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Wanna bring your rMB to a screeching halt? Watch the new iPad Pro video.

kfscoll

kfscoll

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Holy mother of God. If you try to watch the new iPad Pro video on Apple's website using Safari on your rMB -- or even if you try to view the iPad Pro's webpage -- it will practically lock up your rMB. Want even more pain? Try to watch it full screen. Holy crap. I wonder if this will improve with El Capitan.

I'm running Safari 9.0, so maybe that's part of the problem, but it's pretty bad regardless.
 
kfscoll said:
Holy mother of God. If you try to watch the new iPad Pro video on Apple's website using Safari on your rMB -- or even if you try to view the iPad Pro's webpage -- it will practically lock up your rMB. Want even more pain? Try to watch it full screen. Holy crap. I wonder if this will improve with El Capitan.

I'm running Safari 9.0, so maybe that's part of the problem, but it's pretty bad regardless.
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I watched it on my rMB using Bootcamp windows 10 no problem except you can only use Edge not IE Explorer
 
kfscoll said:
Holy mother of God. If you try to watch the new iPad Pro video on Apple's website using Safari on your rMB -- or even if you try to view the iPad Pro's webpage -- it will practically lock up your rMB. Want even more pain? Try to watch it full screen. Holy crap. I wonder if this will improve with El Capitan.

I'm running Safari 9.0, so maybe that's part of the problem, but it's pretty bad regardless.
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I'm not seeing that issue. I wouldn't say it's "snappy", but webpage works and iPad Pro video played just fine.

Probably not really a good idea to imply there are issues with the MB when you're using beta software?
 
It played without a problem on an external monitor hooked up to my rMB. But it did take 30 to 40 seconds to load before it started playing. But once it started, no issues.
 
Running El Capitain GM on my 2011 MBA (1.8GHz i7). The iPad Pro web page scrolls very slowly on its top section. Scrolls fine below the first segment.
The video plays without difficulty.

Edit: viewed the page with the Activity Monitor running. Doesn't seem to cause the CPU to spike to full, so there's got to be something else going on with Safari. I'll try it later on my iPad and my fast iMac.
 
kfscoll said:
Holy mother of God. If you try to watch the new iPad Pro video on Apple's website using Safari on your rMB -- or even if you try to view the iPad Pro's webpage -- it will practically lock up your rMB. Want even more pain? Try to watch it full screen. Holy crap. I wonder if this will improve with El Capitan.

I'm running Safari 9.0, so maybe that's part of the problem, but it's pretty bad regardless.
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Just tried on my rMB, worked fine. I already had safari open with 11 tabs, another 1080HD film was playing in the background in Movist (which was streaming via wifi from another computer in the house) and I just clicked on your link.. the page loaded instantly, and then I launched the iPad Pro video and switched it to full screen right away - no delays, no stuttering. It just opened up to fullscreen and happily continued to play. Then the audio from the other movie I was already watching was bothering me, so I used command-tab to switch to Movist and pause playback, then back to safari full screen video again. Everything just worked as it should, with no particular sluggishness.

I'm up to date with all the official releases (the latest OS X, not the beta), latest safari etc. My machine is a 1.3 model but I seriously doubt this is the reason why it worked so well on mine. I just recently got gigabit fibre optic internet with modern wifi standards at my place, so maybe this is why? Maybe the machine just isn't struggling at all to pull down the streams from the internet so it just flows. Could be that your internet connection or your wifi network has some latency or just isn't happy in some way.. that might mean the rMB is overworking to try and get the page up and running.
 
I wouldn't say that either the movie or the web page scroll perfectly smoothly for me - running El Capitan GM - but it hardly grinds it to a halt.
 
It's definitely my version of Safari. It runs much more smoothly if I use Firefox or Chrome. Sorry to alarm anyone if that's what I did.
 
Odd, I have similar behavior as the OP described. I have the 1.1ghz model. Stuttering, cpu to 100% and barley able to force close safari.
 
I tried it with my 2014 base mba 11" and it opened and ran fine. i'll have to test with my base rmb.
 
kfscoll said:
Holy mother of God. If you try to watch the new iPad Pro video on Apple's website using Safari on your rMB -- or even if you try to view the iPad Pro's webpage -- it will practically lock up your rMB. Want even more pain? Try to watch it full screen. Holy crap. I wonder if this will improve with El Capitan.

I'm running Safari 9.0, so maybe that's part of the problem, but it's pretty bad regardless.
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No issues with loading or playback to be honest. Smooth as butter.
 
Running El Capitan on my base model. I have An amazon instant video playing and mac rumors both in safari in split view. I added a tab and loaded the pager it loaded and scrolled like any other page.
 
I think it has to be El Capitan. I had been noticing a laggy, juddery user interface on my rMB under the El Capitan betas and had chalked it up to the rMB being underpowered, but I made the mistake of "upgrading" my MacBook Air to El Capitan GM and it, too, has a laggy, juddery UI. Disappointing, really, but as it's a software issue it can be remediated in due course.

Of course it could partially be the slow CPU. It's interesting that the iPad Pro has many more pixels to push and is as smooth as butter. Apple could tear US$250 out of the cost of an A9X (or A10X)-based Retina MacBook, and probably get much longer battery life, less heat, and smoother performance with many tasks. Wouldn't that be something? This machine at US$999 or US$1099 would be a no-brainer.
 
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Apple's pages at the moment are ridiculous. So many animations and transitions and effects. Just give us the info and show us some pictures, not everything needs to drift about as we scroll down the page.
 
