission/decommission. The movies stay available as long as the membership stays active. So you could download a movie and keep it on your computer "forever" if you want, as long as you keep paying your monthly fee.
The same thing would apply to the iPod.
Seems like this solution would work.

BTW, could this be what the $100 case is designed for? rather than a click wheel iPod?
 
Subscribe? yes!, but how about ripping?

If Apple follows the subscription model, do you suppose they will make ripping of DVDs as easy as ripping music?:confused:

I would probably still use a video iPod for music ~95% of the time, and watch videos when I have the luxury to sit around and stare at a screen (either at a Pod or playing the movie on the computer), BUT It would be nice to rip in material into the Mac/iPod (commercial or non-commercial movies) to enjoy or review at my convenience.
Danger, here is that Apple would be enabling the pirates, UNLESS when you rip, iTunes creates a self destructing file which wipes itself out after some finite period (n hours or x viewings?).
 
ipod0324 said:
If the size is correct, then Apple' new $100 dollar cases could be compatible with this ipod. That would also make more sense, if the Ipod is touchscreen then you don't need slots on this case. April 1
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Please, it's $99, not $100. You make it sound overpriced.
 
On a hardware note -

I'd like to see some sort of wireless connectivity (Bluetooth and/or Wi-Fi).
(yeah, a Bluetooth keyboard and headset would be nice accessories)

Also, the ability to play Flash, so that Flash/Quicktime integrated content would work on this iPod...

Adobe / Macromedia Flash is being considered on the PSP last time I checked

- Ultimatetone
 
soosy said:
Buy Movies: Yes!
Rent Movies/PPV: Yes!
Subscription Service: Meh.

A ton of people buy DVDs. A ton of people rent DVDs. A much smaller percentage have subscription plans (just my gut feeling, no stats to back up). A subscription plan wouldn't hurt, but keep it simple.
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NetFlix, the most successful movie subscription service, reached 4.2 million subscribers in December 2005.

Here's some more info:

http://moneycentral.msn.com/investor/research/profile.asp?Symbol=nflx

Dick
 
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