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Waiting for Broadwell MBP Thread

Is it true the 13 inch Haswell models still experience UI lag? I'm most likely going to use it in the slighter higher res scaled modes, will this make the lag even worse? I read Mavericks improved this but then there's the occasional thread here that says something to the contrary, which is why I somewhat feel uneasy about how this machine will cope in 3-4 years time. Any current owners have any experience with this? Thanks!
 
dj95 said:
Is it true the 13 inch Haswell models still experience UI lag? I'm most likely going to use it in the slighter higher res scaled modes, will this make the lag even worse? I read Mavericks improved this but then there's the occasional thread here that says something to the contrary, which is why I somewhat feel uneasy about how this machine will cope in 3-4 years time. Any current owners have any experience with this? Thanks!
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I have the same concern.. Anyone?
 
The Leafs Fan said:
Well the Broadwell update will be significant regarding graphics for the 13-inch as it will probably get GT3e graphics, which is an improvement on the GT3 graphics currently found in the 13-inch. As well, Broadwell is expected to bring up to a 40% improvement over Haswell in the graphics department.
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Is that true, how can you be so sure about that?
I´ll definitely wait for the Broadwell chip if there is a significant update in the graphics department to be expected since I want to use my Laptop at least for some gaming.
 
sewersurfer said:
Is that true, how can you be so sure about that?
I´ll definitely wait for the Broadwell chip if there is a significant update in the graphics department to be expected since I want to use my Laptop at least for some gaming.
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Specific numbers are all speculation, but you don't need any hard data to see that Intel is on an aggressive push to make the dGPU obsolete in everything except the dedicated "gaming laptop." Each generation of Intel CPU for some time now has come with a significant upgrade in iGPU performance, and Broadwell will not be an exception.
 
Do you guys think that in 3 or 4 years because of the gpu haswell will have slight problems running regular OSX graphics smoothly then?
 
psik said:
Do you guys think that in 3 or 4 years because of the gpu haswell will have slight problems running regular OSX graphics smoothly then?
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osx like normal stuff like word and safari , i highly doubt that , running games in 3 or 4 years probably will have slight problems , but osx is going to be fine , you can use a core 2 duo decently well still with light tasks
 
i would love to see gt4e?.. on the 13 but it seems as if apple only wants to put it on the high end discrete model...which makes no sense to me...but what do i know

:)
 
Sifinity said:
osx like normal stuff like word and safari , i highly doubt that , running games in 3 or 4 years probably will have slight problems , but osx is going to be fine , you can use a core 2 duo decently well still with light tasks
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Hope so too then...
 
Did you guys ever workes with Latex on a MacBook Air 13 inch? Is it a good idea or should I better consider a MacBook Pro Retina 13 or 15 inch model? I want to use a Editor like Texmaker where I can type on the left sight and see the output on the right side. I am know sure if there is enough space for that since the resolution is not that high?

I want to write down my notes in the university library with help of latex, matlab, Inkscape and some programs for windows (would install parallels).

I don't have any MacBooks with Latex to test thats why I need your help with your experience.

Thank you
 
PutItAway said:
Did you guys ever workes with Latex on a MacBook Air 13 inch? Is it a good idea or should I better consider a MacBook Pro Retina 13 or 15 inch model? I want to use a Editor like Texmaker where I can type on the left sight and see the output on the right side. I am know sure if there is enough space for that since the resolution is not that high?

I want to write down my notes in the university library with help of latex, matlab, Inkscape and some programs for windows (would install parallels).

I don't have any MacBooks with Latex to test thats why I need your help with your experience.

Thank you
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I wrote my end of year research dissertation a few weeks ago on a 2010 2.4 GHz core2duo with 4Gb of RAM, I used LateX, it worked absolutely fine, I'd have no doubt the current batch of faster macbook airs would be able to handle the same program far better.
 
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Mavericks UI is fine on Iris, no lag.

Yosemite Dev 1 was clunky. I did not update past the first dev release. I've got it on an drive somewhere and could update it to see if its better now.
 
I still experience UI lag on my two-month-old 13" rMBP (2.8i7/16/512) running Yosemite beta. FWIW, I noticed the same lag on Mavericks. It's disconcerting ... so much so that I'm thinking of going back to a QC MBP.
 
Ars Technica Broadwell Article (http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...tels-low-power-core-m-and-its-14nm-process/3/)

Now that we've heard a bit more about Core M, we can fill in further gaps in our knowledge about the rest of the Broadwell lineup. Intel says that Broadwell chips are five percent faster, on average, than Haswell chips running at the same clock speed. This IPC gain isn't mind-blowing, but it's not bad given that Broadwell is a refinement of Haswell and not an all-new architecture.

Speed gains in higher-end chips are more likely to come from clock speed increases enabled by the switch to 14nm, as well as the improved CPU and GPU clock speed scaling that the Core M chips benefit from. Intel is promising performance gains from Core M despite halving the TDP of its Haswell-based predecessor, so clearly there's room to increase performance a fair amount while keeping power usage roughly the same (more likely in desktop parts) and to increase performance a little while reducing power usage (more likely in laptop and U-series processors).

We can also assume that Broadwell's integrated GPUs will be stratified in much the same way that Haswell's were. They'll all share the same basic architecture and API support, but higher-end CPUs and chips with higher TDPs will be able to be paired with more powerful GPUs. The GPU with the Core M will likely be on the lower end of the spectrum, while quad-core desktop and laptop CPUs will be the most likely candidates for a new high-end Iris Pro chip. Some socketed Broadwell desktop CPUs will actually get to use Iris Pro GPUs this time around—the only Haswell CPUs that can use Iris Pro 5200 are soldered to the motherboard, and socketed desktop chips are saddled with slower HD 4000-series GPUs.
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apfelmann said:
I have no issues on my ipad 3 :D
Still runs like a champ
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I have to disagree regarding UI lag on ipad 3. It is definitely laggy compared to later versions. I am still using mine but when I pick up my daughters mini retina it is a night and day difference. Depends what you are doing with it perhaps.
 
plusnq said:
I have to disagree regarding UI lag on ipad 3. It is definitely laggy compared to later versions. I am still using mine but when I pick up my daughters mini retina it is a night and day difference. Depends what you are doing with it perhaps.
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Agree there. Even my husband's iPad2 is snappier than my iPad3. I don't have to be doing much at all, running Mailbox and Safari can be enough to either lag or just crash for no good reason.
Good to hear (back on topic!) that the newer GPU are working well.
 
ipad 3 has no lag issues on iOS 6 but the latest one is quite slow...sold mine for 250 and paid 300$ for it 2 years ago cant complain

got the iPad air for 350$ brand new sealed
 
1nfinity0nhigh said:
This article http://www.itpro.co.uk/mobile/22111/intel-broadwell-release-date-specs says Intel's CEO promised Broadwell chips by this holiday season. Do you think we'll see Broadwell rMBPs by November? Also, do you think they'll come with nVidia 850m's?
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have even read through this thread? it literally answers your question , no your not going to see new rMB's till at least next March or So , broad well will be released but thats the lower power versions the ones the rMB needs will be released sometime next year


the retina's were just updated like on the 29th of July , don't hope for anything this year
 
Sifinity said:
have even read through this thread? it literally answers your question , no your not going to see new rMB's till at least next March or So , broad well will be released but thats the lower power versions the ones the rMB needs will be released sometime next year


the retina's were just updated like on the 29th of July , don't hope for anything this year
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I think March might be pushing it a bit, I think it'll probably be released in February.
 
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