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Yeah and if he didn't get his car serviced at the stealership, he'd realize that for $250, he could buy and install a stainless steel, higher than OEM quality, aftermarket, high-flow cat for his car (x2 if you have 2). And he could have prevented any damage to the cat if he didn't run his car with a bad MAF (99% of the time, this is what destroys the cat in VW's).

VW's aren't like Toyotas, if you neglect them, they will bite you, but with a little preventative maintenance, they will last just as long.

Some of us prefer not to devote our lives to car maintenance. Maybe that makes us not "VW" people. But that's also what makes me a Mac person -- I don't enjoy maintaining my computer either.
 
I hope you realize that American cars are among the best quality cars you can find.

Once again we are fed this sort of rubbish. American cars only work as muscle cars, let's be honest, and Jaguar is a British company.

Although I do admit I would look at Japanese cars before I even think about buying a European Car (sorry but its true).

You'd rather rive a mass-produced refrigerator on wheels than a performance European car with at least an element of personality?
 
Whoa! Chrysler does not own Mercedes, Mercedes bought them, lost money and sold them to a private firm here in the past few months. Let's not get too crazy with who owns who now.

http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20070803/FREE/70803012/1024

.. Top of quality listing is Lexus and Buick, and they tied for reliability. Yes, I typed Buick and that's an American company. Granted at the same time you should since you've made the same exact car for close to two decades now. If you can't get it right by now, then you should give up.

HAHAHA That was really funny, mostly because it is accurate. If Apple actually did design all of the entertainment electronics in a car, I would actually think about buying that car, even if it was German. Imagine having to synch you car up to iTunes? Apple just needs to get their GPS software to be the best and I would be hooked. I am convinced that this is a great way for Apple to go, I just hope it is not with VW. The only German car I would ever own is a BMW 5 or 6 series, I am very loyal to Infiniti and Lexus. Bottom line is Apple will go with whoever gives them the best deal, and they are very anxious to become more popular in the EU, and VW might give them that.
 
Some of us prefer not to devote our lives to car maintenance. Maybe that makes us not "VW" people. But that's also what makes me a Mac person -- I don't enjoy maintaining my computer either.

Yep I hear ya. In my opinion VW's are not point A to point B vehicles; they are enthusiast cars that require religious maintenance. Many people buy them and treat them like they're Toyota's, and that’s where their bad reputation comes from.

VW's come with so many little touches that other car manufacturers just don't do, for example, one of my favorite ones is that ALL of the windows are auto down. Press the button normally and it rolls down until you stop, press the button a little harder and it will roll all the way down, this works for rolling them up too. It’s such a small thing, and one would have to be insane to buy a car for that feature, but that kind of attention to detail is present in every aspect of the car. Some other companies have this feature for the drivers side window, some don't have it at all, but it's that kind of attention to detail that makes me love VW's, and I love Mac's for the same reason. I love how everything about the interface is so refined and right where it should be. Both Mac's and VW's have the best aesthetics in their respective markets.
 
The killer was the most recent one: the check engine light came on, and the repair shop says it's a $2500 replacement of the catalytic converters.
You're mechanic is raping you. Here's a catalytic converter for that car that costs $295.00: http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=253.167T
Not sure where he's coming up with the extra $2200.00

Even if he wanted to replace the entire exhaust as well, from the cat back, here's one for $235: http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=253.415

I realize these are aftermarket parts, but no way he should be quoting you 5x that amount.
 
The iCar will be electric...and charge via magsafe! The initial magsafe adapters will have defects and will melt away, and the battery inside the iCar will swell. The windshield will have a yellow tint, and opening the door summons the "Apple" chime we are greeted with upon starting OS X.

lol, jks. this seems like an exciting research project. MWSF 08, anyone?
 
Hmmmmmm, it looks like Apple is late to the party by about 2 years :p iCar has been on the market for almost 2 years now and it's made by Mitsubishi and the car is actually a great design for what it is ( http://www.mitsubishi-motors.co.jp/i/index.html ).

Mitsubishi actually has released a special iCar iPod edition, http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/9597/ , with a nice built in slot for iPod Nanos.

