Waiting for Macbook 2016. is it worth it?

[theberto]

Hi, I was thinking about buying a new laptop, I need it for my university so I need something light and easy to carry around with a good battery. I will use it basically for the Adobe suite, in particular: Photoshop, illustrator,Indesign and some Premiere and after effects.
So I was thiking about the Macbook pro 15" (2015) in the configuration with the 2,5Ghz i7 cpu, 512 Gb PCIe and AMD Radeon R9 M370X.
But I was reading on the internet that next year Apple will relase the new Macbook generation which will proably have the new Skylake processors.
What do you think would be the best laptop for me? they suggested me also the Dell XPS 15, what do you think about that?
would you suggest me to wait for the Skylake processors?
Thank you!

 

[mcnallym]

Main thing that Skylake will bring will be TB3/USB-C connectors. the iGPU as using external is immaterial. Isn't going to bring radical improvement in Battery Life or CPU grunt. Doesn't look anything on your list that ties you to OSX so really no reason ( other then want ) to limit to Apple.

Who are the they that suggested the Dell XPS 15. If was the University then probably worth considering

 

[2984839]

I doubt you'll reach the limits of that laptop's capabilities, so waiting makes no sense to me. If anything, wait until the new ones come out, then buy the one you're currently considering at a discount.

 

[theberto]

Main thing that Skylake will bring will be TB3/USB-C connectors. the iGPU as using external is immaterial. Isn't going to bring radical improvement in Battery Life or CPU grunt. Doesn't look anything on your list that ties you to OSX so really no reason ( other then want ) to limit to Apple.

Who are the they that suggested the Dell XPS 15. If was the University then probably worth considering

the they were actually some ppl on an Italian forum that I visited, they said that the skylake version of the XPS was way better than the Macbook pro. I've never had a Macbook so I am windows friendly and I really don't care about the Mac vs Windows issue. I just wanted a good machine that could last for many years. I had many windows laptop and they were likely to not last long. And also the XPS is really expansive (about 2500$) so I was worried that even that one could have had problems in the future (I don't know If that sentence was grammatically correct lol)

I doubt you'll reach the limits of that laptop's capabilities, so waiting makes no sense to me. If anything, wait until the new ones come out, then buy the one you're currently considering at a discount.

Actually I already have a 300$ discount student thanks to my uni so that's not a big problem

 

[UltimaKilo]

Wait for Cannonlake.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

Main thing that Skylake will bring will be TB3/USB-C connectors. the iGPU as using external is immaterial. Isn't going to bring radical improvement in Battery Life or CPU grunt. Doesn't look anything on your list that ties you to OSX so really no reason ( other then want ) to limit to Apple.

Who are the they that suggested the Dell XPS 15. If was the University then probably worth considering

Disagree.

Skylake CPU will consume much lesser energy than predecessors, could be a chance to have the first MBP with much longer battery-time. And less heat problems either.

BUT… I doubt that apple´s "leaders" will make their customers get ergonomic profit on it.
Instead, they will melt down size of MBP and particularly the battery by some ridiculous millimeters - since some years they don´t care about customers, they obey exclusively their fetish "thin- thinner - apple" whatever it will cost…

Another problem could be the new-born fetish to reduce the ports nearly to zero (have a look at MP 12") .

For shure, the 2016 MBP will have the "new keyboards" of the nMB and also Force-touch pad. Time will tell if this is more like a bug or a feature (look at negative experiences with it on MB 12").
As is with the every-year changing OSX coming out with more and more bugs… (banana-product).

a windows-based Notebook like the above-mentioned Dell or multiple others gives you much more choice (and sufficient ports) and you can modify/repair much more and put in 3rd party products without any problems.... (for example cheaper RAM, cheaper and bigger SSDs,…) - and the display of the Dell is told to be one of the best you can get on Notebooks…. as is told their keyboard!

 

[navaira]

Banana-product?

One of the reasons I went for this year's laptop is that I see the trend of changes and I dislike all of them except Retina display. I like ports. I like keyboard with travel. I don't need force touch (although I have a strong feeling Apple will make some options in 10.12 or 10.13 accessible ONLY with force/3D touch so that we have to upgrade whether we want to or not, like usual). Which doesn't stop me from watching the developments with great interest. Apple is the leader in the market and 90% vendors will go wherever Apple goes.

 

[maflynn]

But I was reading on the internet that next year Apple will relase the new Macbook generation which will proably have the new Skylake processors.
What do you think would be the best laptop for me? they suggested me also the Dell XPS 15, what do you think about that?

Apple will release the new laptops sometime in 2016, though no one knows for sure when. If you can wait, your patience will be rewarded.

As for the Dell XPS 15, that's a fine looking machine and if you're used to windows or have a need for a windows machine, I don't think you can go wrong. I think the MBP is a better machine overall, but don't discount the XPS 15.

 

[theberto]

Wait for Cannonlake.

what's cannon lake?

Banana-product?

One of the reasons I went for this year's laptop is that I see the trend of changes and I dislike all of them except Retina display. I like ports. I like keyboard with travel. I don't need force touch (although I have a strong feeling Apple will make some options in 10.12 or 10.13 accessible ONLY with force/3D touch so that we have to upgrade whether we want to or not, like usual). Which doesn't stop me from watching the developments with great interest. Apple is the leader in the market and 90% vendors will go wherever Apple goes.

yea, I like port as well, I hope they won't reduce the ports on the next mbp, which is supposed to be a top machine so why remove ports? anyway, I think I'll wait and if I don't like the upgrade I will proabbly go on the 2015 model

 

[bniu]

what's cannon lake?

