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raquel2010

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Oct 20, 2010
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I just got a MAC in August because I was told they are "virus free"... but now I have a virus on my computer and I don't know what to do. I think it is related to my yahoo account. Sometimes the screen will get black and it will say "Movies - Front Row ... " and some other options. Then it will get normal again. When I send emails to multiple contacts, a lot of wierd symbols appear under the email addresses. I use an unsecured network in the building. This is also worrying me. Can other people see what I am doing? Could they have access or have installed a virus in my computer? I already installed the CLAMX, it got two viruses, but this "movie" thing keeps appearing and the email contacts is still the same. I'm worried about buying an anti virus online because of this problem.

Please help!

Thank you!
 

GGJstudios

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May 16, 2008
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I just got a MAC in August because I was told they are "virus free"... but now I have a virus on my computer and I don't know what to do.
There ARE no viruses that run on current Mac OS X, so no, you don't have a virus. Read this: Mac Virus/Malware Info
Sometimes the screen will get black and it will say "Movies - Front Row ... " and some other options. Then it will get normal again.
That's most likely because you have accidentally launched Front Row, which is an app that comes with your Mac. You may have done this by pressing Command+Esc
When I send emails to multiple contacts, a lot of wierd symbols appear under the email addresses.
What application are you using to send email? Mail.app? Safari?
I use an unsecured network in the building. This is also worrying me. Can other people see what I am doing?
Extremely unlikely, unless you've expressly given them access to your system. If you don't know how to do this, then you probably haven't.
Could they have access or have installed a virus in my computer?
They can't install a virus because none exist. They also can't install apps without your admin password.
I already installed the CLAMX, it got two viruses,
If ClamXAV found a virus, it's a Windows virus and won't run on your Mac.
I'm worried about buying an anti virus online because of this problem.
You don't need AV software on your Mac. You just need to understand what's happening.
 

raquel2010

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Oct 20, 2010
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Thanks for all your help. I'm happy to hear that the "Front Row" thing isn't a virus - I really don't know much about macs!

I'm using Yahoo Mail - I've changed my password, but the symbols that appear when I send an email do worry me. About three weeks ago I had a bunch of empty emails sent to my email, I tried deleting htme, but they wouldn't delete. Then all of a sudden the were gone and these symbols started appearing when I send email messages.

I downloaded the Open Office , Skype, a thing called "Perian" which I already deleted (I thought I needed it to watch this movie).

Thanks for your help - I was really getting desperate.
 

GGJstudios

macrumors Westmere
May 16, 2008
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Thanks for all your help. I'm happy to hear that the "Front Row" thing isn't a virus - I really don't know much about macs!
Welcome to Mac ownership! Helpful Information for Any Mac User
I'm using Yahoo Mail - I've changed my password, but the symbols that appear when I send an email do worry me. About three weeks ago I had a bunch of empty emails sent to my email, I tried deleting htme, but they wouldn't delete. Then all of a sudden the were gone and these symbols started appearing when I send email messages.
Make sure your email password is complex, with numbers and letters. What browser were you using? Safari? Firefox?
I downloaded the Open Office , Skype, a thing called "Perian" which I already deleted (I thought I needed it to watch this movie)
All of those apps are quite safe. For the most part, the only apps you need to worry about are those that are pirated copies or apps or plug-ins that are typically suggested to watch videos on porn sites. If you're not pirating software or visiting less-than-reputable sites, you're pretty safe. Read the link I posted for lists of recommended software, which are safe to use.

Enjoy your Mac!
 

raquel2010

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Oct 20, 2010
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Thanks again! I'll do the reading! I am definitely only going to reputable sites!! So I guess I don't have to worry! I am using the Safari browser. Is this the best option?

Thanks
 

munkery

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Dec 18, 2006
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Sometimes the screen will get black and it will say "Movies - Front Row ... " and some other options. Then it will get normal again.

Pair your remote or disable IR receiver (if you do not have a remote) as it may be another person's remote that is launching FrontRow. This can be done in System Preferences -> Security -> General.

I use an unsecured network in the building. This is also worrying me. Can other people see what I am doing?

Using an unsecured network is risky. Specifically, other users can capture all traffic that is not encrypted (SSL). They cannot see what you are doing that only occurs within your system but they have access to all traffic that travels through the network (between your computer and the router) that is not encrypted.

This means that all of your browsing activity can be observed and your emails can be read if your email provider does not use full session encryption. Gmail uses full session encryption but I do not think that hotmail does yet. Bank websites usually have full session encryption.

Software, such as Ettercap, allows them to tag along with you from site to site by showing the web pages you visit in their web browser. A packet sniffer will capture your IM chats and emails in plain text if those services are not encrypted.

Nothing has to be installed on your system for a MITM attack to work. It is all done on the attackers system. Your system gets tricked into thinking that the attackers computer is the router and then after the attacker's computer logs the traffic it sends the traffic to the router.

There are even methods to trick other users into thinking that they are using encryption when they are not. All of this can be done without your authorization and without you even knowing about it unless you know specifically how to detect such activities.

All of these attacks are very easy to do. They all can be done using GUI based software. No operating systems have built in defences to these kinds of ARP poisoning attacks.

I would never use an unsecured network because you have no idea who else is connected to it. I would connect to a secured network that I do not administrate if I know the network administrator and felt they made good decisions about who they allow connect to the network.

If I do connect to large public networks, such as a coffee shop or university, I run a program called Mocha because it will give me an alert in the lower left corner of my display when someone is attempting to poison the ARP table to perform MITM attacks.

Could they have access or have installed a virus in my computer?

They would need your admin password to install a virus. Perian is safe; you do not need to worry about installing it. It is a codec pack that lets you use a lot more media formats.
 

Kahnyl

macrumors 68000
Feb 2, 2009
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Some of the responses here are quite extreme.

Also, the symbols under email addresses are most likely a system prompt of some sort. I can't think of what they could be specifically. Might be address book related.
 

raquel2010

macrumors newbie
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Oct 20, 2010
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Do you know how to solve this problem? I noticed that on some sites I also see some wierd characters instead of letters (especially if I got o a site that I have an email subscription)
 
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