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That was for 10 days in September which happen to be the 10 days including launch day. I would venture to guess that the iPhones largest sales are within the first week or so of launch. The next few months will tell the true story, IMO.

I read the article which is being referred to.

The author disputes true statements about worldwide trends in Android adoption by citing a single data point which is restricted to a single market.

As you say, we need several data points in order to establish a trend.
 
Great if you only talk 1 hour and 40 minutes a MONTH.

I was thinking about the 5c in White.

Then I played around with the 5s in White.

Got the 5s in White off contract and did the $30 t-mobile unlimited data/text and 100 min of talk.

Total over 2 years:

$690 - Unlocked 5s + tax
$384 - Year 1 Contract at $30 + tax
$384 - Year 2 Contract at $30 + tax
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$1457 - Total

Other contracts at T-Mobile, AT&T, etc...minimum is $1890

Savings of $433 = iPad Retina Mini.

:)
 
Buy an Otterbox Defender-problem solved.

I was considering grabbing a 5c when the 5S was impossible to buy for a while. But I just couldnt come to grips with any of the colors.
The pink and yellow are right out. Ick.
The blue and green are just a shade too bright, without being saturated?
Which leaves the white which just screams dirt magnet to me.
(ever own a white car?)
It kind of reminds me of certain Toyota and Subaru models that only come in yucky colors.
Sure it's only a color, but since I have to live with it for a while, I get picky.
So I held out for space gray.
Being a stodgy old gen x-er I pretty much wear grey and black anyway.
 
I think they should have not colour matched the buttons on the 5C and it would have looked much much nicer. Ive dropped the ball on those colour matched buttons
 
I don't appreciate your condescending response.

If the phone was selling so well they wouldn't offer a discount.

Hence the sales aren't doing well. Got that?

End thread. (Slams the door)

those two things are not necessarily linked. I hope you didn't hurt your hand too much when you slammed it in that door. ;)

there are some retailers that offer discounts from the start on items. that is the retailer's way of getting you into their store.
 
Huh? :rolleyes: You don't discount things that are selling without issue at the current price point. Why would you voluntarily reduce your profits for no reason?

if your competition reduced the price then they are forcing your hand. Companies sell things at a loss all the time to get you to buy other stuff. Ever hear of amazon?
 
Something that is selling well is selling well. #correlationVersusCausation

BTW, in capitalist systems you want to have the lowest price so folks buy from your store versus another. Retailers are competing with each other (including Apple Store) and they are also competing against the iPhone 5s (which they don't have in decent supply). Given the fact that the report I linked shows the iPhone 5c is selling well then it must simply be selling well directly through Apple or through carriers. These retailers want to make their numbers too, but until Apple starts shipping them quantities of iPhone 5s, they have to sell what they can get (iPhone 5c).

Apple also benefits from each iOS device sale in many ways other than initial purchase revenue. Every new iOS device owner will have free access to Apple's iCloud / iTunes infrastructure and its benefits. And those benefits are multiplied by each subsequent iOS device purchase. Apple now has a $50 entry-level brand-new iOS device that isn't a 1-year or 2-year old model.

And, of course, the more iCloud / iTunes accounts Apple accumulates, the better for them. As of June 2013, Apple had 575 million active iTunes accounts, with 500,000 new accounts created every day. That gives Apple more leverage than any other competing platform, in whatever future disruptions Apple sees fit to pursue. Especially their "real" television strategy and the contract negotiations it requires.

Sources:
http://www.asymco.com/2013/06/14/whats-an-apple-user-worth/
http://tech.fortune.cnn.com/2013/06/15/apple-algebra-itunes-asymco/
http://bgr.com/2013/06/14/apple-itunes-accounts/
http://thenextweb.com/apple/2013/06/10/apple-announces-575m-itunes-accounts-900000-apps-available-in-the-app-store-10b-paid-to-developers/
 
If the iPhone 5c is doing this well in the USA, it must be doing even better in price-sensitive markets.

