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My problem with Vmware and parallels has always been a poor life cycle model. If I am upgrading every 2 years (past) and now yearly (future), it's not cost effective. You can buy a cheap laptop for $350 or Virtualbox is free.
 
My problem with Vmware and parallels has always been a poor life cycle model. If I am upgrading every 2 years (past) and now yearly (future), it's not cost effective. You can buy a cheap laptop for $350 or Virtualbox is free.

Are you upgrading your Apple every two years? That's a lot more expensive than a VMware license.

Are you upgrading your Windows OS? Again, more expensive than the VMware license.

VirtualBox is free, and worth every penny.

VMware costs a small sum, and is more than worth every penny for the better performance and better support.

And BTW, I have three copies of VMware Workstation for my personal Linux and Windows systems - at $119.99 each for the upgrade. I consider it a bargain.
 
I'm not sure how sustainable a business model it is for VMWare and Parallels to release minor updates for $49 every year. It would be nice if Fusion 5 and Parallels 8 were instead released as "4.2" and "7.1" at no charge for existing Fusion 4.1 and Parallels 7 owners. Upgrading an OS every year is one thing if it is going to be $20, but $49 is a bit much.

While this is a valid point, VMWare does an enormous amount of enterprise business. For even a medium size enterprise - think hundreds and thousands of VMs on ESXi clusters running RedHat enterprise linux using a different licensing/support model. Fusion for desktops makes up only a slice of their revenue.
 
I have full OSX Tiger, and Leopard licenses (they came with Macs now deceased), which will be running on Apple branded gear as per the EULA.

Nowhere in Apple's EULA does the client versions include provisioning for virtualization. Such provisions are explicitly in the server versions. Like it or not, you are violating a legal agreement between you and Apple. The very fact that neither Parallels nor Vmware allows the client OS's means that they have the same respect for Licenses that you should.

There are legal ways to run older OS's provided you have supported hardware. Multi-booting is one such way. If your hardware isn't supported, that's nobody's fault. If you run any sort of a legit business, I wouldn't want to base it on violating software licenses.

If you want to follow the law (which I highly suggest that you do) you should be targeting either Lion or ML both which are explicitly allowed to be virtualized. Otherwise you should spend a couple of hundred bucks on the older hardware. If you run a business at all, you shouldn't be basing it on dishonesty of breaking agreements.
 
So the world-class MILKERS are at it again
Huh??
I bought Parallels
Your fault, not anyone else's.
6 before mid-2011 just to discover that it would NOT run on ML. Absolutely atrocious customer service and ethics, as widely reported in the Parallels Forums.
When I was deciding between the two, I read that the ||s vendor is based in Russia, and that customer service was pathetic, probably just as bad as HP's or Red Hat's. That's what led me to buy Fusion, and it's worked well.
VMWare doesn't seem to be different either - everyone should just download VirtualBox and forget about these annual "mandatory" upgrades.
News flash: STUFF COSTS MONEY!
:rolleyes:

There are actually people out there who pay Attachmate $400 for a friggin *terminal emulator*. $50 for something that does what Fusion does is hardly onerous.
 
How many thousands of dollars did you give Apple in order to buy a system that would take the $20 upgrade? (And how recently, since many Apples sold only a few years ago won't run 10.7 or 10.8?)

Do you see the difference between a hardware vendor and a software house?

Yep,

You do know that Mountain Lion is software, right?

So I guess because Apple makes so much money, VMWare should charge $5,000 for Fusion and we should all be happy?

They can charge what they want, they will still be called out on it.
Just don't try to insult everyone by calling it an "upgrade".

The reason they do it? Because the majority of sheep will buy it anyway.
 
What about Vista?
 

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Does nobody use VirtualBox anymore?
I find it a great freebie alternative, having used Parallels in the past.

This is just what I was going to post too! Why are you people paying for something that's available for FREE - Go VirtualBox.

I used to use Parallels too, but after I found that they kept on asking for $50 every time they changed something, I looked elsewhere.

I think I also read somewhere that these other two applications are actually based on VirtualBox code too!
 
Software that only is licensed to run on a piece of hardware that you've paid Apple a thousand dollars or several multiples of a thousand to use.

You do know that Apple hardware isn't free, right?

Yep, keep building the straw man.

Microsoft doesn't make PC hardware and they are charging $39 for an update, right?
 
This is just what I was going to post too! Why are you people paying for something that's available for FREE - Go VirtualBox.

I used to use Parallels too, but after I found that they kept on asking for $50 every time they changed something, I looked elsewhere.

I think I also read somewhere that these other two applications are actually based on VirtualBox code too!

I've used Virtualbox for a while, and it's great. The only lacking feature is the ability to run apps only. Example: You cannot put Outlook, or say Word in the Dock and run it like a native app. Both Fusion and Parallels allow you to do that.
 
Wish there was an inexpensive way to mess around with 8. $50 for the application, $150 for the OS.

No thanks.
 
VMWare 5 - USB 3.0 Compatible?

Supposedly now supported, but I am not sure the use model. Here's what I see:

1. USB 3.0 drive is attached
2. exFAT partition & HFS partition both visible from Mac
3. I cannot see the exFAT volume from Win Desktop, but:
4. I can navigate to the exFAT volume: vmware-host > shared folders > exFAT

I can open files (i.e., XLS) from exFAT, but cannot save.

What am I doing wrong?
 
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