Want to improve performance? Clean install ML

Discussion in 'OS X Mountain Lion (10.8)' started by rangen, Jul 30, 2012.

  1. rangen macrumors regular

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    Last year when Lion came out, I upgraded from SL on day one. Performance was terrible by comparison. Battery life on my MacBook Pro was shocking. A day later I did a clean install, and it solved all my problems.

    This year, I upgraded from Lion to ML, on day one, and although not terrible, performance wasn't the same. Today i've done a clean install, and it is faster and more stable than Snow Leopard or Lion ever was on a clean install.

    Take it as you want, but this is my experience. And I'd advise you to do it.

    (all of the above relates to a 2010 MacBook Pro 2.53 8GB)

    NB: I'm the kind of user who cleans as I go. I keep my Mac in good order constantly, so the upgrade process didn't on either occasion face a challenging, cruft engulfed OS.
     
  2. MarcBook macrumors 6502a

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    I find it interesting that some users find significant improvements when going for a clean install.

    I've opted for an upgrade every time on all 3 MacBook Pros I've had over the years and never had a reduction in performance or any issues. My current Mac has had Snow Leopard, Lion and now Mountain Lion installed via the upgrade path and is running as fast as it was on day one.

    While I don't deny that some people may experience a benefit from using clean installs (for whatever reason), I believe that the majority will have no issues with upgrades.
     
  3. charlieegan3 macrumors 68020

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    I have only noticed improvements in speed after doing an upgrade.
     
  4. freedevil macrumors 6502a

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    I think most people do a clean install and then restore with TM, making it pointless. I just upgraded and every thing is dandy!
     
  5. iwan073 macrumors regular

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    I updated from Lion. But I just did a clean Lion install a few days before.
    Everything runs smooth here
     
  6. progx macrumors regular

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    Mountain Lion has been the best upgrade for my Macbook. My recommendation is to max out your RAM in an older machine.
     
  7. mnsportsgeek macrumors 65816

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    I went with the clean install because I like getting rid of the junk I don't use anymore. I just take my documents and media files with me and the rest is scrapped.
     
  8. nikhsub1 macrumors 68000

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    Upgrading OSes is NEVER a good idea. Clean install is always preferred.
     
  9. blueroom macrumors 603

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    I did a Clean install, old Windows habits die hard.
     
  10. robgendreau macrumors 68030

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    Except by Apple, of course. Probably why they eliminated it as part of their installers ;) .

    I've done both types a whole bunch of times, and I don't think it matters. If you are aware of what is running on your computer, you can sit there and directly compare. The fact that there's some old unused files sitting somewhere doesn't change anything, except for maybe some indexing. And with a clean install you redo Spotlight anyway.

    What I do see is people on this forum who screw up "clean" installs, and since it involves reformatting a drive and relying on a backup that may or may not have some integrity, it's a bit chancy.

    I'll buy the clean install voodoo the day I see someone post the results of software x performing y task before and after the clean install, and seeing it work better.
     
  11. MacDawg macrumors P6

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    Sorry, but I would disagree with this assessment
    I am sure you have your reasons, but many folks, myself included have upgraded their OS with no ill effects or performance degradation whatsoever
     
  12. nikhsub1 macrumors 68000

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    Whatever makes you sleep better i guess. Every time I have done an upgrade (usually out of haste) the machine(s) have run like poop. Once I wiped the drive and performed a clean install they always run much better. Don't buy the hype, Apple has people upgrade because it is EASIER not better. It's funny how they preach restoring iPhones and iPads and setting them up as new (essentially a clean install) but on the desktop OS they make everyone 'upgrade'.
     
  13. Benbikeman macrumors 6502a

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    As freedevil says, almost everyone who does a 'clean install' then uses Time Machine to restore their system, thus putting back all the files they removed ...

    I too will believe in the benefit when I see some upgrade-vs-clean-install benchmarks for the same machine.
     
  14. Lvivske macrumors regular

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    I can't imagine a single legit technical reason a computer would run slower due to an upgrade, or conversely, faster on a clean install

    The logic just isnt there.
     
  15. Böhme417 macrumors 6502

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    Disagree. I did a clean install to clean everything out and not put back useless crap, and it has bitten me in the ass. Aside from having a new home directory recreated on every reboot, the computer will randomly restart itself about five times a day. The finder and dock will also randomly restart themselves throughout the day.
     
  16. nikhsub1 macrumors 68000

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    Uhh, it doesn't touch system files - the closest it gets it preferences.
     
  17. brentmore macrumors 6502

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    My 2009 MBP is noticeably faster after the upgrade.

    I used to think that clean installs were the way to go, but the Mac OS has improved significantly as it relates to extension management, third-party drivers, etc. So I've seen less and less of a reason to wipe and reinstall everything. However, if everything was laggy on my Mac, I'd definitely start fresh... it's just that I haven't had to do that since Jaguar.
     
  18. Benbikeman macrumors 6502a

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    It puts all your apps, settings and preferences back.
     
  19. brayhite macrumors 6502a

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    I had a couple questions about a clean install (original thread here: http://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?t=1414987)

    Basically, if a Mac is having bizarre problems (App Store has display glitches, sluggishness, Safari simply doesn't work and requires restart), will restoring from a backup most likely just transfer those problems with it after a clean install?

    And if restoring from a Lion-based Time Machine backup is okay to do on a Mountain Lion-running machine?
     
  20. rosschang macrumors member

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    I'll add another thumbs up for the clean install advocate :)

    Coming from someone who like to fiddle a lot with settings, 3rd party SW, try-ware etc etc. :rolleyes:

    Oh, yea, Zee old Windows habbit die hard... :p
     
  21. nikhsub1 macrumors 68000

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    Exactly.
     
  22. negativzero macrumors 6502

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    And you assume the preferences and settings files aren't corrupted? :rolleyes:
     
  23. nikhsub1 macrumors 68000

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    No I've had that happen but when it does, it is associated with an app, not the system as a whole. Trash the prefs to the bugged app, all is good.
     
  24. kmj2318 macrumors 68000

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    Decided to go fora clean install, I figured why not.
     
  25. NZed macrumors 65816

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    Well, its the best upgrade without wipe i 've ever done on a computer.

    So much better than windows. I remember XP to VIsta took over 6 hours to install and migrate everything. Vista to 7 took almost 4 hours.

    SL to ML? 25 minutes :D

    And i have more data and a slower HD than my old junk!
     

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