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G'day,

In 2005 I began a film/tv degree at Griffith University in Brisbane, AU. Best time of my life; wish it had lead to something rather than returning to a life in finance - but I digress.

I vividly remember a guest lecturer in my Media Audiences class, who had just started making content for YouTube, stating very matter-of-factly that the future of television was going to be "streaming". Essentially at that point in time television was consumed in 1 of 3 methods:

Free-to-Air; a limited number of commercial networks screening fixed content via radio-waves, which the viewer paid for by being interupted every 5-10 minutes with paid advertisements, or

Cable tv; many different channels of themed "ad free"* content delivered over higher bandwidth cable connections, for a subscription fee, or

Recorded content; stuff you loved so much you recorded it yourself, or paid for a professional copy; this was the only way to actually choose a time to watch anything, as well as being able to pause / rewind what you were watching.^

* "inverted commas" because in reality cable channels still included some kind of advertisements, because the content they showed were typically originally created for commercial television, and thus required bolstering to reach the 1/2 or full hour time slots...
^ I know - some people had - TIVO?? But at least in Australia, pausing "live tv" was never really a thing


Having grown up in the 80's and 90's within these above very fixed formats of televisual delivery, even though I was on the edge of technology with high bandwidth internet and a very capable computer when listening to this lecturer in 2005, I couldn't fathom the picture she was trying to paint - the demise of television as I knew it - in favour of this very personalised, choose what you want to watch when you want to watch it, non-shared delivery of video.

At that point in time network television was making the change from analogue to digital. Despite us Aussies loving our tech, digital-tv take-up was treading a very slow path. I even wrote on essay on this topic during my time at uni, because it fascinated me that people were dragging their heels at moving toward the much improved experience that digital-tv offered over analogue. This very fact alone played heavily on my mind with regard to the lecturer's belief that "tv" was dying, and streaming was the future. If the average person wouldn't spend $99 on a DSTB (digital set top box), why would they spend $60/month on an internet connection capable of streaming video - assuming they actually had a computer that could handle the content to begin with?

(In fact - in 2005 only 60% of Australian households were even connected to the internet, and the majority of those would have been dial-up speeds incapable of streaming video. Personally I've used cable internet almost exclusively since 2005, which in most cases is the best option in Australia, except for a very few who have optical fibre to the home even now in 2021.)

In 2006, although it's gone now, I created my own YouTube channel. I became a broadcaster. (Even had a video reach a whopping 242k hits - woot!) But - even as a broadcaster - I didn't see YouTube as a replacement for television. Most content ran for a couple of minutes, was low-quality both in production and resolution, and from my own experience - if the duration was too high, people wouldn't sit through it. An 8 minute video would be lucky to get viewers to tune in for half of that length. The attention span of YouTubers was not great. (And, it's not just that my content was boring - I've heard "professional" tubers making this same comment.)

Eventually, due to the shut-down of the analogue broadcast system in Australia, people did move along to digital tv. They had no choice. But, 15 years after YouTube arrived, network and cable tv still exist. So, my lecturer was wrong, right?

Four years ago my mum gave me a BluRay player that wasn't working any more. Turned out it just had a dust-bunny the size of a twinky inside - but - as well as being a BluRay player, it also had an ethernet port, and the Netflix app. That was the real reason I grabbed it when she said it was going in the bin. That was the beginning of the end of old school television in my house. Over the past four years, I could count on 1 and a half hands the amount of times we have flicked back to "free to air" (as network tv has been rebranded here). And if Netflix is getting boring, Plex has become the new VCR/DVD player, allowing us to watch the hundreds of DVDs that I've digitised.

And that's just one streaming service. Here in Oz, there's several "big" players, and more smaller options in the streaming wars. Over in the States, I imagine it's similar, and the same around the world: streaming tv shows, whether they are pre-loved "old world" content, or made-for-streaming shows that don't have to follow the standard 1/2 hr / full hour time frames, are becoming the dominant way in which people now watch television. It's far more common around the water cooler at work to be asking what you're currently binging in Netflix, instead of whether you caught last night's Seinfeld or Friends.

