Video on Apple TV

Discussion in 'Apple TV and Home Theater' started by antoinemr, Jul 15, 2017.

  1. antoinemr macrumors newbie

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    Hi!

    I just bought an Apple TV and i thought because of the memory inside i could be able to put movies and series i have on my PC on it.
    But i discovered i couldn't connect the ATV to my PC.

    So my question is : How do you watch a video file on your ATV?

    I tried VLC but i have a very bad wifi so it takes too much time to send files.

    I also tried to put the files on my Iphone but there is too much lags with AirPlay.

    What do you think? Do you have a solution or it's simply impossible?

    Thank you in advance.
     
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  3. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    Convert them and import to iTunes, or stream then from your PC using something like Plex.
     
  4. tdhurst macrumors 68040

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    It's streaming only.
    You can use iTunes or Plex for locally stored media, Netflix and the rest of internet based stuff.
     
  5. d21mike macrumors 68040

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    Upgrade your WIFI so you have options. I just added Google Wifi (3x Mesh Routers) to both my sons house and my mother in laws house. They work really well. Or try to run ETHERNET Cables (CAT 6) to multiple locations in your house. The cost of Google Wifi was $267 for the 3 pack on Amazon.

    If your video is not iTunes DRM Protected you have many options on the ATV 4. If iTunes protected then you have to use iTunes or remove the DRM.
     
  6. antoinemr thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks a lot for your answers!

    But if i add my videos to iTunes, they wont be on the hard disk of the Apple TV?

    So the only way to watch a video is by streaming? There is no way to store videos on the hard disk and watch them whenever i want without a pc or a phone or anything?

    Because i have a very bad internet speed connection i cant use streaming so i cant do anything in fact...
     
  7. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    You cannot explicitly copy content to the storage on an Apple TV 4. The only one that allowed iTunes sync was the 2007 original Apple TV.

    Streaming ≠ Internet. You can stream from the iTunes library on a local computer/iDevice, use a third party app like Plex (requires a server application installing on your PC).

    If your wireless signal is bad, then use ethernet.
     
  8. HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 603

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    As described, only the original :apple:TV allowed synching of video content right onto the :apple:TV itself. A big issue with that is that even the largest (hard drive) version that Apple sold could fill up with synched video pretty quickly. Meanwhile, since :apple:TV has a heavy dependency on a computer running iTunes somewhere in the home, pretty much any size hard drives could be connected to that computer (including many hard drives if one wanted enormous storage). Store all your present & future video files on those hard drives and stream them to the newer generation :apple:TVs.

    Done this way, the video does not go out onto the Internet but simply streams internally from computer-connected storage through iTunes to your newer :apple:TV. In other words, if you went outside and cut the broadband wire (so you had no internet connection at all), this internal streaming would work exactly the same way. Streaming can work wirelessly via wifi or via (Ethernet) wire.
     
  9. antoinemr thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thanks again for your answers.

    I'll try the streaming from my pc even if I'm a bit afraid it will lag.

    And I guess it's mandatory to have a pc running in the house? Because I have a laptop so it's not cool to have to turn it on every time I want to watch TV. If I knew that before, I would just have bought an HDMI cable to simply plug my pc to my TV and watch what I want...
    I don't see the interest in the Apple TV if we still need a pc running.

    I bought it because I wanted to separate these two things...
     
  10. MagicBoy macrumors 68040

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    With respect, you obviously didn't do your homework before laying your cash down for an Apple TV. A quick look at the product page starts with video apps, then on to games, Apple music, iCloud Photos and Video and finally AirPlay. It's no secret that Apple have moved iTunes content into the Cloud for streaming, and that's their preferred way of customers accessing it for the last few years.

    So what's my point? It's not mandatory to have a PC running to make Apple TV work.

    I just logged into to iTunes on the Apple TV, and all my purchased content from the last 10+ years appeared for streaming. If I pay for iTunes Match or Apple Music then I get more functionality.

    In your case with existing third party content then a workaround using a third party app like Plex is the best option. Had you asked on the forums or in an Apple store before purchase then you would have been advised to purchase a different device. Apple TV is great for Apple customers already in or moving into the Apple ecosystem.
     
  11. HobeSoundDarryl macrumors 603

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    It is probably the wrong device if you want "to separate those 2 things." It can work pretty well without a PC running but only if the videos you want to watch are sourced from Apple (purchased/rented content). Your first post is ambiguous if your videos are purchased from iTunes/Apple or if they are perhaps videos you've made yourself or DVD/Blu Ray rips, etc. If the latter, you probably do need a computer running iTunes in the house to host & serve them to :apple:TV (unless you go with an app solution that can connect to network storage, but either way, you will need some computer-like hardware running elsewhere in the house on which to store the videos).

