I assume apple is preventing 5,1 owners from updating 10.15 so they could buy newer computers.Apple is reining in the Mac Pro party by taking over the upgradeability of these machines. They control the release or withholding of drivers, and the compatibility of their OS releases. What prevents Catalina from running on cmp 5,1? Why won't they release the latest drivers for cmp 5,1 for nvidia? I'm happy with my machine as it is, which doesn't require the latest upgrades or highest power. Will the upgradeability of even the 7,1 be guaranteed to be forever? I was thinking of buying it as my last computer ever. But right now I don't think I will.
CPU is socketed so would assume there will be a decent supply of chips on eBay as others upgrade to 20+ cores.I need at least a 16 core machine... Will be very difficult to find one.
Apple is reining in the Mac Pro party by taking over the upgradeability of these machines. They control the release or withholding of drivers, and the compatibility of their OS releases. What prevents Catalina from running on cmp 5,1? Why won't they release the latest drivers for cmp 5,1 for nvidia? I'm happy with my machine as it is, which doesn't require the latest upgrades or highest power. Will the upgradeability of even the 7,1 be guaranteed to be forever? I was thinking of buying it as my last computer ever. But right now I don't think I will.
CPU is socketed so would assume there will be a decent supply of chips on eBay as others upgrade to 20+ cores.
It never sat well when Apple just arbitrarily included a list of model numbers that killed the install of Operating systems. What not just have a dialog "Your machine is not supported, do you want to install anyway?"
I remember my 2006 Mac Pro running the latest version after I did whatever hack at the time. It worked perfectly after I ditched the GT7300 (sp??), minus some obvious things like hand-off and I think air drop not working (whoopidy do).
Their support lasted a long time, but still: they obviously have a thing against repairs and old hardware keeping people free from upgrading.
We Mac Pro users are like a company's worst nightmare. We want to buy the Mac just once then upgrade it with other people's parts forever. Obviously that's a bad business model. They will get their money somehow. Making the case really cool, like this one, is obviously an extremely smart move. When you lift the sheathing off the tubular frame with that handle its like taking the case off a nuclear warhead. That alone is almost worth the price. But will I buy the next one after that is the question. Technology will advance and we will have a need that we don't even foresee. 16K video. Virtual reality rooms. Life simulation. Who knows? But will the 2019 Mac Pro last and be relevant forever? Probably not, especially if Apple doesn't want it to.
At some point a manufacturer has to stop supporting older products. The 5,1 has had a good run but it's approaching 10 years in age (save for the 2012 release). I believe Apple has a published support schedule for their systems (though I can't recall if it applies to just hardware or hardware and software). I really like my 5,1 Mac Pro but I do think almost 10 years is a pretty good run for hardware.Apple is reining in the Mac Pro party by taking over the upgradeability of these machines. They control the release or withholding of drivers, and the compatibility of their OS releases. What prevents Catalina from running on cmp 5,1? Why won't they release the latest drivers for cmp 5,1 for nvidia? I'm happy with my machine as it is, which doesn't require the latest upgrades or highest power. Will the upgradeability of even the 7,1 be guaranteed to be forever? I was thinking of buying it as my last computer ever. But right now I don't think I will.
Is it preventing? Or not supporting? The former I would object to, the latter is common for businesses and older equipment.I assume apple is preventing 5,1 owners from updating 10.15 so they could buy newer computers.
We Mac Pro users are like a company's worst nightmare. We want to buy the Mac just once then upgrade it with other people's parts forever. Obviously that's a bad business model. They will get their money somehow. Making the case really cool, like this one, is obviously an extremely smart move. When you lift the sheathing off the tubular frame with that handle its like taking the case off a nuclear warhead. That alone is almost worth the price. But will I buy the next one after that is the question. Technology will advance and we will have a need that we don't even foresee. 16K video. Virtual reality rooms. Life simulation. Who knows? But will the 2019 Mac Pro last and be relevant forever? Probably not, especially if Apple doesn't want it to.