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Does this book give adequate treatment to women and people of color who were early pioneers of computing?

There is a woman on the cover.

And a person who is half Syrian.

I'd guess that the book is inclusive, but it should really just deliver on the title, tell us about the innovators. What body parts they have or what color they are is secondary and not really something we should focus on. Time to get past that kind of thinking.
 
TCPIP is a much more important thing than the WWW. The WWW was basically an application of hypercards (popular in the late 1980s) were you network based resources (not just local). So, WWW was a logical extension of existing concepts.

I actually used WWW (based on that crappy implementation, WWW would have gone nowhere!!).

WWW propagation to the masses went :

www (horrible, just good enough as proof of concept)
- 1991 or 1992
Lynx (very good, that one really spread www use to tech community, universities) before images were widespread in web pages.
I used Lynx a lot until late 1995 (because it was much faster to use when on very slow modem connections than anything else out there and web site were text heavy).
- 1993
Mosaic (first stab at graphical interface, pretty buggy as I recall). Didn't like it.
- Late 1994
Netscape, well WOW, now you had the WEB (then Web went BOOM! into t he real world).

Created my first web site in late 1993. Didn't take long :), few minutes in vi.

Interesting, and the point I was trying to make, although I don't have any personal experience of early web implementations. It appears like hypertext can be attributed to Ted Nelson in 1965 according to the Wikipedia entry on HTTP.

Well that's ONE theory amongst many others..

It's not a theory. But what's your theory? :p
 
Hope it's in the same style as Hackers by Steven Levy. Loved that one.

Hackers is a masterpiece, it made me realize I was born during the wrong decade (and made me realize I would've said the same thing anyways).
Do not forget "Where the Wizards Stay up Late" by Hafner which is a gem.
 
Ah, the obligatory politically correct query. Vomit time.

How about just recognizing contributions without questioning gender, race, sexual orientation, country of origin, left-handedness, etc?

Because historically women and people of color were left out of the historical record.

By looking at the historical record one might be inclined to believe that only white men invented anything.

I haven't read the book but if it leaves out Mark Dean, an African American that holds three of the original nine IBM PC patents then the book is quite frankly, worthless.

Mark Dean is/was an IBM Fellow.
 
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'Teamwork' only goes so far. Someone still has to have the original spark, the idea that sparks thoughts in others.

Want to see a committee decision? Look at Windows 8! It's schizophrenic in the way that it looks, and works. I mean, the only thing I could think of after trying to use it was 'Someone at the table had to say 'HELL NO!'' and there wasn't anyone there that did, or apparently could.

Given all of the lore of Jobs, I feel that he probably more than anything had a concept of 'style' that shaped the things Apple put out. Elegance comes to mind too.

Put Sony in charge of the iPod, and, well, look what they came up with for their music players.

But anyway...
 
No, I read the article. But Isaacson simply couldn't resist putting both a picture of Steve Jobs on the cover *AND* and "author of STEVE JOBS". One? Sure... Both? Now it starts to look a little like he holding on to the gravy train. Do you understand now?


Do you understand that most of the time the author has very little contribution into what goes on the actual cover? I am willing to bet (mostly because I have personal ties of people in this industry, and seen it first hand) Issacson had almost zero input in how the cover looked, or even if Steve Jobs was included in the cover.

Heck, my best friend is a published author, and I worked directly with them in helping getting their book ready for a publisher. They had almost zero say in what was going on the cover of the book.

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Who the hell reads anymore? It's 2014 ffs.

I'm willing to be there will be an Audio Book version available not too long after the release of the book. From Audible or some other place.
 
I don't think that was a good book. Well, I mean the writing. It seemed to be well researched and factual. But the writing seemed weak. I though he probably should have attempted to put the events of Steve's life in the context of other otger things happening in the world--especially the world of tech--but he didn't. In the end it amounted mostly to a litany of events... This happened, then this happened, here's an unconnected anecdote, this happened, that happened, here's another anecdote that adds nothing, ...

Hardly the guy I'd look to for this kind of book.

Yeah, I noticed that when I read it. Not bad, but not great.
 
Does this book give adequate treatment to women and people of color who were early pioneers of computing?

OMG do we have to jump into the racist/sexist slop already? It's just possible, and very probable, that because of the period in our history that computers were developed in it was mainly done by white guys, just like our Constitution. Live with it.
 
If it's as insightful, well researched, and comprehensive as his book Einstein: His life and Universe, then this should be a tour de force par excellence.
 