    The point of owning an :apple:TV in that scenario is that it makes it very easy for you and others in your household to play those videos. You/they don't have to attach the laptop to the computer each time you want to watch a video. Nor do you have to be interacting with the laptop to watch videos either. :apple:TV works in the classic way (interface with a remote from the couch). If your laptop is a Mac, you also have the easy ability to "airplay" video on your laptop screen to the bigger TV screen wirelessly. If you are NOT single, living alone and that laptop goes out of the home with you, :apple:TV is still back at home to serve others in the household when they want to watch or do something with it.

    :apple:TV still has plenty of capabilities when the laptop is NOT at home. Your own personal videos not purchased from Apple will typically not be accessible but others at home can still buy/rent movies from Apple, Podcasts, Apple Music, run many Apps, etc. I suppose the best way to think about the computer connections links back to your original want- to sync videos onto :apple:TV. While it can't do that (and doesn't have very much storage for many videos anyway), think about the computer dependency as being the storage for up to any sized personal movie connection. That storage is simply OUTSIDE the box, on hard drives you can connect to a computer.

    Since a laptop is a mobile device and assuming the videos you want to be able to easily watch are not purchased from Apple, consider picking up any used/refurb Windows PC or Mac and dedicating it to this purpose (being an always-on iTunes-running computer in your home). Or perhaps you have an old laptop that still works but was retired because the new one is so much faster/better, etc? The iTunes-running computer does not have to be a very powerful computer- just one good enough to run iTunes.

    As to "afraid it will lag", it generally will not unless you have poor wifi inside your home (which has nothing to do with the speed of your Internet connection). If you have this problem, you probably need to upgrade/reposition your wifi hardware. Or, if you can connect a Ethernet cable via home network, that will be plenty fast for these purposes. Remember there is a big difference between Internet connection & speed and home network speed. If there is lag for videos stored on your own laptop, one doesn't even need an internet connection at all to watch those (so lag issues are probably in quality of home network technology or perhaps videos not formatted well for :apple:TV).

    If the above doesn't do the job, there are other :apple:TV-like boxes that are basically big video-storage hard drives in a box. Your TV may even have a USB port to which you can attach a hard drive loaded up with video files to play right through the TV's interface.

    Or, you can adopt other system options via apps that can work with network attached storage for the videos (instead of a dedicated computer running iTunes, you have another piece of hardware- a NAS drive- on which the videos are stored). As mentioned earlier, PLEX is very popular and it can work like this. Instead of a computer running iTunes, some options like PLEX can access a video library stored on a NAS.

    If you are pretty deeply invested in the Apple ecosystem, you'll likely find it easier to dedicate a computer running iTunes instead of using something like PLEX. PLEX is great for what it is but it is not as readily connected to all things Apple, so it may become a matter of using PLEX at times and then hopping into native :apple:TV at other times. While that may seem rudimentary, it is pretty nice being able to get the full :apple:TV experience and all benefits (including Apple DRM-protected access) from within a single UI (vs. hopping app-to-app). If there are others in your home that may not be as tech savvy, it also is typically easier for them to work within a single UI instead of hopping into another app(s) for some video.
     
  12. tdhurst macrumors 68040

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    Return it and buy an HDMI cable for your laptop, then.

    Sorry you didn't research the product before you bought it.
     
  13. mallbritton macrumors 6502a

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    No. The Apple TV 4 just doesn't work that way.
     
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  15. rolsskk macrumors 6502

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    LOL
    I take it you didn't read any of the posts that his frustration lies with not being able to store movies on the AppleTV?
     
  16. sontran23 macrumors newbie

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    I did. That’s his fault for not researching.
     
  17. rolsskk macrumors 6502

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    Agreed, but recommending the same exact thing that he was complaining about isn't going to help.
     
  18. antoinemr thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Hi there!

    I can see a lot of answers, thanks a lot for your help !

    I finally found a solution on my own so i post it here for people that might be looking for the same thing.

    I used the VLC's remote playback solution. You can send video files through your network and store them on the Apple TV.
    If it takes too much time because you have a bad wifi like me, just plug an ethernet cable between your PC and the Apple TV or just the both of them to your router so it's quicker to send.

    And then you can watch your video files whenever you want without any PC running ! :)

    Thanks again for all your answers and sorry if i seemed to be complaining :( i didn't buy the ATV for only that kind of thing so don't worry. I also did researches i was just expecting to find a solution after owning it.

    Bye
     

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