At least - that's the case for most people under the age of, oh, let's say 60? Just like when we converted to digital tv, there are those who are resisting the move away from broadcast television. My parents are amongst those people. One day the time will doubtless come when the decision will be forced upon them, and others like them, but despite the changes being seen around the world, they probably have another decade or so before that point arrives.

But, what about YouTube?

For the past few months in particular, I have found myself "tuning in" to a few channels in particular. "Tested", "Veritasium", and now "Vsauce3". These channels all offer content typically longer than just a few minutes, and all of quite reasonable production quality and content. And, that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what you can find.

YouTube continues to face the problem that finding the content that appeals to you is far from easy. Their algorithms are notorious at changing without explanation and logic, making content disappear below the icy depths. Ads, both banners and full on stop the video and get a face full of paid content, are plentiful - which when coming from Netflix, is really annoying. Whilst you can pay to get rid of the ads, it's as expensive as Netflix, but would only get 1/10th the viewing in my household - so it's not worthwhile.

Narratively I've run this into a brick wall, but I'll come back and write a better conclusion using the edit button!

My point is - all those years ago my lecturer was in fact correct. My kids - and most of their generation - do not understand, and get frustrated when we visit their grandparents and are suddenly faced with a television that does NOT show what they WANT to see, WHEN they want to see it. "But I want Dragon Rider, daddy!"

Television is dead. Long live Television.

Cheers

cosmic

WordCount: 1242. Like I said... I really enjoyed university... Just feel the need to write essays now and then... 😇
 
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G'day,

In 2005 I began a film/tv degree at Griffith University in Brisbane, AU. Best time of my life; wish it had lead to something rather than returning to a life in finance - but I digress.

I vividly remember a guest lecturer in my Media Audiences class, who had just started making content for YouTube, stating very matter-of-factly that the future of television was going to be "streaming". Essentially at that point in time television was consumed in 1 of 3 methods:

Free-to-Air; a limited number of commercial networks screening fixed content via radio-waves, which the viewer paid for by being interupted every 5-10 minutes with paid advertisements, or

Cable tv; many different channels of themed "ad free"* content delivered over higher bandwidth cable connections, for a subscription fee, or

Recorded content; stuff you loved so much you recorded it yourself, or paid for a professional copy; this was the only way to actually choose a time to watch anything, as well as being able to pause / rewind what you were watching.^

* "inverted commas" because in reality cable channels still included some kind of advertisements, because the content they showed were typically originally created for commercial television, and thus required bolstering to reach the 1/2 or full hour time slots...
^ I know - some people had - TIVO?? But at least in Australia, pausing "live tv" was never really a thing


Having grown up in the 80's and 90's within these above very fixed formats of televisual delivery, even though I was on the edge of technology with high bandwidth internet and a very capable computer when listening to this lecturer in 2005, I couldn't fathom the picture she was trying to paint - the demise of television as I knew it - in favour of this very personalised, choose what you want to watch when you want to watch it, non-shared delivery of video.

At that point in time network television was making the change from analogue to digital. Despite us Aussies loving our tech, digital-tv take-up was treading a very slow path. I even wrote on essay on this topic during my time at uni, because it fascinated me that people were dragging their heels at moving toward the much improved experience that digital-tv offered over analogue. This very fact alone played heavily on my mind with regard to the lecturer's belief that "tv" was dying, and streaming was the future. If the average person wouldn't spend $99 on a DSTB (digital set top box), why would they spend $60/month on an internet connection capable of streaming video - assuming they actually had a computer that could handle the content to begin with?

(In fact - in 2005 only 60% of Australian households were even connected to the internet, and the majority of those would have been dial-up speeds incapable of streaming video. Personally I've used cable internet almost exclusively since 2005, which in most cases is the best option in Australia, except for a very few who have optical fibre to the home even now in 2021.)

In 2006, although it's gone now, I created my own YouTube channel. I became a broadcaster. (Even had a video reach a whopping 242k hits - woot!) But - even as a broadcaster - I didn't see YouTube as a replacement for television. Most content ran for a couple of minutes, was low-quality both in production and resolution, and from my own experience - if the duration was too high, people wouldn't sit through it. An 8 minute video would be lucky to get viewers to tune in for half of that length. The attention span of YouTubers was not great. (And, it's not just that my content was boring - I've heard "professional" tubers making this same comment.)