How many chapters does it take to tell the full story of Al Gore's contribution?

he discussed him on his NPR radio segment today. he gave credit where credit was due -- that Gore sponsored a bill to help ensure the internet was for everybody, not just government. which is all he ever claimed. but you knew that.

Here we go again...

Al Gore, Jr's actual quote:
During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet. I took the initiative in moving forward a whole range of initiatives that have proven to be important to our country's economic growth and environmental protection, improvements in our educational system.

It's true Al Gore, Jr. did not claim that he "invented" the Internet; however, his actual quote is patently false as the Internet was created by ARPA before Al Gore, Jr. was even in Congress. So, while not being an outright lie, Al's words were at a politician's typical level of disingenuousness.
 
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Including the most personal computers ever sold (a million before Apple), the first PC debut, and the inventor of the CPU used in Apple and Atari systems might have been considered an "innovation". But alas, nothing in the index. No mention of Chuck Peddle (father of the PC), Commodore, or MOS Technology. :-(

May want to first read the "The Spectacular Rise and Fall of Commodore" aka (in the second edition)
"A Company on the Edge" by Brian Bagnall.

Starts with the invention of the 6502 processor and its accompanying development kit that snarky teens bought and later made into the Apple I, Apple II, Atari 2600, etc. all the way to the drama of a plane crash, an FBI software pirate bust, and how a nonchalant software agreement irked and outwitted a small startup called Microsoft out of millions.
 
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Does this book give adequate treatment to women and people of color who were early pioneers of computing?

I think we were all asking that.

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Here we go again...

Al Gore, Jr's actual quote:

It's true Al Gore, Jr. did not claim that he "invented" the Internet; however, his actual quote is patently false as the Internet was created by ARPA before Al Gore, Jr. was even in Congress. So, while not being an outright lie, Al's words were at a politician's typical level of disingenuousness.

Although Vice-President Gore's phrasing might have been a bit clumsy (and perhaps self-serving), he was not claiming that he "invented" the Internet in the sense of having designed or implemented it, but rather that he was responsible, in an economic and legislative sense, for fostering the development the technology that we now know as the Internet.

To claim that Gore was seriously trying to take credit for the "invention" of the Internet is, frankly, just silly political posturing that arose out of a close presidential campaign. Gore never used the word "invent," and the words "create" and "invent" have distinctly different meanings: the former is used in the sense of "to bring about" or "to bring into existence" while the latter is generally used to signify the first instance of someone's thinking up or implementing an idea.
Read more at http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp#qsBDp6IwhrGyMF3q.99
 
'Teamwork' only goes so far. Someone still has to have the original spark, the idea that sparks thoughts in others.

Want to see a committee decision? Look at Windows 8! It's schizophrenic in the way that it looks, and works. I mean, the only thing I could think of after trying to use it was 'Someone at the table had to say 'HELL NO!'' and there wasn't anyone there that did, or apparently could.

Given all of the lore of Jobs, I feel that he probably more than anything had a concept of 'style' that shaped the things Apple put out. Elegance comes to mind too.

Put Sony in charge of the iPod, and, well, look what they came up with for their music players.

But anyway...

THe key to Job and Apple is * Experience *, when you have an experience, you don't compartementalize it in dozens of seperate specs. Jobs wanted those products to be a part of your life, not be your life.

Which meant, they looked nice, they simplified and augmented your life. You didn't need to learn to appreciate beige and bland and take a course to use a MAC or an ipod.

That's still the key to Apple right now. You see it in the verse ads and in the balanced Iphone Designs.

That's why I laugh at people who are amazed at Apple going into fashion? Who would argue that clothes and accessories are NOT par of people's lives. There's nothing surprising about that, it was predestined that eventually they'd end up there.

Neither, Samsung, Google, Amazon, Microsoft have the background to go there with credibility; it is not part of their genes. If Apple is able to strike hard there; they will differentiate themselves in a profound way from their competition and avoid the commodity trap.
 
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OMG do we have to jump into the racist/sexist slop already? It's just possible, and very probable, that because of the period in our history that computers were developed in it was mainly done by white guys, just like our Constitution. Live with it.

Just plain wrong.
You don't have a clue.....
 
Am I the only one here who actually liked his Jobs book? Best biography I've ever read.

No, you are not alone, I liked it as well. Maybe I am biased though as I have known Walter personally for the past ten years and I am proud to have been a part of several projects and political think tanks with him.

By the way, he uses a Blackberry for what that is worth...
 
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