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The thing about this is that Apple is fast to patch anything jailbreak related, but they're twiddling their thumbs on the proximity sensor issue.

The only reason they patched this so fast is because the jailbreaking site effectively publicized a very serious security flaw that could have been exploited by people with bad intentions. Normally they don't issue small patches just to block jailbreaking.
 
Apple doesn't care if you want to Jailbreak your phone. They just want to make sure it's just difficult enough so that when people do, they get a sense of how they're going into un-protected territory. Plugging in, running special software and the practice of putting your phone into DFU mode sends a pretty clear message; 'this is not officially supported'... so it's pretty self-regulatory. Apple's not concerned with people who learn how and do this, because those people are typically pretty self sufficient... but when jail-breaking simply means going to a website, that opens the door for ANYONE to jailbreak without really understanding what they're doing.

If they really wanted to stop jail breaking altogether, they could start bricking phones again.
 
Apple have the right to void the warranty if the phone gets a jailbreak, just like GM can void a warranty on engine if anything is used but DexCool antifreeze in a GM vehicle. That is fine... But GM can't tell me what I can and can't put in my car just Apple Shouldn't be able to tell you what Apps you can and can't put on your phone. It's your phone. if it voids your warranty that is your choice, shouldn't be Apples.

Apple also has the right to secure their platform against malicious code.

Jailbreaks and Malicious code use the same points of entry into your system and do their business. If you lock out one, you lock out the other. Apple can either close the security hole and break the jailbreak, or let the jailbreak exist and give malicious programmers a route in (once they understand the jailbreak at the latest).

It's not really one of those situations where we win in one of the cases. We lose either way... and honestly, I'd rather lose the jailbreak than have a phone with known exploits.
 
A jailbreak is an exploit. It is a security flaw. It is in Apple's (and our) best interests to fix these holes.

Complaining about how it breaks jailbreaking is simply ignorance.
 
Correct me if I am wrong, but since Jailbreaking has been deemed legal, shouldn't it be illegal for Apple to prevent the rooting of its devices?

Sounds messed up, in my opinion.

Apple isn't stopping the jailbreak. The jailbreak uses security exploits in iOS. When a jailbreak is out, Apple knows about these holes and closes them. No one in the right mind would leave them opened (unless you are a 2G owner :p). It has nothing to do with jailbreaking.
 
The only reason they patched this so fast is because the jailbreaking site effectively publicized a very serious security flaw that could have been exploited by people with bad intentions. Normally they don't issue small patches just to block jailbreaking.

Well, the same vulnerability was in Safari 5.0 and patched with 5.0.1. So it was already fixed. They only had to repackage for iOS and release it separately from 4.1. A lot less work than investigating a tricky bug from scratch.
 
What exactly is a car manufacturer going to do to prevent people from modding their cars?


Computer guys need to stop using car analogies, or use your computer to google Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act. As stated, it's entertaining :D

To answer the above, nothing nor will 9.9 "mods" out of 10 do anything to your warrenty and will never void it. At most, you will get denied work if they prove whatever you did casued the failure on that part.
 
It is a continuos battle between Apple and jailbreakers...

Correct me if I am wrong, but since Jailbreaking has been deemed legal, shouldn't it be illegal for Apple to prevent the rooting of its devices?

Sounds messed up, in my opinion.

This is an ongoing and never-ending battle between Apple and the jailbreak community. Do a search for threads in previous years and it is the same revolving effort by both to try to one up the other. I agree, however, that Apple is doing us all justice in securing loop holes in security that otherwise could be a potential for hackers to be able to harm our phones and ultimately steal our information.
 
Exactly! But do they try to stop you from modding it? my point

You need to refer back to the corrected GM analogy of a problem with the brake system.

For this instance of the most recent Apple update, Apple closed a security hole that allowed not JUST jailbreaking, but any type of malicious software to be installed. It was a security flaw that could have been exploited for potentially good (jailbreak) and potentially bad (see: Android wallpaper hack).

Now let's say hypothetically that there WAS a security flaw that could only be exploited to put a jailbreak on, perhaps THEN Apple could be in the wrong. But I think this is comparable to modding, say, a game system and the maker of the system updating the software to prevent it from being modded for use that the maker didn't intend for it to be used for.

Besides, you don't HAVE to update your firmware anyway, so what's the big deal?
 
Who cares. Don't update the phone. Stop spending so much time modding your phone and get a life. Sure, it's cool and very geeky but it's just a phone. Get over it.
 
They can block any security hole they want. The ruling doesn't mean they have to build a device full of security holes.
 
None unless Apple make a car and the company is ran by Hitler, I mean Steve Jobs.

Can you explain to me why apple should leave safari and pdf vulnerabilities wide open just so jailbreakers can do their thing?
 
None unless Apple make a car and the company is ran by Hitler, I mean Steve Jobs.

Sorry, I should have been more clear. I was saying your car analogy sucks because even if a car manufacturer did want to prevent modding of their vehicles, it is virtually impossible for them to do so, therefore the fact that none apparently do is meaningless.

I think you will find that, more often than not, consumer electronics companies in Apple's position have done exactly the same thing. Even certain Android devices aren't allowed to install newer and unmodified versions of the OS. Game console manufacturers have done the same thing to prevent running unauthorized software.
 
The thing about this is that Apple is fast to patch anything jailbreak related, but they're twiddling their thumbs on the proximity sensor issue.

Show Apple how someone could use your proximity sensor issue to hack your phone and cause it to send out all your personal info while continuously dialing 1-900 numbers, racking up charges, and I'm sure you will find it fixed just as fast.

Exactly! But do they try to stop you from modding it? my point
It's pretty impossible to stop physical modifications to a car. However, they do try to lock up their electronic brains.

Also, as someone said, we need to stop the car analogies - analogies can only be taken so far until it just becomes a proof of being anal.
 
Technically it was.

A jailbroken iPhone was fine, but JailbreakING opened you up to possible DMCA lawsuits.

There was never a precedent set for jailbreaking either way. The new ruling removed the ambiguity and stated that it is legal.
 
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