Nope, measure at the very top where the bump is and it won't be that thin. Just one of the little tricks they like to use.
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Nope, measure at the very top where the bump is and it won't be that thin. Just one of the little tricks they like to use.
7.1mm at its' thickest point - still slimmer than the iPhone.
I'm guessing Apple have realised that their claim during the keynote was a load of rubbish because it doesn't claim to be the thinnest smartphone in the world on the Apple website.
7.1mm at its' thickest point - still slimmer than the iPhone.
I'm guessing Apple have realised that their claim during the keynote was a load of rubbish because it doesn't claim to be the thinnest smartphone in the world on the Apple website.
So it's not 6.5 as they claim. I wasn't arguing the fact that it was thinner or thicker than iPhone, simply that it wasn't 6.5mm. They never measure the actual thickest part of the phone.
Every single year since the original iphone was released, i jailbroke/unlocked and sold my old phone on ebay for more than the new one cost. I'm doing the same this year. I don't understand why anyone would ever wait, when money can actually be made by upgrading?
That's true, certainly with iOS it's been very much an evolution. But the 3GS to 4 was an entirely new design. Some people preferred the feel of the 3G with it's curved back and edges, even if the 4-5 is nicer in terms of materials and aesthetics.
On the iPhone 6, I'd like to see a return to the rounded back of the 3G, only thinner and with nicer materials.
iOS on the other hand, is so fast and stable now, I don't really get why people have a problem with it. No, it doesn't have widgets, (battery hogs). Yes you can do much more with Android, in terms of customization. But how much time do you really want to spend d*cking around with settings on your phone?
No they technically did not lie. The oppo finder has a big bump for the camera. All the supposedly thin phones have bumps of thicker parts somewhere. Gets complicated determining how thick a phone is. Measured at thickest point, iPhone 5 is the thinnest. Otherwise the MacBook Air with its wedge shape could claim to be much thinner than it is.
Read the rest of the thread before calling me out on something. The Oppo Finder is still only 7.1mm at its' thickest point - making it slimmer than the new iPhone.
The iPhone 5 is not the thinnest and Apple knows it - that's why they don't make such a claim on their website. They probably realised they were wrong or knew they were lying in the first place.
I don't think we'll see round backs again because they won't be able to pack in the electronics as efficiently. With thinness becoming so important they won't risk wasting any space in the chassis.
If Apple built an NFC payment system into the iPhone I'm sure they could wrangle a cut of transactions made using it somehow.
Except that Apple will not make a NFC payment system. Here's a little news: Retailers don't want a NFC payment system, Bankers do, Techies do, but retailers don't. Why? Because it does not sole any problem for them. They don't see anyone coming into their store saying that "I'd buy that but I left my card at home." Does not happen.
Apple has already crafted THEIR payment system and it's called Easy Pay. Want to see it? It's in operation at Apple stores. That's where it's being tested. That's where it's being perfected. It was designed by a retailer to solve the problems of retailers. It does not require you to enter the world of NFC and NFC tags, it uses the UPC codes already on your products. It also is directed to the main problem that retailers want to address, cost reduction.
Less labor cost, Lower cost of sales, Marketing advantage allowing lower marking costs. It also brings along millions of customers that have already provided their payment data, it's called the Apple id. It requires very little change in your store ( a back room server and wifi that you'll be installing anyway).
Oh and one more thing: Apple can SELL it to retailers and then SELL access to US as potential customers and then charge a transaction charge when we use it.
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OK so I have just appointed you head of iPhone design: What do you ADD to the phone we don't have now. How do you make it "magical" again.
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Last time I checked it was the consumers who bought these devices, not retailers. As a consumer I don't want to log into my Apple ID every time I make a purchase. No thanks. Simply holding my phone to a POS terminal is easier.
Well you have not used easy pay. It is easy! No login is required. It's located in the App and you do it once when you install the app. They know it's you because they can detect your phone and it ID's.
Here's some more news for you, Retailers don't care what you want. They care what they want. the problems that they want to solve are theirs. They do not want to be buying "POS terminals" for a group of people who can not make up their mind. Who wants to change their hardware every time someone thinks that their way is the next new thing. Sorry I work with these people every day and I can tell you NFC will not happen as a payment system.