Eventually, due to the shut-down of the analogue broadcast system in Australia, people did move along to digital tv. They had no choice. But, 15 years after YouTube arrived, network and cable tv still exist. So, my lecturer was wrong, right?

Four years ago my mum gave me a BluRay player that wasn't working any more. Turned out it just had a dust-bunny the size of a twinky inside - but - as well as being a BluRay player, it also had an ethernet port, and the Netflix app. That was the real reason I grabbed it when she said it was going in the bin. That was the beginning of the end of old school television in my house. Over the past four years, I could count on 1 and a half hands the amount of times we have flicked back to "free to air" (as network tv has been rebranded here). And if Netflix is getting boring, Plex has become the new VCR/DVD player, allowing us to watch the hundreds of DVDs that I've digitised.

And that's just one streaming service. Here in Oz, there's several "big" players, and more smaller options in the streaming wars. Over in the States, I imagine it's similar, and the same around the world: streaming tv shows, whether they are pre-loved "old world" content, or made-for-streaming shows that don't have to follow the standard 1/2 hr / full hour time frames, are becoming the dominant way in which people now watch television. It's far more common around the water cooler at work to be asking what you're currently binging in Netflix, instead of whether you caught last night's Seinfeld or Friends.

At least - that's the case for most people under the age of, oh, let's say 60? Just like when we converted to digital tv, there are those who are resisting the move away from broadcast television. My parents are amongst those people. One day the time will doubtless come when the decision will be forced upon them, and others like them, but despite the changes being seen around the world, they probably have another decade or so before that point arrives.

But, what about YouTube?

For the past few months in particular, I have found myself "tuning in" to a few channels in particular. "Tested", "Veritasium", and now "Vsauce3". These channels all offer content typically longer than just a few minutes, and all of quite reasonable production quality and content. And, that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what you can find.

YouTube continues to face the problem that finding the content that appeals to you is far from easy. Their algorithms are notorious at changing without explanation and logic, making content disappear below the icy depths. Ads, both banners and full on stop the video and get a face full of paid content, are plentiful - which when coming from Netflix, is really annoying. Whilst you can pay to get rid of the ads, it's as expensive as Netflix, but would only get 1/10th the viewing in my household - so it's not worthwhile.

Narratively I've run this into a brick wall, but I'll come back and write a better conclusion using the edit button!

My point is - all those years ago my lecturer was in fact correct. My kids - and most of their generation - do not understand, and get frustrated when we visit their grandparents and are suddenly faced with a television that does NOT show what they WANT to see, WHEN they want to see it. "But I want Dragon Rider, daddy!"

Television is dead. Long live Television.

Cheers

cosmic
I would say my consumption is
70% paid subscription (Now TV)
25% Free to air TV.
5% YouTube.
The first two I watch on a TV. YouTube is usually on my Mac when doing something else. I rarely watch anything on my iPhone.
 
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For myself, I don't care for streaming. There's a few reasons for that.

One, I'm Gen-X - the latchkey generation. When you're the only one home for hours, the TV is on for company.

Two, my main consumption of TV is background noise. It's the same type of thing as someone who always has to have the radio on. If something catches my eye, I pay attention. Otherwise…it's my tie to the outside world. Stuff is happening. Note that I watch a lot of local news shows, especially the Saturday/Sunday morning local news shows.

Three, streaming requires me to make a choice. That means I have to be in the mood to actually make a choice, be in the mood to actually watch the stuff I chose and continue to be in the mood to actually sit there and continue watching it. If none of these line up, I'm not there. Broadcast television has a program. You get what you get. If I am in the mood to watch something, I tune in. If I want background noise (like 90% of the time) I put on "How It's Made", or something similar.

My wife is similar, but she only turns the TV on when it's something she actually wants to watch. Don't take away her MSNBC/CNBC shows or TCM! She does however watch YT incessantly as she has certain content channels and producers she follows.

My kids…do their own thing. They've never been interested in TV.
 
