Vista security claim challenged

Discussion in 'macOS' started by flopticalcube, Jan 31, 2007.

  1. flopticalcube macrumors G4


    Sep 7, 2006
    In the velcro closure of America's Hat

    The article does NOT mention OSX. Some sloppy research there and they could have found a more informed "expert".
  2. Chaszmyr macrumors 601


    Aug 9, 2002
    I don't think we have any reason to believe that OSX is any more secure than Vista, especially at this early stage.
  3. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    fine line between usability and security, thats right, OSX isn't in the position of figure out that find line yet. wait until u get 20% market share, thats when u need to worry about security problems.
  4. erikamsterdam macrumors regular


    Apr 21, 2006
    That is not entirely true. OS X will always have way less legacy code in it compared to Vista because it is not backward compatible with old OS 9 code. Vista still has DOS/Win95 crap in it that is filled with holes.
    Apple made a very smart move to start all over again with OS X.
  5. clevin macrumors G3


    Aug 6, 2006
    i sure agree with u, but before the reality comes, all u said is only suggestion and guessing, before hacker really pay attention to it, nobody knows how safe it is.

    safer? probably, but how much? 20% safer isn't good enough.
  6. MisterMe macrumors G4


    Jul 17, 2002
    That old discredited marketshare argument again:rolleyes: But, where did you get that 20% figure? Don't bother. The smell gives it away.
  7. semaja2 macrumors 6502a

    Dec 12, 2005
    security... intresting word...

    windows is most likely more prone to a hacker breaking in rather then just making malware, however think about this...

    Say someone hacked a adium mirror (or any other big app) and included one line in the code that simply wiped your homedrive? or maybe it installs a daemon that opens adverts every 10 seconds? they are all possibly withOUT the use of the admin key

    Let see about limewire.. someone decides to have fun and adds the line into the installer to wipe everything from your system, since limewire already asks for the admin key you would never know what hit you.
  8. patrick0brien macrumors 68040


    Oct 24, 2002
    The West Loop
    There's a big difference between being attacked, and being breached.

    Install base (not market share) only affects attacks.

    BTW let's not forget MoAB, these guys are actively trying to find critical bugs, and have only found obscure ones.
  9. dpaanlka macrumors 601


    Nov 16, 2004
    Surely some Apple hater out there in the past 7 years would have tried to create a real working Mac security breach by now.
  10. SMM macrumors 65816


    Sep 22, 2006
    Tiger Mountain - WA State
    nope - not correct. you have overstated your point. security and market share is not a proven fact - merely supposition.
  11. iW00t macrumors 68040


    Nov 7, 2006
    Defenders of Apple Guild
    I wouldn't worry.

    Until you can freaking get exploits where rendering malformed HTML in your email client can install a rootkit in your OS, any system is better than Windows.
  12. barnaby macrumors member

    Oct 4, 2006
    1. If you have more users, releasing patches is more expensive.
    2. If you have more exposure, there is more interest to break your system.
    3. If you have more exposure, subtler flaws are more likely to be discovered.

    I agree with these three premises. I certainly don't agree that Apple isn't in a position to worry about balancing security and usability. That is patently absurd.

    Apple's website ranked 11 for number of visits last year. It runs on Apache 1.3.33 (Darwin). Should they not be worried about the security of the machine that runs their webserver? Or should they make it hard to use for the rest of us?

    Maybe you should tell Amazon that they don't need to worry about the security of their inhouse developed servers because they are the only one that use them.

    Perhaps you mean only security of end users? But if you're trying to defend Microsoft, they had a much larger market share when the majority of their end users logged in regularly with superuser privilleges available to every program.

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