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You're right, I haven't used it. I read the pocket-lint review of it, which said that you have to login to purchase items.
Funny you should say that retailers don't care what consumers want, seeing as McDonalds, Starbucks, Post Office, Caffe Nero, and a bunch of other chains already have NFC terminals rolled out before a smartphone payment system even exists here in the UK.
Ever heard of contact less payment? That was the last great idea from the card providers. Retailers spent MILLIONS to put in new card readers. It actually does solve a real retail problem. NO ONE USES IT. Now card provers are acting like they never even offered it. And then they want to sell NFC. Sorry once burned, never again. Sure some retailers with large pockets have conducted some experiments,
that's what they do. But think about what you said, They rolled it out before it's even exists, does that sound like anyones full solution?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but I thought contactless payments and NFC were the same technology. My phone certainly tries to read my contactless debit card when I hold it to my phone, but it doesn't know what to do with it. That indicates that there's an NFC chip within my debit card.
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There is every reason to believe that the next iPhone will look the same. This, by the way, IS a fresh new design.
There is every reason to believe that the next iPhone will look the same. This, by the way, IS a fresh new design.
They are a similar type of technology in that they attempt to do a similar thing. The fact that your phone which has NFC can not read the contactless chip shows that they are different in how they work. 2 different standards.
Contactless came about to solve a real problem. The problem is that mag stripes degrade over time (and can be erased) until they do not work anymore. Then you have a customer in front of you, ready to buy and you can not complete the transaction. That's a real problem. But most people do not care. They are happy just swiping the card. So it has not been used, and now we see card providers backing off. NFC looks to solve what you seem to want, to not have to use a card at all (and maybe not even carry one). This is not in fact a real problem for retailers. In a way you have made my point for me, you see them as one and the same, yet we know that contactless has not worked. So why would anyone want to do the thing that has not worked over in a different way.
By the way I stand corrected about the not having to log in when using Easy Pay, I had forgotten that. But that shows the difference between what you think customers want and what retailers want. They deffently do not want a system where you can make a purchase just by having a phone. That opens up real risks of fraud and leads to a ugly word in retail- chargebacks. They would love a log in required system.
I raised all of this not to discuss the tech details and motivations of retailers but to make the point in this thread that is being discussed, That there are reasons that Apple does what it does in the iPhone. They have not added NFC, not because they can't but because they do not want to. It is not of use to THEM. They see no compelling value to their customers. It leads to a place that is not in their best interests (or their customers if you ask them).
Apple does not want to build the super phone. They want to build the best as they see that. It's not a spec sheet, no Apple product is. That is what makes Apple -well Apple.
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Why does it have to be only traditional retailers though? I've seen NFC being used in various vending and/or automated machines in China, for example they have small coupon stations where you can swipe your phone and get discounts. Shanghai alone had over 6,000 merchant terminals equipped with NFC, for example in convenience stores where the technology can easily be updated or switched out.
Holy smokes! This never ceases to amaze me...the waiters. Are you kidding me?? If you want the phone, buy it...what in the heck could you possibly be waiting on?Is it me or does the hype for iPhone 5 seem muted compared to previous releases? While most would agree that this is an incremental upgrade, the new A6 processor is most welcome. Ives, on the other hand, really phoned it in this time. (Pun intended)
What we're waiting for is a fresh new design. Some have speculated Apple will be making use of their "liquid metal" technology to produce something curved like a 3G. Personally I find that model much more pleasant to hold.
I'm looking forward to being amazed all over again by the iPhone 6.
Also, just a note to all who think waiting is some great money saving strategy;
HEY GENIUSES, THIS JUST IN...WHEN THE NEW IPHONE IS ANNOUNCED, SELL YOUR CURRENT MODEL AND VOILA, YOU HAVE CASH TO FUND YOUR NEW MODEL!
Sometimes I wonder if people are living under a rock...the lack of resourcefulness is mind boggling, to say the least.
Like I said, money is not the issue. I make a distinction between wants and needs, and buy my toys accordingly.
Congratulations on selling your phone and upgrading with each release. May it bring you peace and happiness, at least until the next update...
This thread is about the iPhone 6 and what we hope to see. I could care less about people flipping iPhones on eBay or wherever.