Volume Header Needs Minor Repair

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  1. bingefeller macrumors 6502

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    Hi guys,

    I made a post a few weeks ago saying that I had a power failure and my Mac went out on it. After that I ran Disk Utility from the DVD and everything was OK.

    So, tonight I downloaded the programme "Maintenance" and it says my volume needs to be repaired.

    I rebooted from the DVD and ran the Disk Utility and got the "volume header needs minor repair" message. I've repaired it, and verified it and it says it's OK. However, I'm very concerned about this. Some people say that this is a sign of an about to fail hard drive - is this true? My computer is only like 5 weeks old..... Do I need to worry? My computer is running perfectly.

    I have an iMac Intel Core 2 Duo - OS 10.4.8 - 2gig RAM. Do I need to include anymore information?

    This guy has the same problem.


    I also found this article.

    Is the above information correct?

    Any advice would be appreciated! Sorry to post yet another thread on this, but different threads give different advice and it's kind of confusing and I'm also extremely anxious about this computer breaking down or something going wrong with it.
     
  2. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    If it's an iMac G5 then it'll be older than five weeks. The attached information about journaling is correct in theory, as it says. As great as it would be to say a journaled drive doesn't need repair, this is unfortunately not the case. Anyway, keep your data backed up and verify your drive with either Disk Utility or Maintenance regularly. These errors can be the sign of a failing drive, but not necessarily. Just keep an eye on it. :)
     
  3. yadmonkey macrumors 65816

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    It sounds to me like you had some errors in the file system/directory. While they can be caused by physical issues with the drive, they don't necessarily imply physical issues. You said your iMac went out with the power recently - well when you shut down a Mac properly, one of the things it's doing is updating the disk directory. If the Mac shuts down suddenly, then the directory doesn't get updated and errors can occur.

    I find these types of errors on healthy hard drives all the time. Disk Utility and the FSCK command can fix some of them. There are plenty of non-physical ways for disk directories to get damaged.

    If you really want to be sure about the physical health of the drive, get a disk utility which can do a surface scan on the drive. This will identify any bad sectors, which are more typically found on older drives. If there were other physical issues, then you Mac probably wouldn't be running perfectly.

    That said, mad jew hit it on the head - whether you think your computer is healthy or not, back up all your important data. This is the only way you'll ever be sure!
     
  4. bingefeller thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Sorry - it's an Intel Core 2 Duo, does this make a difference?

    Thanks for the advice guys. Do either of you recommend any disk utility programmes such as Disk Warrior or Tech Tool Pro? I read in a magazine that they can sometimes do more harm than good......
     
  5. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    Ahh okay. Nah, it doesn't really make a difference. I agree with the wise but smelly yadmonkey's sentiments; I don't think there's much to worry about. I don't use those third party tools, personally. I find that if Disk utility is incapable of fixing my problem and a complete reformat doesn't help then the drive's as good as dead. Those tools are great for retrieving a failing disk if only momentarily to get your data back from it. However, if you back up regularly, then this shouldn't ever be an issue. :)
     
  6. bingefeller thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Thanks for your help, Mad Jew.

    Do you think a reformat would help in this case or should I just leave well enough alone? I verified the disk this morning and everything appears to be OK.
     
  7. mad jew Moderator emeritus

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    If it's passing its verifications then I wouldn't worry about it mate. :)
     
  8. bingefeller thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Yes it is! Thank you, sir.
     
  9. SmurfBoxMasta macrumors 65816

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    But, just in case, set aside $80 to buy Diskwarrior, if it starts acting up again with those same errors. DW is THE #1 tool to fix volume header & directory structure problems. It has saved my a*s many, many times over the years, and has NEVER caused a single problem on any of my disks, dating back to my OS 8.6 smurfbox in 1999 thru my current QS w/ 10.4.10 :D
     
  10. bingefeller thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Hmm, I might look into getting a copy just to be safe.

    :)
     
  11. yadmonkey macrumors 65816

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    Smelly?!?! I... uh... how did you know?! Must have used a packet sniffer...

    I'm not a big fan of disk utilities in the hands on non-pros. It's true that some of them can cause harm - for example trying to defrag a disk which doesn't have a squeeky clean directory is an invitation to trouble. That said, I can't really see how Diskwarrior could cause trouble - that program is terrific. Tech Tool I really only use for the occasional surface scan when a client brings me a hard drive which already appears to have a physical issue. But in that case, it's really not doing much other than confirming the obvious.
     

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