That's the successor to SkyLake (or there might be another one in between that Intel inserted). For me, I already have a late 2013 Haswell based 15" MBP, so I'm not going to buy what is just another Haswell based MBP. Since I maxed out all the specs last time, I think I will hold off until a future model offers 32GB ram and 2TB of flash storage. Currently, my rMBP 15 is doing just fine blazing through anything I throw at it.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

Banana-product?

Banana-products = Products thrown on the market although not mature yet.
Will growing mature step-by-step (like a banana) AFTER purchase as time goes by in the hands of the poor customer who has to deal with bugs, inconveniences, spending time with customer service, and so on…

 

[maflynn]

what's cannon lake?

Next gen chipset after Skylake

which is supposed to be a top machine so why remove ports? anyway, l

Because that's what apple does. They have removed ports in the MBP in the past, so I will not be surprised if they do it for the 2016 model. In fact, I expect them to make the newer laptop thinner and with less ports.

 

[theberto]

I expect them to make the newer laptop thinner and with less ports.

yes, I am afraid of that as well =(

 

[Max(IT)]

Hi, I was thinking about buying a new laptop, I need it for my university so I need something light and easy to carry around with a good battery. I will use it basically for the Adobe suite, in particular: Photoshop, illustrator,Indesign and some Premiere and after effects.
So I was thiking about the Macbook pro 15" (2015) in the configuration with the 2,5Ghz i7 cpu, 512 Gb PCIe and AMD Radeon R9 M370X.
But I was reading on the internet that next year Apple will relase the new Macbook generation which will proably have the new Skylake processors.
What do you think would be the best laptop for me? they suggested me also the Dell XPS 15, what do you think about that?
would you suggest me to wait for the Skylake processors?
Thank you!

I think we are going to see new MacBook Pros in the first quarter of 2016, so I would wait a couple of months more.
Skylake won't be revolutionary, but surely will be better than an already outstanding product.

Main thing that Skylake will bring will be TB3/USB-C connectors. the iGPU as using external is immaterial. Isn't going to bring radical improvement in Battery Life or CPU grunt. Doesn't look anything on your list that ties you to OSX so really no reason ( other then want ) to limit to Apple.

Who are the they that suggested the Dell XPS 15. If was the University then probably worth considering

There is a good reason to limit to Apple: they are better notebooks with a better OS (and they can run Windows if you need it). Why to settle for an inferior product ?

 

[navaira]

yes, I am afraid of that as well =(

That's why I decided not to wait and bought a laptop now...

 

[Max(IT)]

yes, I am afraid of that as well =(

The MacBook Pro isn't an Air nor a 12" MacBook. Maybe they are going to change some ports (like TB3 instead of TB2 or USB-C instead of USB), but I don't think they are going to lose connectivity on the MacBook Pro.
Last iMacs and Mac Pro hadn't less ports than previous models.

 

[Mcmeowmers]

You won't come close to maxing out this laptop. It's way over powered for hat you need.
If money doesn't matter then go for it, otherwise you're overspending if you're also considering the Dell.
(Ignoring personal preference of OS X vs Windows)

 

[dogslobber]

Wait for Cannonlake.

Agree, or wait until the second generation 10nm chip after that do they can shake out the cannon lake bugs.

 

[theberto]

Agree, or wait until the second generation 10nm chip after that do they can shake out the cannon lake bugs.

when do you think will be avalaible the cannolake gen ?

 

[Matt Leaf]

If its an internals upgrade, processor wise, then it will just be a quiet update without any fanfair. It is possible this could happen in Feb or March. But if a redesign is on the cards then I don't think we will see anything till WWDC and a fully-fledged announcement with video reveals etc.

A redesign may well bring significant new cost however. You will see the 'previous gen MacBooks' still available, possibly at 100 or 200 dollars less. But the new Macbook Pro redesign, whatever it is, will be sure to have your wallet for lunch.

 

[maflynn]

when do you think will be avalaible the cannolake gen ?

I think 2017 maybe a bit later. Beyond the time frame that I think its feasible to wait, but that's just me.

 

[MrDLai]

Main thing that Skylake will bring will be TB3/USB-C connectors. the iGPU as using external is immaterial. Isn't going to bring radical improvement in Battery Life or CPU grunt. Doesn't look anything on your list that ties you to OSX so really no reason ( other then want ) to limit to Apple.

Who are the they that suggested the Dell XPS 15. If was the University then probably worth considering

I previously read somewhere else that skylake will enable the system to push 5k monitors? If i want to be able to connect my future mbp to a 5k monitor should I wait for 2016 then?

 

[Samuelsan2001]

I previously read somewhere else that skylake will enable the system to push 5k monitors? If i want to be able to connect my future mbp to a 5k monitor should I wait for 2016 then?

Yes.

Although you may get the current one to push a 5K screen using 2 mini display port cables you can't currently do it using just one cable.

 

[MrAverigeUser]

I previously read somewhere else that skylake will enable the system to push 5k monitors? If i want to be able to connect my future mbp to a 5k monitor should I wait for 2016 then?

Yes.

Although you may get the current one to push a 5K screen using 2 mini display port cables you can't currently do it using just one cable.

YES - a nice alternative could be: Just stay with your "old" MBP and buy a second-hand MacPro. Put in a cheap GTX 760 GPU OC ( more powerful than any Notebook GPU and with 2x mini display ports) and you have a redundant second system ready for 5k Monitors aside your MBP for about the same money you´d pay to "upgrade" on 2016 MBP… ;-)

 

[MrDLai]

Yes.

Although you may get the current one to push a 5K screen using 2 mini display port cables you can't currently do it using just one cable.

Thanks - aside from needing to plug in two cables instead of one, are there any other functional difference? Also, from what I researched the ports will support sound as well right?