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Why didn’t you list those features that distinguish Fusion Player from Fusuon Pro? Because 99% of people who virtualize on MacOS don’t even know what those features mean or do.
Fusion Player is there to hurt Parallels by being free. This is the mega corporation that is trying to kill the little guy buy dumping their product on the consumer for free. That should actually be illegal. VMware makes almost no money on selling Fusion. 99.9% of their revenue comes from other products. That’s why they can give Fusion Player away for free.
To be fair, VirtualBox is also free.

IMO, you get what you pay for. And Parallels has worked great for me.
 
To be fair, VirtualBox is also free.

IMO, you get what you pay for. And Parallels has worked great for me.
Virtual Box is also developed by a huge corporaion that derives no revenue from developing it but yet pays its developers a very good salary.
 
Which puts me right back where we started...

I'm just used to the convenience of being able to spin up a VM on my intel MBP which I won't be able to with Apple Silicon. I have an old Lenovo laptop when I get to Apple Silicon but will really miss the occasional ability to run Windows apps.
Then buy a new Intel Mac while we still have them, and use the time to wait for the platforms to catch up.
 
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Then buy a new Intel Mac while we still have them, and use the time to wait for the platforms to catch up.
This will make it a real dilemma when the M2/M1X 16"MBP comes out. I use a Windows VM for a select few tasks based on some legacy software and I also MS Project a few times per year. It is nothing critical, but it beats schlepping across the house to fire up my old Windows laptop.
erm.… I already have an Intel Mac. I’d just like to take advantage of Apple Silicon.

If you read my original post was just commenting on the lack of support for Windows not looking for solutions.
 
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Which puts me right back where we started...

I'm just used to the convenience of being able to spin up a VM on my intel MBP which I won't be able to with Apple Silicon. I have an old Lenovo laptop when I get to Apple Silicon but will really miss the occasional ability to run Windows apps.
Why won’t you be able to do it with Apple Silicon? I’ve been doing just that with Apple Silicon for 9 months now. Windows and Linux work great as VMs on Apple Silicon. In fact, they work much better than they do on Intel architecture running as VMs.
 
Why won’t you be able to do it with Apple Silicon? I’ve been doing just that with Apple Silicon for 9 months now. Windows and Linux work great as VMs on Apple Silicon. In fact, they work much better than they do on Intel architecture running as VMs.
Although I would agree that Windows 10 & 11 along with Ubuntu and a handful of other Linux OS’s have been running exceptionally well for me, I’m still bummed my folder of older OS’s like WinXP and Win2000 won’t work.
 
It's odd that VMWare is leaving money on the table when it comes to x86 emulation on Apple Silicon, yeah? They are apparently content to let Parallels have all that money since v17 can run x86 on M1. I guess the market must not be big enough ($$$) for their troubles?
What x86 emulation is Parallels v17 doing? Be specific. (hint... they aren't).

From Parallels' own web site:

On Apple M1 chip-powered Mac computers you can install Windows 10 on ARM Insider Preview by watching the following video or by following the instructions in this article.

Windows ARM is doing the emulation. Not Parallels. Now, VMWare has said that they are not supporting Windows ARM on the preview they have in beta, but it's still not the same thing.
 
Although I would agree that Windows 10 & 11 along with Ubuntu and a handful of other Linux OS’s have been running exceptionally well for me, I’m still bummed my folder of older OS’s like WinXP and Win2000 won’t work.
You can run x86 VMs on the M1 Mac with this application:
 
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You can run x86 VMs on the M1 Mac with this application:
I’ve tried it but didn’t have much luck. That was many months ago, though. I’ll have to look into it again.
 
I’ve tried it but didn’t have much luck. That was many months ago, though. I’ll have to look into it again.
It works better than it did before. Networking is much better, but speed and bugs are still a problem. It's almost usable.