It's doing worse, European shoppers aren't buying it because it's still pretty expensive. When the 4s came out it was 629 Euros, the 5 was 679 Euros and now the 5s is 699 Euros. Compare that to the 5c being at 599 Euros and it is way overpriced. Apple is pricing itself out of the European market, especially due to the debt crisis and general frugality most people here aren't buying iPhones.

On a contract though, it is a sweet deal but many people here don't buy phones on contract.
 
Anyone actually gotten this deal? My sister in law is looking to get the 5c, but the Wal-Marts in the area are still claiming it to be $79. Of course when you talk to the associates there they have no clue about the price drop either. Or how to verify if there is one coming soon.
 
those two things are not necessarily linked. I hope you didn't hurt your hand too much when you slammed it in that door. ;)

there are some retailers that offer discounts from the start on items. that is the retailer's way of getting you into their store.

Nope
 
Something that is selling well doesn't need discounts 2 weeks after launch.

#capitalism

Last year the iPhone 5 was sold out for months after release. As soon as stock was available again, we started to see discounts. It's just third-party retailers trying to get people in their stores. That's the capitalism.

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/07/radioshack-target-and-best-buy-offer-deals-on-the-iphone-5/

https://www.macrumors.com/2012/12/09/best-buy-offering-50-off-of-all-iphone-5-models/

Hashtags should be a bannable offense on forums.
 
Yes, the iPhone 5C is LITERALLY identical to the iPhone 5.

Except it doesn't bend when you sit on it.
And it doesn't scratch up as easily.
And it has a new front-facing camera with improved image capture.
And it has a new LTE radio that supports more frequencies on more carriers.
And it has a larger battery.
And it has a selection of uniquely-designed, official cases from Apple.
And it comes in 5 different colors.
And it has a rounded back that many find more pleasing to hold.

But other than that, the iPhone 5C is identical to the iPhone 5.

Literally.

I'll try too:

You're right, it cracks
You haven't seen the display models at apple stores, have you?
new LTE radio that simply combines frequencies from both previous models.
very slightly larger
5 has better, more professional leather cases
5 comes in 2 better looking colors.
That's a matter of opinion.

So....I guess maybe it's easier to hold, for some?

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protip: If walmart has a mobile phone special, check sams club too. Same company obviously, but sams club tends to have better selection of mobile phones. Makes sense since people spend more there. I got 2 iphone 5's last year for my parents for 129 each when they ran that holiday special.
 
Not surprising.

The iPhone 5 has the better materials.

Plus, the iPhone 5C all seem to be girly colors. I suppose that was to match the girly colored iOS 7 look. Why is my music app pink? Seriously, where's the black and the gray colors? :mad:

I'd be fine with pink if it wasn't an ugly icon that doesn't match any of the other icons and has the gradient going the wrong way! Mark my words, once a jailbreak is out, that icon is gonna die.
 
It's doing worse, European shoppers aren't buying it because it's still pretty expensive. When the 4s came out it was 629 Euros, the 5 was 679 Euros and now the 5s is 699 Euros. Compare that to the 5c being at 599 Euros and it is way overpriced. Apple is pricing itself out of the European market, especially due to the debt crisis and general frugality most people here aren't buying iPhones.

On a contract though, it is a sweet deal but many people here don't buy phones on contract.

Source or anecdotes? Where is your "most people" statement coming from? Is it just your gut feeling?
 
Yes, the iPhone 5C is LITERALLY identical to the iPhone 5.

Except it doesn't bend when you sit on it.
And it doesn't scratch up as easily.
And it has a new front-facing camera with improved image capture.
And it has a new LTE radio that supports more frequencies on more carriers.
And it has a larger battery.
And it has a selection of uniquely-designed, official cases from Apple.
And it comes in 5 different colors.
And it has a rounded back that many find more pleasing to hold.

But other than that, the iPhone 5C is identical to the iPhone 5.

Literally.

Now that I think about it, you're correct. A not bending phone, combined with not scratching, and a camera and LTE radio means this is SO much better than the iPhone 5s!

iPhone 5c FTW. The 5s is old hat.
 