As far as Apple supposedly collaborating with Jaguar on XF, I say, Apple please stick to the electronics because you still have a long way to go in car industry :p

And as far as Apples partnership with VW, jeeezzzzz, anybody, ANYBODY but VW please. Reliability is not their strong suit which would be a bad partner for a newcomer.
 
I just checked out the iCar. It is basically the same as a regular Volkswagen car except that the battery is not user replaceable. You have to send the iCar to Apple to replace the battery after 300 charges.
;)
 
I want my car without windows

Apple makes nice devices and VW makes nice cars. So this is good news.
It's good to see Apple making business with car manufacturers. it doesn't matter which car manufacturer it is, there will be more.
 
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Also... (if you consider racing as proof) If you look at Le Mans Series racing Standings for 2007 you will find that the 2 leading cars are American cars; Saleen S7-R & Corvette C6.R. The S7-R also holds the single lap record at Le Mans. Also... the C5.R/C6.R has won 5 out of the last 6 races at Le Mans (A freaking 24 hour race!!! If thats not a display of quality I dont know what is)

Ya i consider racing proof. Or even better an race with an endurance aspect.
Ever heard of the Audi TDI R10?
http://www.audi.com/audi/com/en2/experience/motorsport_events/Audi_R10_TDI/Audi_at_Le_Mans.html
 
I wonder what kind of mods I can do to an iCar. First thing would be to lose the little VW engine and replace it with a Chevy 632. Low compression, so I can add a blower. Get rid of the cat and muffler. Ford 9" rear end (RWD would be a must). And then an Apple sticker in the rear window for that extra ooomph. I can see this puppy running 8s.
 
Man, some of you guys are vicious.
If you're happy with the brand you drive, great, but why get all pouty and superior about other people's choices?
I'm happy with my Jetta. For the fun that it is to drive, the few repairs I've had to make have been an easy tradeoff. I had Porsches for decades, too, so I wasn't going to settle for a car with dull response to driver input.
I gotta say, I've seen more Apple stickers on VWs than any other make.
 
That ain't a problem with your car. That's a problem with your mechanic.

Actually, 2000 Passats has had problems.. read Consumer Reports. One of the worst cars ever built. Maybe the new passats are better?.. don't know but i sure wouldn't spend money to find out
 
I'd recommend a Toyota.. I payed $27,000 for an Acura and while it was beautiful and easy to maintain.. it rattled like a freaking chandelier!

My 96 toyota 4x5 truck with 186,000 miles still doesn't sound as noisey as that 2004 TSX with 20,000 miles.

Buy Toyota.

As for the whole iCar thing.. I'm kind of getting iTired of this iS**t.

I got an Infiniti FX45, 2005 year, but I regret it, not because it's a bad car, but because since 2006 Infiniti revamped their interior line and it's SO much better. Gone are the plasticky materials and in replace are polished chrome and aluminum, maple and other wood grains and better ergonomics. I've owned BMW's, Lexsuses (or Lexi? lol), and Range Rovers, but I've yet to have any problems with my Infiniti, I highly recommend to any one looking for a new vehicle to check out the new G series, not crazy expensive and the car has balls!

Man, some of you guys are vicious.
If you're happy with the brand you drive, great, but why get all pouty and superior about other people's choices?
I'm happy with my Jetta. For the fun that it is to drive, the few repairs I've had to make have been an easy tradeoff. I had Porsches for decades, too, so I wasn't going to settle for a car with dull response to driver input.
I gotta say, I've seen more Apple stickers on VWs than any other make.

You know, I'm surprised to read and hear about VW's being 50/50. My Uncle owns a car dealership, we sell everything from Lexus, BMW, Infiniti, Land Rover, Nissan, VW, Toyota, etc. and before I bought my Infiniti I actually wanted a VW Tourag or loaded Jetta. They talked me out of it, and I went higher and got a lease on an Infiniti, although I really like the VW line (heck, they even sell a $60,000 VW now, the Phaentom or something). I was disappointed to learn of their spotty service record :(.
 
Yeah, the Phaeton is really nice, although i still prefer the C6 for the definition of luxury saloon.

There's way too much VW hate here. They are a strong, healthy European brand with many influential branches such as Audi. This news can only be good and i look forward to seeing where it goes.
 