I just tried again this weekend and I can't activate a Windows 7 instance, but speed is batter than Win10, and Win10, while works, is painful slow. An M1 MBA is not the machine to run it on though, it starts throttling almost immediately and stays running hot the whole time you have a VM going. You might still lose the cursor sometimes too. :(
 
It works better than it did before. Networking is much better, but speed and bugs are still a problem. It's almost usable.

I just tried again this weekend and I can't activate a Windows 7 instance, but speed is batter than Win10, and Win10, while works, is painful slow. An M1 MBA is not the machine to run it on though, it starts throttling almost immediately and stays running hot the whole time you have a VM going. You might still lose the cursor sometimes too. :(
running x86 VMs I think is the job for the upcoming pro macbooks I think
 
And this is why I am hanging on to my 2019 MacBook Pro 16 with Bootcamp and Windows 10. I can run a EGPU with a 3080 TI card, I can run Steam games on Windows 10, I can use a Quest 2 VR headset with a link cable. I have 32gb of ram internal and have 4TB of internal and 4TB external with a Thunderbolt 3 SSD drive connected to a Thunderbolt 4 hub. I can run all Mac x86 apps. I am seeing to many I can't with the Apple M processors. I never wanted my MacBook to be a iPhone or a iPad. But Apple do, what Apple wants to do.
M1 is just the lower end, I was one of the eGPU pioneers. Great concept but already M1 is much more practical than my old Intel+eGPU setup. Much of these thinks you said are no sense, Apple Silicon runs x86 apps, Mac is not an iPad or iPhone. Let’s see what M1X has to offer and if eGPU support will makes sense again.
 
You can run x86 VMs on the M1 Mac with this application:
I guess the app has improved a lot over time! I was able to get both Windows XP and Windows 2000 installed, although I’m still having an issue getting the shared Directory to work. It’s also still just 8am here by me and I’ve only spent maybe 30 min on both.. Exciting! I’m hoping I can get some of my old DOS games working again :)
 
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I guess the app has improved a lot over time! I was able to get both Windows XP and Windows 2000 installed, although I’m still having an issue getting the shared Directory to work. It’s also still just 8am here by me and I’ve only spent maybe 30 min on both.. Exciting! I’m hoping I can get some of my old DOS games working again :)
That's good to know about Win2000-- the older version I was running wouldn't work with Win2000. I'll give it a try as it runs just about all I need to run and performance should be okay.
 
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That's good to know about Win2000-- the older version I was running wouldn't work with Win2000. I'll give it a try as it runs just about all I need to run and performance should be okay.
I had to use their WinXP Template, and the SPICE Tools CD they provide doesn’t work for Win2000. So I’m not sure how I’ll get a shared directory to work. But still! Progress!
 
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no. Boot Camp is the way on the Mac.

I would get a high end windows gaming machine and run macOS in all it needs, a vm

I hate boot camp. It's a pain to switch between OS'es and whichever you use less frequently is months out of date when you boot it up so it's a security risk.

And running macOS on non-Apple hardware (even a VM) is a violation of Apple's EULA.
 
I hate boot camp. It's a pain to switch between OS'es and whichever you use less frequently is months out of date when you boot it up so it's a security risk.

And running macOS on non-Apple hardware (even a VM) is a violation of Apple's EULA.

yes I understand that holding down the option key once a week can be quite an inconvenience. :D

As far as Apple's EULA, I didn't care during my Apple II days, I may care even less now.
 
yes I understand that holding down the option key once a week can be quite an inconvenience. :D

As far as Apple's EULA, I didn't care during my Apple II days, I may care even less now.

If you only need to switch OS'es once a week, sure. But I'd need to switch multiple times through the day. What works well for me is running a Mac laptop and a Windows machine bare metal that I RDP into.
 
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If you only need to switch OS'es once a week, sure. But I'd need to switch multiple times through the day. What works well for me is running a Mac laptop and a Windows machine bare metal that I RDP into.

I only switch when I game. The once a week was so you can keep your Windows reasonably updated so its not a 1 hour cluster when finally do it.
 
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