Hey all, I'm new to this forum, but i've been reading it for a while, in fact regarding the title of my thread has kept me here for a while and i can't find a thread that offers advice similar to the problem i have. So after installing RoC and TFT, i get the message "application quite unexpectedly" when i first looked at my console it said something like: "app exited abnormally;" segmentation fault. after reinstalling, deleting prefs and changing the movie file, i tried the latest patch. while the patch updated fine then when trying to open TFT i didn't even get the message, all i got was "Sorry, warcraft 3 could not be opened." I would really appreciate if someone could give me some advice about what to do, because i've tried so many things already. thanks, chi.