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I have the Volvo EX30 and the system does not allow Google Business email addresses. My full Google Maps catalog is on my Google Workspace email address and not in my @gmail.com. I hope that they will open the system also for this.

… Wait, I’d never heard this one yet. You mean to tell me G Suite/Google Workspace accounts can’t sign into the vehicle? So… those of us that got Gmail For Our Domains back in the day get screwed again?!?!? Holy hell.
 
Yeah the Volvo UI is terrible. Basically a giant Android phone. Volvo is the ideal automaker to adopt CarPlay Ultra.

That “giant Android phone” is still better than most modern native car UIs. It’s smooth and responsive, has best-in-class maps and navigation, updates over the air, and has a good selection of third-party apps to install.

The EX90 does have an unfortunate reputation for software bugs, but those seem more to do with the “car” side of the software that Volvo developed, not the infotainment OS that Google developed. The Android software on the Polestar 2, which I have quite a bit of experience with, was very good.
 
I wonder if it is like my wife's Tesla... in order to use Apple Music she has to pay for both the Tesla connection service and the Apple Music service.

You only have to pay for Apple Music once and it works on all of your devices.

As for the Tesla data service, are you also surprised that you have to pay the phone company for a SIM card? And for the fibre data connection in your home? Or should Apple include those when you buy their devices?
 
You only have to pay for Apple Music once and it works on all of your devices.

As for the Tesla data service, are you also surprised that you have to pay the phone company for a SIM card? And for the fibre data connection in your home? Or should Apple include those when you buy their devices?
No, but with CarPlay you don’t need it.
 
Give me an Apple Music App on my car's infotainment system and I don't need CarPlay. In addition I don't need a full implementation of Apple Music in my car because it is a PLAYBACK device. Just let me stream my Apple Music playlists.

I manage my Apple Music database/albums/songs/playlists etc.. on my Mac. I would never do it in my car.
 
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Meh, my wife's Tesla doesn't have CarPlay and yet has Apple Music and the UI is so terrible I end up doing bluetooth streaming through my phone. Just because it supports Apple Music doesn't mean it is like having CarPlay.
100% The Apple Music app sucks on the Tesla. It just feels clunky and doesn't have the smooth song transitions. Most every other time its asking to log in again when switching profiles and all. It is just a huge headache most the time and would rather just have CarPlay.
 
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How does Spatial Audio even work in a car?
The high end car audio systems have multiple speakers all around the interior, so they are able to do the kind of music shaping you'd want in something like Spatial Audio. It might even be easier since they have lots of speakers (I think it's 28 in the high end EX60 stereo), including in the headrests. I know my car can "aim" the sound into a couple regions in the car (including just at the driver), so it's likely just a design issue to make it work.
 
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Volvo has not been Volvo since it was bought out. They lost their soul.
Oh, that's not true at all. The cars may have a different technology base, but Volvo is still focused on the things that Volvo has always been focused on, and in some ways is driving what the other Geely car companies are doing. It's not clear that Volvo could have survived without Geely investing in it, but their touch appears to be pretty light overall. Volvo still is doing quirky things with their design, and their safety testing remains pretty amazing and results in cars that are very survivable. It's one of the main reasons I bought one, I had to change cars because of a new child and seeing Volvos smashed between big trucks and still able to open their doors was a big selling point.
 
The high end car audio systems have multiple speakers all around the interior, so they are able to do the kind of music shaping you'd want in something like Spatial Audio. It might even be easier since they have lots of speakers (I think it's 28 in the high end EX60 stereo), including in the headrests. I know my car can "aim" the sound into a couple regions in the car (including just at the driver), so it's likely just a design issue to make it work.
Interesting! Seems like ATMOS audio for cars. I've been reading up on it since posting. I have to say- when driving, not sure I'd prefer to be inside the music or just "out in front" like the usual stereo mix we get from listening sans spatial/ATMOS audio. It just seems like a gimmick to me.
 
In reality, they are more Android users than IOS.
Why does Google manage to get their platform so integrated to cars where Apple hasn’t? I’m presuming Google pay their way in…? If that’s the case, why didn’t Apple just adopt this approach?
 
That “giant Android phone” is still better than most modern native car UIs. It’s smooth and responsive, has best-in-class maps and navigation, updates over the air, and has a good selection of third-party apps to install.

The EX90 does have an unfortunate reputation for software bugs, but those seem more to do with the “car” side of the software that Volvo developed, not the infotainment OS that Google developed. The Android software on the Polestar 2, which I have quite a bit of experience with, was very good.
All that can be done as well or better with CarPlay, without it feeling like you're using a discount Android phone on your dash. "best-in-class maps and navigation" is subjective.
 
In reality, they are more Android users than IOS.
You don’t need an Android phone to use a car with Android Automotive.

Most likely the reasons Android have been more successful than Apple in getting deals isn’t related to the functionality of the systems, but in the deals behind the curtains. Where the money and information flows, and how easy it is to implement.
 
All that can be done as well or better with CarPlay, without it feeling like you're using a discount Android phone on your dash. "best-in-class maps and navigation" is subjective.
I have a friend with a Polestar 2. His started out as very buggy and unreliable, but after recent updates according to him is running smoothly.
 
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Nice to see Apple Music integration or in fact vehicles supporting CarPlay at a time when some manufacturers are not for it. Not so sure whether I want Gemini integration capability.
 
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You only have to pay for Apple Music once and it works on all of your devices.

As for the Tesla data service, are you also surprised that you have to pay the phone company for a SIM card? And for the fibre data connection in your home? Or should Apple include those when you buy their devices?
My CRV has CarPlay, I don't have to pay a monthly fee. So yeah, the option exists. 🙄
 
That's what I like to see. Just log into Apple Music from the car. Looks like their best vehicle yet, great range, minimalist airy interior and it seems also software. Well done Volvo! I'm not into their designs too much, but I'd pick it over the latest Benz and BMW.
 
Meh, my wife's Tesla doesn't have CarPlay and yet has Apple Music and the UI is so terrible I end up doing bluetooth streaming through my phone. Just because it supports Apple Music doesn't mean it is like having CarPlay.
I like the Apple Music app. The sound quality is pretty good. Now it was reported that Tesla was adding atmos to the Apple Music app. Where is that?
 
I know you're being sarcastic, but that's not how Volvo's system works. It's an assistive system, and it requires the driver to stay involved with the car at all times. There's no auto-drive system, at least not yet...Volvo is probably working on something but they are very safety conscious and likely won't release anything until it's very capable of fully automated driving, including dicey situations that other manufacturers don't handle well.

The EX60 really looks like it's going to be a big step in EVs, lots of range and nice features for not a crazy amount of money. We'll see how the execution turns out...Volvo's cars right now (including my V60 Polestar PHEV) are really great up until the user interface, where things are anywhere from adequate to troublesome. They really need to get the AAOS setup nailed down, maybe this is the car that they finally have it sorted out.
What is not a lot of money. $73K US is not a lot of money? And $90K for the upper trim model. Sure for some it’s pocket change. But look at the sales of EVs in that price point and Volvo won’t move the needle.
 
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