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Lately, a lot of my TV consumption has been sports, either through NHL.TV. Sharks games, or the NFL, things on Disney + or HBO Max, or Pluto TV (like old game shows). I used to watch quite a bit of CNBC, but that has changed recently and I've found a lot of Stock news sources through Youtube.
 
To the OP: @cosmichobo: What about public service broadcasting? One that comes with a licence fee?

I'd add that your list.

Personally, - but, like @eyoungren, I'm old school - I rarely watch TV, (except for news, current affairs and documentaries).

My news, I can obtain online, and while therre are certain TV shows I have watched in the past, none are so compelling as to need a TV.

For, the world you have described means an increasingly atomised, and segmented, audience.

Precisely because TV viewing is increasingly atomised, segmented, broken up, it removes the "collective" sense, the sense that everyone you knew watched this programme; that means that TV as a bonding exercise, or social glue, is less likely.

And, paradoxically, it also means that the numbers who choose not to have a TV at all - or engage with that medium, or other media - are likely to increase in numbers.
 
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Thanks for the replies :)

@Apple fanboy
It would be interesting now to see a breakdown of both sources of viewing (ie Netflix / YouTube / traditional, etc) and method (ie tv set, PC, mobile device). Whilst I started watching tv on my TAM in 1998, using a computer in such a way would not have become nearly as common in the broader community until very recently I expect. And video on a mobile device surely wasn't happening until the era of the video iPod? (Sure, there were hand-held TVs like the Sony Watchman, but - where they actually practical in the real world, and were they common? I never knew anyone with such a device as a kid...)

@eyoungren
Interesting. My wife is one of the "needs noise" people. She'll have the tv on as background, whilst watching something on her phone. Drives me nuts lol.

I have to admit that, being the heavily tv/visual media based person I am, when I hear people say that they don't watch tv, I recoil in horror and go for my cruxifix. ;) Of course, conversely, I can see how obsessive I can be...

@sjsharksfan12
News and sports are two of the things that my dad has flagged against streaming services. He asked what news he would get on Netflix, and whether they show the AFL/etc - to which the answer is nil. As such, he has zero interest in converting. My mother on the other hand... she loves a good crime show, and I am sure would quite easily adapt to streaming, but even now at 73 still puts others ahead of herself, so it's a mentality issue - if dad has no need for streaming, what interest is it of hers? (Yep...)

@Scepticalscribe
Ah yes! You've raised the issue that I only touched on with the Seinfeld / water cooler comment. Television was a shared event. Here in Australia, millions of people mourned the death of popular soap character Molly Jones back in 1985 - something that still resonates decades later with anyone who saw it. Cheers' finale captured 40% of Americans. The new era of "television" will never achieve this kind of fete - the true shared experience - because we will all be doing our own thing, on our own terms. The question is no longer - "Did you see last night's Stranger Things?" - it has become - "Have you binged season 3 of Stranger Things yet?"

This brings a whole new dimension to "spoilers!" - once upon a time if you missed an episode of your favourite tv show, you needed your friends to tell you what happened. Eventually you may have been able to record it for later viewing - and not want to be told what happened (works for sports, too). But now, with the demise of the communal shared experience, spoilers are everywhere, for something you may not even know existed yet - but could watch at your leisure later.

On your first point - above I have lumped public broadcasting in with the commercial. Very unfair. The classifications should really just be radio-wave tv versus cable tv. Ultimately, public broadcast is consumed in the same manner as commercial tv - it's still a set program of shows just like commercial tv, that you have to either randomly find something of interest or check the program guide to find what you want; although the paid ads are replaced with ads for other public content.

(I don't know about in the USA... but here in Australia, when cable tv first arrived in my town in 1996 (!), the "ads" were only to make you aware of what other shows existed on the cable tv's channels. The ideology of course was - you are paying a subscription fee to get access to x amount of channels (and usually choosing specific bundles of themed content fitting your specific interests - Sports, Sci Fi, etc etc). But, by the early 2000's, cable tv over here were also showing normal "paid" advertising as well. Problematically, they would be a national advertisement, because the cable network/s weren't bothered to localise the content. As such, the subscription fee began to feel inflated, given that you were still sitting through ads.)
 