You're mechanic is raping you. Here's a catalytic converter for that car that costs $295.00: http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=253.167T
Not sure where he's coming up with the extra $2200.00

Even if he wanted to replace the entire exhaust as well, from the cat back, here's one for $235: http://www.techtonicstuning.com/showpart.asp?partnum=253.415

I realize these are aftermarket parts, but no way he should be quoting you 5x that amount.

I have the V6, not the 1.8 turbo. And don't forget that two are necessary. Some quick searching reveals aftermarket prices closer to $400 apiece (both of them need replacing). I imagine the mechanic is getting the parts direct from VW, so that's going to be a higher cost. As others have suggested, it's recommended that the MAF be replaced in this repair as well, which adds to the cost. But whatever... with labor, it's going to be at least $1,000, probably more, and I'm sick of this stuff.
 
Brushed Aluminum!

The car has to be brushed aluminum with the Mac Pro housing holes placed at the grill. Also the emblem should be the apple logo with the VW logo within the apple. The onboard computing system should take care of the speedometer, odometer, etc.; as well as have a built in 3G wireless card for internet and phone and a GPS system for maps. There will of course be WiFi and bluetooth 2.0 so that you can sync your home computer or laptop to the onboard computer and get all your music and contacts. I think that the whole computer should run off of voice command so that you don't have to take your eyes off the rode. Also, it should be a hybrid so as to keep with the greener apple idea.
 
For those of you denying VW is the Apple of automakers - you're living in a bubble!

I'm not a huge VW fan myself, and I'm sure that there's Mac users that dislike the other four, but whether you like it or not, Apple, The Gap, VW, Starbucks and Nintendo (and maybe JetBlue) are all in the same branch of the corporate branding/marketing tree.

In the minds of most people, all us Mac users park our Jettas in the airport lot, grab the next flight to San Francisco on JetBlue and pass the time alternating between our Nintendo DS and iPod while wearing our latest Gap kakis, all the while looking forward to our first glimpse of Starbucks when we land...

I hate to say it, but that's life.

(And Toyota is SO the Sony of automakers!)
 
For those of you denying VW is the Apple of automakers - you're living in a bubble!

I'm not a huge VW fan myself, and I'm sure that there's Mac users that dislike the other four, but whether you like it or not, Apple, The Gap, VW, Starbucks and Nintendo (and maybe JetBlue) are all in the same branch of the corporate branding/marketing tree.

In the minds of most people, all us Mac users park our Jettas in the airport lot, grab the next flight to San Francisco on JetBlue and pass the time alternating between our Nintendo DS and iPod while wearing our latest Gap kakis, all the while looking forward to our first glimpse of Starbucks when we land...

I hate to say it, but that's life.

(And Toyota is SO the Sony of automakers!)

LOL Wow, so on point, although I'm more Banana Republic than Gap (used to be a "Banana Bitch" in the 90's - "Just synch it" lol), and more Rock and Republic jeans than khaki's, but yeah, we are a Corp. world. When we start labeling things in our lives as "That's so Pottery Barn, or that's so Armani", you know we've crossed the point of no return...

About Jetblue, I fly it every trip back to NYC, but I've read about Virgin America, and how they're cheaper and that they've incorporated a lot of iPod-esque connections and usage into their cabins. My next flight out west, I'm booking my tickets. Any one flown them yet?

The car has to be brushed aluminum with the Mac Pro housing holes placed at the grill. Also the emblem should be the apple logo with the VW logo within the apple. The onboard computing system should take care of the speedometer, odometer, etc.; as well as have a built in 3G wireless card for internet and phone and a GPS system for maps. There will of course be WiFi and bluetooth 2.0 so that you can sync your home computer or laptop to the onboard computer and get all your music and contacts. I think that the whole computer should run off of voice command so that you don't have to take your eyes off the rode. Also, it should be a hybrid so as to keep with the greener apple idea.

God, as awesome as that sounds, it makes me wonder if we're almost "too connected" to electronics and the internet. All that in one car would make my head spin, and would likely cause this blonde boy to have a few "accidents" while playing with the equipment lol.
 
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