Some people don't like virtual desktops, they'd prefer to have everything displayed without have to switch using "Mission Control"/"Spaces". I used "Spaces" as it was in 10.5/6, then "TotalSpaces" in 10.7/8 as I preferred not using "Mission Control". Even then, I used it to assign app's in different Spaces for improved workflow, not to extend my displays virtually. It's good for limited display real estate, but if you can use actual multiple displays it's much better. Just a matter of work preference.
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Some people don't like virtual desktops, they'd prefer to have everything displayed without have to switch using "Mission Control"/"Spaces". I used "Spaces" as it was in 10.5/6, then "TotalSpaces" in 10.7/8 as I preferred not using "Mission Control". Even then, I used it to assign app's in different Spaces for improved workflow, not to extend my displays virtually. It's good for limited display real estate, but if you can use actual multiple displays it's much better. Just a matter of work preference.
I think it is possible to have both
Why not allow user to switch single screen link it is in latest version.
on top of the have let's say Command-Control-Arrows (left right) to switch all none full screens like it is in Mt. Lion. And Command-Arrows to switch current monitor only?
Why not allow user to switch single screen link it is in latest version.
on top of the have let's say Command-Control-Arrows (left right) to switch all none full screens like it is in Mt. Lion. And Command-Arrows to switch current monitor only?
Did I wrote "suck" ? And yes, I can't wait to use my two monitors in a way they should be used to begin with. Windows 8 has no problems with them, Apple is behind in this context. I suspect Apple will fix those issues as sated in the movie. That's all.
OS X behind Windows 8 in this context?!?!?!?
Are you being serious? OSX and infact any Unix/Linux variant has been able run multiple X desktops for years. It's only the fact that Apple formalised it into OS X Lion that people are consciously aware of it. Windows has forever been a single desktop/workspace environment.
bedifferent said:
Agree. People seem to be confusing Virtual Desktops with maintain a Single Desktop
Some people it seems to need to understand the use of Virtual Desktop and however make the most of there workspace . . .
I had to read your comment a couple of times but I think I get what you're saying.
To make dock popup you have to bring your cursor to the bottom of the screen that you want the dock on, and then try to bring the cursor down more: so dock is activated on the screen you want it.
The problem appears when the secondary screen is set "ABOVE" the mbp screen. The trick in this case doesn't work for me...
If someone has any advice......
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Andrea
Amen to that. Just happy engineering is taking power users/heavy lifters into account for OS X again.
Why in gods name do you assume a failed GPU is the result of using multiple monitors? Components fail some times you know... That conclusion makes little sense.
ho ho hold your horses mate...I wrote that OSX is behind when dealing with multiple monitors -yes- when compared to Windows 8. Quoting: "two monitors in a way they should be used to begin with. Windows 8 has no problems with them, Apple is behind in this context. " in my own experience, I work both with Windows 8 and Mac which has a bootable win 8 partition. Last one is dealing much better with multiple monitors then the current OSX.
But that's just one part of a whole wider story, I dig OSX any time when compared to Windows 8. In short, I consider OSX to be much better then Windows 8 ^^
"It appears that, in OS X Mavericks, users can switch between both the Mountain Lion multiple monitor setup and the new multiple monitor support in Mavericks as needed"
OK..... If Apple gives you the option to change it, whats the issue? Just its not "default" .....
A least its an "option" It could have been wrorse, and not been there at all.
Besides, i can think of blanking all other dsplays out as... "It's focusing on the task at hand" *shrugs*
Seems like a good middle-ground.
OK..... If Apple gives you the option to change it, whats the issue? Just its not "default" .....
A least its an "option" It could have been wrorse, and not been there at all.
Besides, i can think of blanking all other dsplays out as... "It's focusing on the task at hand" *shrugs*
Seems like a good middle-ground.
Oh dear...so sad that you can't have your pretty image spanning all six monitors. Not like it's the end of the world...
I quite like having apps limited to a single window and also love that you can flip spaces on a per monitor basis...it's a win for me.
Also who in the right mind would need 6, yes 6 displays at home!
I quite like having apps limited to a single window and also love that you can flip spaces on a per monitor basis...it's a win for me.
Also who in the right mind would need 6, yes 6 displays at home!
multiple windows of the same app on different screens can be done
1)multiple windows of the same app on different screens can be done:
if you have a software open e.g. say 4 different windows of safari you can actually drag each of them on different screens, the trick is to hold your mouse click as per dragging and move quickly towards any other screen,whilst if do so moving your mouse slowly you will end up locked to the edge of the screen (as shown in your video).
1)multiple windows of the same app on different screens can be done:
if you have a software open e.g. say 4 different windows of safari you can actually drag each of them on different screens, the trick is to hold your mouse click as per dragging and move quickly towards any other screen,whilst if do so moving your mouse slowly you will end up locked to the edge of the screen (as shown in your video).