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News and sports are two of the things that my dad has flagged against streaming services. He asked what news he would get on Netflix, and whether they show the AFL/etc - to which the answer is nil. As such, he has zero interest in converting. My mother on the other hand... she loves a good crime show, and I am sure would quite easily adapt to streaming, but even now at 73 still puts others ahead of herself, so it's a mentality issue - if dad has no need for streaming, what interest is it of hers? (Yep...)

I think the reason I don't call what I did cord cutting is because cutting cable wasn't really cord cutting. I still subscribe to Youtube TV, which is basically cable via the Internet. I just didn't want a cable box and the fees that come with it when I bought an Apple TV and use that just fine. It's still cable, but it's a lot more convenient.
 
YouTube is an interesting outlier for me. I watch it a lot on my Mac, sometimes alongside doing other work, sometimes simply to watch. I also will queue something up to watch on YouTube via my iPhone if I'm out and about with some time on my hands, or maybe while I do the dishes.

Although we have YouTube on the XBox (which is how we access Netflix and Plex on the main tv), it's very rarely accessed in that format. We don't have a keyboard for the XBox, and given that you predominantly need to type in some search words to find content on YouTube, doing this via a game controller is a pain in the ass...

For now, YouTube is for the more intimate screens rather than communal ones - until I specifically want to show the kids something, in which case I'll endure the task on the XBox.
 
I would say my consumption is
70% paid subscription (Now TV)
25% Free to air TV.
5% YouTube.
The first two I watch on a TV. YouTube is usually on my Mac when doing something else. I rarely watch anything on my iPhone.
I am about:
85% "TV" Streaming (Netflix, Disney+, HBO Max mostly... and UFC FightPass)
15% youtube

Free to air TV is almost entirely dead at my house, and cable is fully gone.
 
in the US many of the local TV stations are being re cycled to make room for 5G cell service. I wonder how long 5G will last?
Most every flat screen TV has a built in RF tuner still. The tuner is probably contained in a single ASIC but go figure some is still watching broadcast TV.
There are a few good shows per month but after watching those nothing to continue my interest in streaming. Go back to reading my romance novel. We might drop the service.
good bet there is an outlet for streaming sport content.

I do not think much of the city where i live has acess to 1Gb internet. 4K 60hz seems to be the new base model for any new flat screen. Streaming 4K 60hz video might be an issue. Viewers may not want to pay the difference. May not be able to see the difference.

I saw? a 8k screen at Sams Club and it was afordable avaliable. there are no sources of 8K content?
there is a fan less ITX form factor windows or linux pc: INTEL NUC 11 PRO Tiger Canyon and had a proposed release date = nov 2020 but havent seen anyting on the shelves. I am sure the design is out there but the boat from asia is slow today. Its a rough time to buy.
https://simplynuc.com or B&H ?= $1600
 
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G'day,

In 2005 I began a film/tv degree at Griffith University in Brisbane, AU. Best time of my life; wish it had lead to something rather than returning to a life in finance - but I digress.

I vividly remember a guest lecturer in my Media Audiences class, who had just started making content for YouTube, stating very matter-of-factly that the future of television was going to be "streaming". Essentially at that point in time television was consumed in 1 of 3 methods:

Free-to-Air; a limited number of commercial networks screening fixed content via radio-waves, which the viewer paid for by being interupted every 5-10 minutes with paid advertisements, or

Cable tv; many different channels of themed "ad free"* content delivered over higher bandwidth cable connections, for a subscription fee, or

Recorded content; stuff you loved so much you recorded it yourself, or paid for a professional copy; this was the only way to actually choose a time to watch anything, as well as being able to pause / rewind what you were watching.^

* "inverted commas" because in reality cable channels still included some kind of advertisements, because the content they showed were typically originally created for commercial television, and thus required bolstering to reach the 1/2 or full hour time slots...
^ I know - some people had - TIVO?? But at least in Australia, pausing "live tv" was never really a thing


Having grown up in the 80's and 90's within these above very fixed formats of televisual delivery, even though I was on the edge of technology with high bandwidth internet and a very capable computer when listening to this lecturer in 2005, I couldn't fathom the picture she was trying to paint - the demise of television as I knew it - in favour of this very personalised, choose what you want to watch when you want to watch it, non-shared delivery of video.

