W5590s in 4,1

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  1. mattspace macrumors 6502

    mattspace

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    Hi Folks,

    Pondering options for a boost from dual 2.26 in my 4,1 and was wondering what the wisdom of the interwebs is regarding a pair of the 3.33ghz W5590 (used lidless).

    Pros as far as I can see - faster clock speed, a lot cheaper than twin 6 core chips (cheap enough that stuffing up a delidding isn't the end of the world if I have to DIY that), and utilises 1333mhz RAM without a 5,1 firmware upgrade, so keeps the machine more "stock".

    Cons - Hotter? Uses more power (to do the same task or has more headroom to use more power doing more tasks)? Finding a tutorial on applying thermal paste to a lidless CPU?

    thoughts?
     
  2. carpsafari Suspended

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    That will not work, W series are single cpu only!
    You need a X series.
    Look at X5677 that would be a nice one for you.

    I would NOT de'lidd CPU's, the work around is MUCH safer!!
     
  3. mattspace thread starter macrumors 6502

    mattspace

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    According the the CPU guide here, the W5590 is a dual CPU SKU - it's the original top end XServe config.

    Nehalem 4 core Dual Xeon W5590 3.33 1333 130W x x -

    I dunno - at ~$AU70 for a CPU, vs a whole processor tray - I could probably trash 7 or 8 processors before getting close to the cost of replacing a socket.
     
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    I used W5590 before, work great, although I would do the 5.1 hack, because it will show only 3.2 as 4.1 and 3.3 as 5.1.
    But as far as I know W series are single cpu.
     
  5. h9826790 macrumors 604

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    QPI Links =2 from Intel. That's good for dual CPU.
    Screen Shot 2016-04-27 at 17.04.12.jpg
     
  6. mattspace thread starter macrumors 6502

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    Ok so having established it's a suitable cpu for a dual processor config, are there any opinions on whether its a "good" upgrade - primarily in terms of heat output, power consumption, and the sorts of things it'll do faster.

    Real world doing the same tasks, is it likely to use more power / make more heat at idle, for example?

    My real painponts performance-wise are Aperture rendering from preview to processed RAW, and photoshop cs5 viewport movement / zoom using a trackpad.

    I don't really want to update my GPU yet, until we see what the options are for (non-Apple) 5k displays beyond the current dell 5k, and whether single stream / single cable becomes a thing.
     
  7. flowrider, May 1, 2016
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    flowrider macrumors 601

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    They will. Below is from a post I made three years ago:

    And with the W5590s, upgrading the firmware to a 5,1 is not necessary

    I ran W5590s in my 5,1 before doing a second upgrade to X5677s. They were fast, but ran a bit hot. Below are GeekBench scores from both CPUs.

    W5590 Geekbench.jpg X5677 Geekbench.jpg

    Lou
     

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