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Maybe Apple has decided to treat the AVP in a way something like they treat the AirPods Max and their displays, and some of their other products too: keep making them as somewhat niche products, but mostly freeze the design for a few years, with only a few relatively minor upgrades during that time, and then one day release a significantly upgraded version. These products aren't like smartphones, with a mostly yearly update cycle due to competition.
 
I think they are changing course. Metal 4 now has modern DLSS like features and the A19pro has "neural accelerator" cores on the GPU. And Remedy the producers of the game "Control" recently announced that they are brining that game to iPhone and iPad. It's obvious that Apple has realized that it needs to compete in gaming in order to keep their "services" revenue strong.
I agree. For a company that prides itself on being different and revolutionary...Apple is EXTREMELY stuck in it's ways, for mostly just bad, not good and bad.

A challenge for them in my opinion is that they've challenged so many "truths" in the tech industry, they believe their own truths are infallible. And they've become rather stale. Still makes amazing products, but they are no longer very creative. Case in point, the vision pro isn't very "creative"..it's a copy product with no new use cases. The iPod wasn't a new idea either, but the use case was.
 
It will now become a $3,499 paper weight because Apple will stop developing the OS for it which means as Apple OS move's forward in other devices, the Vison Pro will be left behind with owners complaining of compatibility problems when trying to use devices that have new OS in them and new apps in them.
 
It will now become a $3,499 paper weight because Apple will stop developing the OS for it which means as Apple OS move's forward in other devices, the Vison Pro will be left behind with owners complaining of compatibility problems when trying to use devices that have new OS in them and new apps in them.

Seeing as the same software will be used for the smart glasses it’s unlikely they will stop developing the OS
 
It will now become a $3,499 paper weight because Apple will stop developing the OS for it which means as Apple OS move's forward in other devices, the Vison Pro will be left behind with owners complaining of compatibility problems when trying to use devices that have new OS in them and new apps in them.
So Apple will stop immersive experiences that they’re shooting right now? Oh and the immersive sports they’re lining up? Oh! And the teams that are working on the next vision update. What about the ps vr controller support? Guess they did that little partnership knowing they were gonna pull the plug too?

All evidence would lead people to believe Apple isn’t abandoning this product, but another “Apple is doomed” article is enough for the haters to come out and claim it’s done for based on…rumors. Unsubstantiated rumors. Fun stuff
 
A very good lesson for Apple and they better price their foldable properly, otherwise it would remain lacklustre product decorating the showcases of Apple Stores. Already they are pushing the envolupe with iPhone prices. TC is luck that he is able to price iPhones like crazy ones due to its legacy built by SJ who made the product far more affordable than what it is today. Other products which went straight up with pricier tags always fall short in the Apple product portfolio. You can’t drop a $3500-$4500 bomb and expect it to sell like hot cakes and your R&D and business investment would never materialise even after many years of wait.
 
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As has been stated since the device dropped: dev hardware.

This will eventually be some glasses. But you can't develop a software ecosystem for the consumer device in advance of launch without something to run it on.
 
This is always the problem with Apple it seems.

Anyone reasonably objective and immersed in any of these spaces would have told them flat out, if you're going to do VR you have either:

A. Go all in on partnerships and content and especially gaming

or

B. Make sure it can somehow work with Windows gaming & maybe even with console gaming .. but especially plug into as much content as possible.

The only thing driving any meaningful numbers in VR is gaming.
Has always been true, and continues to be true.

(it's not really even that meaningful, but I'm operating from an assumption of their desire to do VR at all)
Another way of future proofing the Vision Pro, would be allow tethering to an iphone. 📱😎

This would make the purchase easier to justify as it would basically also serve as a display. If software development for it stops, then I know that I can continue using it and it wouldn't become $3k space junk.
 
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Another way of future proofing the Vision Pro, would be allow tethering to an iphone.
Not at 3,500 dollars, it would have to be 50% or more cheaper. I do think tethering to the iPhone could go either way, make it more popular or damn the product even further. I do think Apple is pivoting to smart glasses and that iPhone tethering will probably be happening.
 
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So Apple will stop immersive experiences that they’re shooting right now? Oh and the immersive sports they’re lining up? Oh! And the teams that are working on the next vision update. What about the ps vr controller support? Guess they did that little partnership knowing they were gonna pull the plug too?

All evidence would lead people to believe Apple isn’t abandoning this product, but another “Apple is doomed” article is enough for the haters to come out and claim it’s done for based on…rumors. Unsubstantiated rumors. Fun stuff
Apple will be doing what they are doing now because they will be stuck due to current agreements but you just watch in the next year or so, Apple will not be doing all this stuff.
 
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Apple will be doing what they are doing now because they will be stuck due to current agreements but you just watch in the next year or so, Apple will not be doing all this stuff.

Exactly right.

The writing is very much on the wall. I'm amazed at the pretzel shapes folks are contorting themselves into in hopes of what's pretty obvious ... "not being true".

If you're on the fence with your AVP hardware at all, I'd try to hawk it while you can.

Old and eventually abandoned VR gear has as much value as a trash bag full of kitchen waste.
 
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Companies run by billionaires believe $3.5 k (really $4k with tax) is a reasonable price. So out of touch with reality. (I don’t know if that is a pun, and I don’t know if it was intended 😹).
 
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Not at 3,500 dollars, it would have to be 50% or more cheaper. I do think tethering to the iPhone could go either way, make it more popular or damn the product even further. I do think Apple is pivoting to smart glasses and that iPhone tethering will probably be happening.
As a token gesture, I think apple should enable airplay from iPhone to the apple vision pro.

After all it's a display that can be used with a mac and the iPhone can already airplay to a range of devices.
 
I love to say I told you so (still want one though)
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Sorry, I was talking about Apple Maps. For Vision Pro, I think it will just take time to get it to the place where both Apple and consumers want it to be.
Ahh, I see.

I think the issue is that If this rumor is true, Apple is pivoting away from AVP. As it stands today, the AVP needs significant changes in design, function, and most importantly price to be remotely considered by consumers.

As it stands now, its just a toy for those have the spare discretionary income.
 
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