Anyone actually gotten this deal? My sister in law is looking to get the 5c, but the Wal-Marts in the area are still claiming it to be $79. Of course when you talk to the associates there they have no clue about the price drop either. Or how to verify if there is one coming soon.

Personally, I wouldn't buy a new smartphone until Black Friday unless I absolutely had to.

All the major manufacturers will have their latest flagship phones out by then and we'll start to see the Holiday discounts.
 
I don't appreciate your condescending response.

If the phone was selling so well they wouldn't offer a discount.

Hence the sales aren't doing well. Got that?

End thread. (Slams the door)

Well. Since he slammed the door, I guess this debate is over. :rolleyes:

Seriously though... Apple isn't offering the discount. The stores that want you to WALK INTO THEIR BRICK & MORTAR locations are the ones offering these discounts. There is a huge difference. I wouldn't be concerned until Apple starts offering the discounts themselves, which they won't because it's selling just fine.

As for all the other trolls... I understand you may have a preference for the 5s over the 5c, or maybe even Android over the 5c, but why not just let it do its own thing in the marketplace? Your personal opinions that are based on wrong assumptions just make you look dumb. It doesn't make Apple look bad at all.
 
If the iPhone 5C was a competively priced product as you maintain, short supply of the 5S should increase demand of the 5C which in turn should reduce the need for discounting, not increase it. You've got it backwards.

Huh? :rolleyes: You don't discount things that are selling without issue at the current price point. Why would you voluntarily reduce your profits for no reason?

I'm pretty sure for die hard Apple fans - which would also be the people lining up on launch week to pick one up, they want the latest and greatest high end model. There's no reason for people to upgrade from a 5 to a 5c, but 5 to a 5s would be a good enough reason for many of us. As it stands now, 5s and 5c cater to two different demographics. That will overlap more in time, but not during the 1st 30 days.

Also, again, retailers discount items to get you in their store. They're not just looking purely at iPhone sales. Once you're in the door, I'm sure they're hoping you'll pick up a case, and maybe even a speaker dock or something to help offset the discounts they're giving you. If not today, then the $50 GC from some retailers will ensure you'll return again. This is proven capitalism/marketing techniques.

I'm a bit surprised they didn't produce a black version. It would look sharper than the white one and from a distance wouldn't look that different from the 3GS or 5. Perhaps they thought more women would buy the 5c. However, the gold and to a lesser extend silver 5s probably have that market covered.

Apple released the 5c phones to match the new iOS 7 designs. Not only that, they're trying to differentiate themselves from the sea of black devices that are currently out there. Like the white earphones, they want people to KNOW, even from far away, when someone is holding an Apple product. Again, marketing through its users.

Sales must be truly horrible for these retailers to give up so much of the selling price. They seem to think it is better to lose a little on each sale than to let their warehouses fill up and lose everything.

See above. This isn't a zero sum scenario. They want you in their doors so you'd pickup accessories along with the phone. They also get a kickback for every new long term contract they get customers to sign. In the end, they're not losing money at all.
 
I'm a guy and I bought the coral pink 5C (it's coral not a true pink) I love it. Moved from a nexus 4. Also the people saying more LTE bands don't matter that's silly. It matters a ton. It means more carriers worldwide I can get LTE on with a local SIM. Sadly many carriers like Bell in Canada don't give prepaid (thus tourists) LTE access.
 
Yes, the iPhone 5C is LITERALLY identical to the iPhone 5.

Except it doesn't bend when you sit on it.
And it doesn't scratch up as easily.
And it has a new front-facing camera with improved image capture.
And it has a new LTE radio that supports more frequencies on more carriers.
And it has a larger battery.
And it has a selection of uniquely-designed, official cases from Apple.
And it comes in 5 different colors.
And it has a rounded back that many find more pleasing to hold.

But other than that, the iPhone 5C is identical to the iPhone 5.

Literally.

Except it is plastic, which is 63 times cheaper than aluminum.
 
They are not the only ones selling it for "$50".

The price in USA is completely out of touch, in Europe and Australia it's just insane.
 
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