My God! Someone with intelligence has commented! Reading the first two pages I thought everyone was jumping on the stupid bashing band wagon! If people actually bothered to watch other videos by this guy they may understand why this guy had to use wallpapers rather then his work to illustrate the point, but that's probably above some of the commenters on here?
Have to say the video highlights what I would call some very messy multi monitor handling by Mac OS, if it's on a Pro desktop it needs to be very very adaptable and configurable, or is this yet another example of Apple dropping the Pro market and telling them what they need to do rather then giving them the tools to do their jobs?
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Wow yes apolloa! A ray of hope for humanity.
I just got pointed to this thread and cant believe the hilarity of the comments.
It was a really simple way of demonstrating the lack of ability to utilise multi screen, multiple workflows using spaces in this beta. Obviously not simple enough for a lot of people.
Obviously a wallpaper is not important. Its covered up by dozens of spreads, charts and tickers 99% of the time. But clearly i can't show this information in public.
I put this video out to show people my opinion in the hope it might help someone. Clearly by my investment in Apple i am not any kind of hater, in fact clearly the opposite.
Exactly, I expect 8 people on here actually watched your video. The rest just jumped on a band wagon, but to me I found your video to highlight that new system as being very strange, for an OS that's supposed to support multi monitors for media etc you'd have thought it would be much better with it's configuration. Kinda going backwards if you ask me? But as it's a beta they can change it still.
I know in Windows you used to be able to move screens around and assign which was the centre one etc.
Back in "the ol' days" beta actually meant "feature-complete" instead of "we know, it's bad, but guess what, everything could change..."
No way this limitation will make it to RC. This is completely unacceptable for basically anyone in the video editing or audio editing world that regularly works on projects of significant scale. I can live with one monitor if needed, but it's a deal breaker as far as any motivation to upgrade.
Exactly what I was thinking. Not being able to use another screen for same app pallets is a deal breaker for any creative using more than one monitor, although I can't imagine this is the case in the existing beta (?), or that it will be in the final release.
mrthaibox123 said:
But your opinion is plainly completely misunderstanding the Virtual Desktop environment and what there use is . . .
Mavericks can now operate virtual desktops PER monitor
Lion had a Single virtual desktop across all monitors
Since Mavericks virtual desktops are PER monitor full screening an app won't affect other desktops as the desktop is isolated to THAT monitor.
Lion full screen = 1 monitor but the full screen is just another feature that Apple provide to switch when using 1 monitor. In Lion mode you can drag one App across ALL six monitors which negates the reason for using the full screen mode.
The comments mainly regarding the desktop images is because you constantly refer to it and state you like to have a single image etc etc. If you have other intentions why constantly harp on about the desktop image and give it as the reason why the Maverick interface is "bad". . .
Stating the obvious, but collecting some thoughts:
Fullscreen apps blocking secondary monitors is frustrating, but I don't think fullscreen mode is compatible with some use cases, so I just use windowed mode for apps. With the previous design, apps in fullscreen mode own spaces on all monitors. I think this is a logical decision.
Do you have any fullscreen apps that use two monitors (ie. Aperture)? I would be interested to see how the updated design works with that, as it suggests that Apple has space groupings implemented (and that would be required for what you're requesting).
Also worth noting: you could be missing something, as I did when I started using Mission Control. I recognize that we're both proficient, I'm just submitting that this is the first developer release of 10.9, and the documentation (and implementation) could be incomplete.
PS: Great setup. I would ask which video cards you are using, but I suspect you have another video about that. I'll check out your others.
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I agree with this too. Simply stating that the desktop image was just an example would have made the complaint much clearer, especially considering the setup is far from the norm. An honest omission from the video, but I wouldn't imply that others are stupid for taking your comments at face value.
Having worked for an Apple Reseller years ago, I can say first hand that there are plenty of users that would go to greater lengths because they can't have the desktop image they want.
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If you span multiple monitors all the time, use the previous mode. You can't have independent spaces (the new mode) on multiple monitors and still span. If you could, you would have some monitors display half-windows, which the other half was hidden in inactive spaces. Considering the old mode is an option, they haven't taken anything away.
Actually you are wrong. Reason is the guy made that video for his subscribers, they perfectly understand what he does and why he has six monitors and got what he was saying in the video. Mac Rumors have taken the video and stuck it on the front page, then made some random story about it, I doubt very much they asked the guy to use his video, and so now all you lot are complaining about him when the video was NEVER intended to be posted here in the first place!
If a random You Tube video is posted here it is up to you to go and find out why he cannot show his point with his work AND it's up to the Mac Rumor writers of the article to make that clear. It's like eavesdropping then complaining as you only overheard half the story.
The video was made for his 40 thousand plus subscribers, NOT the Mac Rumors website!
Then again seeing as Mac Rumors stole the story from 9to5Mac who stole the video through DetroitBORG then it's EXACTLY like you lot have listened into half a conversation, or heard a story told by the 50th guy who heard it.
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