At that point in time network television was making the change from analogue to digital. Despite us Aussies loving our tech, digital-tv take-up was treading a very slow path. I even wrote on essay on this topic during my time at uni, because it fascinated me that people were dragging their heels at moving toward the much improved experience that digital-tv offered over analogue. This very fact alone played heavily on my mind with regard to the lecturer's belief that "tv" was dying, and streaming was the future. If the average person wouldn't spend $99 on a DSTB (digital set top box), why would they spend $60/month on an internet connection capable of streaming video - assuming they actually had a computer that could handle the content to begin with?

(In fact - in 2005 only 60% of Australian households were even connected to the internet, and the majority of those would have been dial-up speeds incapable of streaming video. Personally I've used cable internet almost exclusively since 2005, which in most cases is the best option in Australia, except for a very few who have optical fibre to the home even now in 2021.)

In 2006, although it's gone now, I created my own YouTube channel. I became a broadcaster. (Even had a video reach a whopping 242k hits - woot!) But - even as a broadcaster - I didn't see YouTube as a replacement for television. Most content ran for a couple of minutes, was low-quality both in production and resolution, and from my own experience - if the duration was too high, people wouldn't sit through it. An 8 minute video would be lucky to get viewers to tune in for half of that length. The attention span of YouTubers was not great. (And, it's not just that my content was boring - I've heard "professional" tubers making this same comment.)

Eventually, due to the shut-down of the analogue broadcast system in Australia, people did move along to digital tv. They had no choice. But, 15 years after YouTube arrived, network and cable tv still exist. So, my lecturer was wrong, right?

Four years ago my mum gave me a BluRay player that wasn't working any more. Turned out it just had a dust-bunny the size of a twinky inside - but - as well as being a BluRay player, it also had an ethernet port, and the Netflix app. That was the real reason I grabbed it when she said it was going in the bin. That was the beginning of the end of old school television in my house. Over the past four years, I could count on 1 and a half hands the amount of times we have flicked back to "free to air" (as network tv has been rebranded here). And if Netflix is getting boring, Plex has become the new VCR/DVD player, allowing us to watch the hundreds of DVDs that I've digitised.

And that's just one streaming service. Here in Oz, there's several "big" players, and more smaller options in the streaming wars. Over in the States, I imagine it's similar, and the same around the world: streaming tv shows, whether they are pre-loved "old world" content, or made-for-streaming shows that don't have to follow the standard 1/2 hr / full hour time frames, are becoming the dominant way in which people now watch television. It's far more common around the water cooler at work to be asking what you're currently binging in Netflix, instead of whether you caught last night's Seinfeld or Friends.

At least - that's the case for most people under the age of, oh, let's say 60? Just like when we converted to digital tv, there are those who are resisting the move away from broadcast television. My parents are amongst those people. One day the time will doubtless come when the decision will be forced upon them, and others like them, but despite the changes being seen around the world, they probably have another decade or so before that point arrives.

But, what about YouTube?

For the past few months in particular, I have found myself "tuning in" to a few channels in particular. "Tested", "Veritasium", and now "Vsauce3". These channels all offer content typically longer than just a few minutes, and all of quite reasonable production quality and content. And, that's just the tip of the iceberg in terms of what you can find.

YouTube continues to face the problem that finding the content that appeals to you is far from easy. Their algorithms are notorious at changing without explanation and logic, making content disappear below the icy depths. Ads, both banners and full on stop the video and get a face full of paid content, are plentiful - which when coming from Netflix, is really annoying. Whilst you can pay to get rid of the ads, it's as expensive as Netflix, but would only get 1/10th the viewing in my household - so it's not worthwhile.

Narratively I've run this into a brick wall, but I'll come back and write a better conclusion using the edit button!

My point is - all those years ago my lecturer was in fact correct. My kids - and most of their generation - do not understand, and get frustrated when we visit their grandparents and are suddenly faced with a television that does NOT show what they WANT to see, WHEN they want to see it. "But I want Dragon Rider, daddy!"

Television is dead. Long live Television.

