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saving107

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Oct 14, 2007
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JBunkers said:
Man you guys don't know what you're missing. iOS 5 offers such significant API and core language benefits to developers that our company's basically closed the book on iOS 4 for good.

For example: this function, which is not legal under iOS 4 but is built in to 5.

Get yourselves in the future. Don't like it (you will), you can always restore.

Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

This has always been the case, once you upgrade to the newest OS version, you can't go back.
 

BigDukeSix

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Sep 22, 2010
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Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

Agreed, I have also heard that once you go up to iOS 5, that is it, you cannot go back. While I have no doubt iOS 5 is nice, after reading the thread's here about all the issues folks were having, I do not need it yet, nor will I get it just so I can have the shutter button on the volume control. I can be very patient, and until some of those issues get resolved, I will wait.
 

slyv

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Feb 16, 2010
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Other apps, like "top camera" or "camera genius" added this feature before camera+ about 2 weeks ago.

But the most interesting is that yesterday camera genius released update where they removed this feature!!! They wrote: "✓ Removal of Volume Shot as requested by Apple.".
 

BeamWalker

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Dec 18, 2009
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Besides the 2 handed grip taking a picture is still not ideal. While pressing the button the iphone itself moves quite a bit. So especially with macro shots the soft button is the safer bet. I appreciate the choice I have now though.
 

Rayday

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Aug 13, 2009
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Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

Only if there was a simple way to look around the internet.... I don't know.... maybe a machine that will search the internet for me. I know, they could call it a search engine.

http://www.google.com/search?q=downgrade+ios
http://www.google.com/search?q=revert+ios
http://www.redmondpie.com/downgrade...3gs-ipad-2-ipad-1-ipod-touch-how-to-tutorial/
http://www.iphonestuffs4u.com/downgrade-ios-4-3-4/
http://www.ihelplounge.com/ihelplounge/2011/06/how-to-downgrade-the-ios-5-to-ios-433432.html
Heck.... even: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1168337/

I'm not trying to pick on any single person, but it seems that people are too easy to type "From what I've heard...."

Asking for help is one thing, but doing a simple, 2 word Google search and looking at the top result is another.

Let the thumbs down begin....
 

BJMRamage

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Oct 2, 2007
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I downloaded Camera+

I didn't find it useful at all.
I tried the Volume Trigger and found it moves the phone too much.
I do like the idea of a headphone trigger though.

I might try Camera+ again, I still keep it on my phone, I paid for it and want to feel like it wasn't wasted purchase.

Anyone want to give me reasons to "like" it?
 

Rayday

macrumors member
Aug 13, 2009
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Rayday, good info.

I think I did read this link several weeks ago, and this is what I was going by:
http://www.readwriteweb.com/mobile/2011/10/why-you-cant-downgrade-ios.php

BigDukeSix... you (and the site you referenced) are correct..... "Apple" doesn't let you downgrade. However, it doesn't take a jailbreak to do it.

The downgrade method just is not as elegant as Apple's typical "It just works".

If more people put links to sources of their "knowledge", I think the internet would be a much friendlier community. Now that I see what you read, I understand where you are coming from.

People too often take the "I'm right and you're wrong" approach. Whether it be: Mac/PC, Rep/Dem, iOS/green robot, etc.
 

Swift

macrumors 68000
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If you can't beat them/think of it first, then block them citing DA violations regarding 'unauthorised' use of API. Then do a 180-degree U-turn once you've utilised the idea into you own OS.

Not Apple's finest hour this...

Why? They planned to use something themselves, and the API wasn't fully developed. They make a private API first so the bugs can be removed. Then they release the API to all camera apps.

They asked Camera+ to remove the feature, and then they put it back in when the new API became public in iOS 5. Apple used it what, a month before Camera+?

The company got in trouble because they removed the feature, but they left an Easter Egg there so there was still a way to make it work. That's why they got pulled temporarily.

If you promise to do something, Apple doesn't take it kindly when you don't do it.
 

davepilgrimus

macrumors newbie
Nov 19, 2011
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Apple borrows a lot for their iphone from apps

Apple seems to "borrow" a lot of features. You do have to give it to them that they pay attention enough to see what other developers are doing to improve their products. Other companies spend countless dollars on focus groups that led to nothing. I hate it for taptaptap though. However, I do love the new quick camera feature on the new iphone 4e though.
 

brygruver

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Aug 2, 2007
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Actually, from what I understand from information I've read online, once you upgrade your device to iOS 5, you CAN NOT go back to iOS 4. Can anyone else verify or discredit this particular information for us?

That is correct, you can not go back. Apple signs (verifies) each installation of iOS. After a new version is released, the old version will not be signed anymore. This is also why you cannot restore an iOS device without an internet connection.
 

Ashlyn

macrumors newbie
Jun 17, 2011
8
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San Francisco
ProCamera might be the only one with VolumeSnap using a clean method

I just read this: http://blog.procamera-app.com/?p=346. It told a nice story about ProCamera, Camera Genius, and Camera+. Now I understand why Camera Genius' VolumeSnap got removed. If Camera+ used the same 'hacked' method, then they will face the same fate? So maybe ProCamera is the only advanced camera app with the VolumeSnap?
 
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