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I think it has to be El Capitan. I had been noticing a laggy, juddery user interface on my rMB under the El Capitan betas and had chalked it up to the rMB being underpowered, but I made the mistake of "upgrading" my MacBook Air to El Capitan GM and it, too, has a laggy, juddery UI. Disappointing, really, but as it's a software issue it can be remediated in due course.

Of course it could partially be the slow CPU. It's interesting that the iPad Pro has many more pixels to push and is as smooth as butter. Apple could tear US$250 out of the cost of an A9X (or A10X)-based Retina MacBook, and probably get much longer battery life, less heat, and smoother performance with many tasks. Wouldn't that be something? This machine at US$999 or US$1099 would be a no-brainer.
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Something is wrong then. El Capitan GM is very very smooth on my rMB 1.2. Much more so than Yosemite.
 
zhenya said:
Something is wrong then. El Capitan GM is very very smooth on my rMB 1.2. Much more so than Yosemite.
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In my case I think the issue came from using a beta version of Safari; the Apple website ran much more smoothly using Chrome or Firefox. And for the brief period of time that I used El Capitan, it seemed to drive the UI much more smoothly than Yosemite. I'm surprised to hear that issues have gotten worse for some users under El Capitan.

And I think the term "butter-smooth" gets thrown around a little loosely. My rMB is the "fastest" 1.3GHz version and while the Apple website runs acceptably quickly using Firefox/Chrome it's not butter-smooth. Running the same websites on my Mac Pro? Now that's butter-smooth.
 
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In my case I think the issue came from using a beta version of Safari; the Apple website ran much more smoothly using Chrome or Firefox. And for the brief period of time that I used El Capitan, it seemed to drive the UI much more smoothly than Yosemite. I'm surprised to hear that issues have gotten worse for some users under El Capitan.

And I think the term "butter-smooth" gets thrown around a little loosely. My rMB is the "fastest" 1.3GHz version and while the Apple website runs acceptably quickly using Firefox/Chrome it's not butter-smooth. Running the same websites on my Mac Pro? Now that's butter-smooth.
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10.11 is still in Beta, and to be frank OS X should be considered Beta until at least the .2/.3 release, for many 10.10 is now only stable at .5 Personally I expect far more of Apple, sadly they have little competition in this arena.

Apple got "fat" and "lazy" on the profits of IOS devices. Thanks to the joke that Microsoft named windows 8, many switched to OS X purely due to Windows 8 being such a mess, Windows 10 corrects much of this issue for the average user. Apple now has no option and must "step up to the plate" or risk a drop-off in the PC space.

nb. OS X is not free, it`s "baked" into the cost of very Mac, and I for one expect it to "just work" from day one...

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I'm running 10.10.5 on a 2012 15" rMBP and the first part of the iPad Pro page runs pretty bad on my machine. Once I get beyond the top image/animation it runs fine. I had nothing else running, only Safari and two other tabs. The Nvidia 650M automatically kicked in when I opened that page, and while it is an old chip I think it's still better than what's in the rMB. If parts of that page are giving a 650M problems, I think it has to be a poorly designed page that requires way too much computing power than it should.
 
Queen6 said:
10.11 is still in Beta, and to be frank OS X should be considered Beta until at least the .2/.3 release, for many 10.10 is now only stable at .5 Personally I expect far more of Apple, sadly they have little competition in this arena.

Apple got "fat" and "lazy" on the profits of IOS devices. Thanks to the joke that Microsoft named windows 8, many switched to OS X purely due to Windows 8 being such a mess, Windows 10 corrects much of this issue for the average user. Apple now has no option and must "step up to the plate" or risk a drop-off in the PC space.

nb. OS X is not free, it`s "baked" into the cost of very Mac, and I for one expect it to "just work" from day one...

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Understood. I used to upgrade to the newest version of OS X on the day it was released, and now I wait until the second point release to upgrade. That said, with the way that Metal has been integrated into El Capitan, many users have been reporting significant UI performance improvements even with the pre-release versions.
 
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I'm running 10.10.5 on a 2012 15" rMBP and the first part of the iPad Pro page runs pretty bad on my machine. Once I get beyond the top image/animation it runs fine. I had nothing else running, only Safari and two other tabs. The Nvidia 650M automatically kicked in when I opened that page, and while it is an old chip I think it's still better than what's in the rMB. If parts of that page are giving a 650M problems, I think it has to be a poorly designed page that requires way too much computing power than it should.
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That's pretty much exactly it. With whatever product, people will find one particular webpage or program that behaves badly and cry that it's completely underpowered. The rest of us understand that's just one particular example usually because of some poor coding and either ignore it, or better yet, press the developers to better optimize their code. That's what happened with Flash, it's what has driven software innovation on mobile, and is finally starting to happen on the general web. I'd much rather push for better coding than force everyone to have computing devices that are way overpowered, thick and heavy with poor battery life because they need to run all this crummy code.
 
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You're viewing it wrong.

No ... seriously. I had the same issue with my system (a 2012 15" cMBP, OS X El Capitan GM Build). Very choppy page. Problem was that I didn't let the whole page finish loading before I started scrolling through its contents. I reloaded the page and then waited until it was finished loading. Then it was "buttery smooth" for me, with no chunks or anything.

It's a problem with how Apple developed the page, IMHO.
 
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Bad coding not hardware related per se since my 2011 MBA i5 plays video and scrolls the page with zero lag although it's a 900p resolution.
 
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