Kids who can't read yet expect every display to be a "touch screen." I could be 100% wrong, but as they get older, I think it will become increasingly common for "personal devices" to have an interactive display.
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Video Shows Off Prototype Touchscreen iMac... From 1999
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That, and the fact that this is really old news tells us that this site is run by young hipsters.
Most Windows users do not use their touchscreens with the laptop in the normal position. I’ve even seen Windows laptop users who did not know they have touchscreens! Both the position of the screen and the user interfaces do not lend themselves to be manipulated by touch. So I would say Steve Jobs is right an Apple is right not to put this on their laptops.
iOS doesn’t really relegate all inputs to mouse keyboard when it is attached tho… such as playing games.
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so some rando hacked, put a touch screen on and he bought it. Cool story bro. Someone should hack the first mac mouse and put an optical sensor into it and sell it to the next idiot.
"touch surfaces don't want to be vertical"
That is a misunderstanding of how people use touch on a device like this. In most cases you have multiple input methods and switch between then on a task by task basis. Sometimes touch, sometimes, mouse or trackpad, and sometime keyboard. People already do this with the current Macs switching between trackpad and mouse and keyboard depending on what they are doing. Touch just becomes one more option in that mix.
An added benefit of having multiple input methods reduces your reliance on one method and you don’t get as much repetitive stress from using the same input method non-stop. Less tendency for RSI.
That is a misunderstanding of how people use touch on a device like this. In most cases you have multiple input methods and switch between then on a task by task basis. Sometimes touch, sometimes, mouse or trackpad, and sometime keyboard. People already do this with the current Macs switching between trackpad and mouse and keyboard depending on what they are doing. Touch just becomes one more option in that mix.
An added benefit of having multiple input methods reduces your reliance on one method and you don’t get as much repetitive stress from using the same input method non-stop. Less tendency for RSI.
And I frequently switch between touch and mouse when using an iPad Pro in a keyboard case. Remember, we don’t all use our devices in the same way.
Even cheap windows PC have touch. It doesn’t cost that much.
I still don't get the vertical issue on tablets, on a desktop computer yeah totally, but on a tablet which is much closer not so much and IMO not so much on a laptop either. Ergonomically I'd be more concerned with having to contort my hand/wrist/fingers on a trackpad all day long. While we are at it, who are these people who are fully extending their arms when using a touchscreen on a tablet/laptop? Color me conspiracy but I think this still has everything to do with Apple convincing consumers they need multiple devices.
Personally I'm more of a mixed use person on my Surface Pro, sometimes I'll use touch if it makes sense, other times I'll use the keyboard or trackpad. But there are times when touch only makes more sense, particularly when I take the keyboard off and the tablet is much closer to me than a laptop. I also have a LG Gram 16 2-in-1 that gets a lot of touch use, again folding the keyboard underneath means I can have the screen closer.
Personally I'm more of a mixed use person on my Surface Pro, sometimes I'll use touch if it makes sense, other times I'll use the keyboard or trackpad. But there are times when touch only makes more sense, particularly when I take the keyboard off and the tablet is much closer to me than a laptop. I also have a LG Gram 16 2-in-1 that gets a lot of touch use, again folding the keyboard underneath means I can have the screen closer.
Thank you, this is what I've been saying, although there are times when touch only is superior. If you can fold the keyboard away from a 2-in-1 device, or snap it off like a Surface Pro, having the screen closer is much more conducive to touch screen use. As someone who treats RSI injuries on a regular basis I also fully agree there is a much higher tendency for RSI injuries using a trackpad all day long.
This is probably the only argument which makes sense, but as you point out you can routinely find very cheap laptops with touchscreens.
I enjoyed the video as I had a Blueberry iMac G3 350, with the slot load drive and OS 9.
My primary device is a tablet. Held in one hand, vertically.
The grocery stores use touch displays all day long.
I seem to recall HP had an AIO with touch that, for lack of a better term, reclined.
The iMac had a 15 inch screen. The new iMac would be harder to make touch friendly.
I am interested in a 2 in 1 Chromebook, which would probably get the most use in tent mode.
In all modes but clamshell, it is a touch computer, right?
EDIT: I hold my tablet at about 45°. Never flat.
My primary device is a tablet. Held in one hand, vertically.
The grocery stores use touch displays all day long.
I seem to recall HP had an AIO with touch that, for lack of a better term, reclined.
The iMac had a 15 inch screen. The new iMac would be harder to make touch friendly.
I am interested in a 2 in 1 Chromebook, which would probably get the most use in tent mode.
In all modes but clamshell, it is a touch computer, right?
EDIT: I hold my tablet at about 45°. Never flat.
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Apple should release a Mac tablet. iPadOS (as iOS) is a limited jailed-sandboxed toy without an accesible file system among other shocking limitations.
Touch games are atrocious for the most part. I can’t wait to see people try RE4 on their iPhones and tell me it’s a good experience.
It would make much more sense to run a version MacOS on an iPad then dock it when you wanted to use it like a desktop/ laptop. I’d buy it.
While yes, the primary demographic of those games dont care. They just download the game on their shiny iPhone 15 Pro Max and play on that tinny tiny 6.9” display with everything crammed, and best of all, they will likely tell you that’s a good experience.
If I had kids I'd have em read 100 pages of a paper book before they can use any device.
- Encyclopedia from book A-Z
- biographies of business founders, leaders, sports stars and other notable persons
- investing, money management, personal finance and financial literacy
I'd also limit their device use to an actual computer for them to learn how to code so they can make apps and other programs rather than play games all day and debate on triple A gaming all day.
I thought back then, there was some company (perhaps a few) that offer a commercial screen overlay hardware product that provided a mouse input to the computer.
The fact Apple was working on their own is interesting but it is not such a giant innovation leap.
The fact Apple was working on their own is interesting but it is not such a giant innovation leap.
Well, it’s interesting that Apple has or had a value added resell program that targets or targeted novel markets that Apple didn’t want to address. I knew about stuff like the Axiotron ModBook or about a touchscreen mod for the clamshell iBook, but I didn’t know that stuff quite like this existed.