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Vodafone Germany to Discontinue 32/64GB iPhone 5, 16GB iPhone 4S
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According to google translate, it means 'discontinuation hardware', which sounds incorrect...
To empty the stocks thats still around, though still seem odd they wanna keep it. Sure hope they keep planning to bring the 128 gb around for the price of the current 64 gb...
I think anyone wanting a more "professional" looking phone will obviously go for a 5. The 5C being very popular with the younger generation: 16-30.
Processor?
If they replace the 4S and the lineup is:
iPhone 5C - $0
iPhone 5 - $99
iPhone 5S - $199
Does that mean the 5C will have the same A5 chip as the 4S?
(see: http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/)
That would keep the A7/A6/A5 pattern.
Otherwise, how do they differentiate the 5 to keep commanding $99? It has to be faster than the 5C.
If they replace the 4S and the lineup is:
iPhone 5C - $0
iPhone 5 - $99
iPhone 5S - $199
Does that mean the 5C will have the same A5 chip as the 4S?
(see: http://www.apple.com/iphone/compare-iphones/)
That would keep the A7/A6/A5 pattern.
Otherwise, how do they differentiate the 5 to keep commanding $99? It has to be faster than the 5C.
So the line up will be: iPhone5 Stale.....iPhone5 Cheap....and iPhone5 Outdated?
and iphone 4 heavy
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Doubt it, iOS 7 would not run well.
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if shipments of these phones have begun, I assume they will all come with iOS7? Does that mean the final release has happened? or will they ship with ios 6.1.3?
the tick-tock strategy of new phones every other year w/ the last flagship becoming a 2nd-tier device has been completely successful for apple. people buy them in droves...apple's iphone profits are greater than microsoft's entire business. the past three years of iphones are the top 3 phones on flickr.
so, perhaps not too similar.
and the C series is even more distinguished.
it means that if i want a cheaper iphone i'll have to buy that plastic phone....that's a shame. i've never seen a company go from a more advanced stuff to a less advanced stuff
if they hadn't discontinued it none would've bought the iphone 5c, which is pretty sad. bad decision
riiight.
Confusion in the product pricing. the 5 and the 5c are supposedly the same phone underneath, performance wise, but if I were to guess, the 5c will have an updated set of hardware that allows it to live longer with more functionality in the OS/HW roadmap. I'm hoping the 5c will get the fingerprint technology as well... as that would definitely drive a greater adoption of it by app developers and other parties who would really benefit from that step up in authentication.
All that said, if the 5 and the 5c are basically the same phone, why have both? My guess is they will sell the 5 in the 16GB size until they run out, and then a 16gb 5c will show up.
the 4s is definitely a less expensive phone to make 'now' given that all its R&D and production startup costs have been recouped. It also supports a niche market of organizations that require X amount of years support of a particular form factor when they make bulk buys (think companies, like say, Apple, that have built retail apps coupled with custom hardware onto the 4 'handprint' or Gov't agencies that buy a couple thousand phones and write an app that must work for X years per funding cycles, and they put it into the GSA contract that the hardware must be supported by the HW supplier for X+2 years). One could say the same for the 3GS and the Ipad 2.
Whole new price structure:
IPhone 5S 32GB $249, 64GB $349, 128GB $449
IPhone 5 16GB $149
iPhone 5C 16GB $99, 8GB $0
No 16GB 5S, price drop of $50 on 32 GB, etc., also a $50 price reduction on the 5.
IPhone 5S 32GB $249, 64GB $349, 128GB $449
IPhone 5 16GB $149
iPhone 5C 16GB $99, 8GB $0
No 16GB 5S, price drop of $50 on 32 GB, etc., also a $50 price reduction on the 5.
That would be great personally, I'd be all over an iPhone 5 for for $100, even with the extra $150 tacked on to ditch my android contract. I don't much care for the idea for a plastic iPhone and love the design / hardware of the 5.
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In a product cycle, the product goes through various changed versions until it gets discontinued all together.
If this is true, then my previous lineup was just a bit off...hmmm...just not sure where 5C will be.
iPhone 5C (no LTE, plastic back) 16GB $49 w/contract 6 colors
iPhone 5 (w/LTE) 16GB $99 w/contract white/black
iPhone 5S 32/64/128GB $199/299/399 w/contract white/champagne gold/graphite
but, maybe 5C will be 8GB??
in any case, no more 30-pin connector devices by end of year.
I justify 5C having no LTE as then they can make only one universal global model (like 4S). I just don't think they have a single chip that can do all the LTE/4G versions and be low power enough to prevent battery drain yet. (Yet...maybe next year they will.). I also justify this because no leaks have indicated one way or another if the 5C has LTE or not. Apple will save a lot of production costs with the plastic back, if it is actually as seen in leaks.
(previously I thought the iphone 5 would be 32GB)
iPhone 5C (no LTE, plastic back) 16GB $49 w/contract 6 colors
iPhone 5 (w/LTE) 16GB $99 w/contract white/black
iPhone 5S 32/64/128GB $199/299/399 w/contract white/champagne gold/graphite
but, maybe 5C will be 8GB??
in any case, no more 30-pin connector devices by end of year.
I justify 5C having no LTE as then they can make only one universal global model (like 4S). I just don't think they have a single chip that can do all the LTE/4G versions and be low power enough to prevent battery drain yet. (Yet...maybe next year they will.). I also justify this because no leaks have indicated one way or another if the 5C has LTE or not. Apple will save a lot of production costs with the plastic back, if it is actually as seen in leaks.
(previously I thought the iphone 5 would be 32GB)
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Agreed. This makes the most logical sense, standard connector (lightning), and standard larger screen size. 1 screen size makes it a whole lot easier on the iOS and for developers. This makes sense, but we will have to wait and see. The issue is the pricing points and storage. If they release a cheaper and newer phone (5c) at a price point lower than the ip5 and with similar specs, it's going to have less storage? If they are only keeping the 5 in the lineup with 16GB, that would mean 8GB for the 5c...not great. No current smartphone should be limited to 8GB these days IMHO. If that's what lower cost means, that would turn me off the 5c.
Is it possible that the 5 and the 5c could both have 16GB, and be the same price, so you could chose between having colour, or traditional black/white. Then release a 5C with 8GB as well as the true low cost option.
How about this
5S 32GB $199
5/5C 16GB $99
5C 8GB $0
This would make the decision a harder one, and traditionally that's how they like it! For just a bit more...I could have that....and then a little more...and so on. This is my bet, but lets wait and see!
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I don't think so, I think the 5C, being offered in 6 colors, will be one model, without LTE. Want LTE? iPhone 5 or 5S. 5S will have different colors also (no black, graphite, champagne gold, white). I think Apple will sell many of the 5C. I also think they would not be able to keep up with production if it came with LTE, and that gives the incentive to go with iPhone 5. I also think it will be $49 on contract, not $0. Apple hasn't always had a $0 phone on contract.
With that, I think, but, can't make up my mind, the 5C will be 16GB, iPhone 5 16 w/LTE (32 or 32/64 until I saw this rumor). Plus, Apple's lineup right now is 4-8GB/4S-16GB/5-16/32/64, so, only options with the top-of-the line model.
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This is why I think the 5C will not have LTE...everyone is assuming it will be internally the same as iPhone 5, maybe, all but the LTE chip. This will make a cheap production for Apple as they can go with one universal global model like the 4S was, and with the cheaper to produce plastic back, they can offer more colors.
currently the iPhone 4 & the 4S both do not have LTE. The 5C is rumored to be the base model iPhone, and no rumors of LTE in it or not....