Cheers

cosmic

WordCount: 1242. Like I said... I really enjoyed university... Just feel the need to write essays now and then... 😇
I would not describe TV as dead, but it has certainly morphed in nature, in the US, no longer a monopoly of 3 broadcast systems. This kind of centralization was bound to fragment. And I don’t think that digital vs analog made that much difference other than assist in streaming, helping it along.

Mostly I miss the 30 episode seasons. Today there is much less time to story telling commitment, everything is more like a mini-series used to be.

Some shows are still released on a schedule for example HBO or Disney+ so if a million people are watching, at that moment, I don’t see it as that much different from my childhood when everyone gathered around their TVs on Sunday night to watch Bonanza while acknowledging this by far is now the exception, than the rule, and on the home front, it does mean less communal viewing within the family unit.

And although the concept of free broadcast TV with commercials has taken a huge hit, I can still remember my indignity of having to pay for cable in California, circa 1980 when it was like $15 a month, but even I could see the advantage of not limiting myself to what I could pick up by antenna.

Plus I am spoiled. Today, I can’t abide by commercials as they throughly destroy the continuity of story telling and I prefer streaming, really enjoy not being locked into a day and a time to watch a show or miss it.

The 1980s was also a time when recorders came along offering the first hint of convenience. When we lived on Guam 82-85 and I was deployed away from Guam as a USN pilot, it was my wife’s duty to record Dallas (TV show soap opera) every Friday night when I was away. :)

And today I prefer being able to watch 2 shows in a row of a series, maybe even 3 or 4 if something really grabs me. The only real difference is for most cases as a Nation we are not sitting in front of our TVs at the exact same moment, but we are still consuming the same content and talking about it in forums like these.
 
TV the hardware is not dead. Adding the capability to accept broadcast signals to a visual monitor is so cheap.

Broadcast tv as a business model and advertisement choice is not anymore the only medium.
Broadcast tv must be supported by governments because it’s free. So i think broadcast tv will not be dead.
 
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People will watch TV still... Its probably more meshing it all together. 90% would go to digital, while the reaming 10% would like the old analog/nostalgic days.

I fit in somewhere in that, and if you think that is only for the older gen, think again... I'm only 42

Anything, even government supported is not really that special,,, if its supported, it can also be taken away. also if governments backing, then usually that's some evidence behind it. its theirs their decision ultimately anyway.

No one can honestly see a future where everything is digital and no more TV at all because i can.. it'll just take longer, as usually any slow moving process, you wnt a easy transition.. no matter how long it takes.. but t'll happen.
 
... (In fact - in 2005 only 60% of Australian households were even connected to the internet, and the majority of those would have been dial-up speeds...
connectivity in the US is not good and about 60%


back about ~2005 i had a TV tuner on a usb2 stick that I could plug an antenna into.
technology has moved on but didnt drag all the peeps with it.
 
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YouTube continues to face the problem that finding the content that appeals to you is far from easy. Their algorithms are notorious at changing without explanation and logic, making content disappear below the icy depths. Ads, both banners and full on stop the video and get a face full of paid content, are plentiful - which when coming from Netflix, is really annoying. Whilst you can pay to get rid of the ads, it's as expensive as Netflix, but would only get 1/10th the viewing in my household - so it's not worthwhile.
The problem here is that you're talking about YouTube comparing it to a television network or a streaming service. While YouTube can be used as such, that is not its optimal use case.
YouTube needs to be treated the same way you'd treat a library: you go there to find specific information, or information on specific subjects. And as soon as you find it or as soon as the time allotted for the research is done, you leave.
 
the covid has slowed development of new video content.

I've been reading junk romance novels; no one gets hurt, crushed to death etc. Plus at the last chapter everyone lives bigger better++.
 
Well, Netflix is my go-to streaming service. Disney+ (but only one month at a time) is for specific series or films (SW and MCU), and currently only Mandalorian (which I have seen) or Wandavision (waiting on it) attract me. Wakanim is another service from France specializing in anime from Japan including lesser-known titles.

Youtube is something I consume daily though as @yaxomoxay says it is more like a library.

Only free broadcast is something like Dr. Who.
 
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