WARNING: Do not blow into the microphone / speaker / plug input of your iPhone. There is a moisture sensor that turns red and voids your warranty if it is exposed. I was at apple this morning and I was the third person that was denied becuase of moisture damage. Every one of us guaranteed that there had been no moisture damage. Please be careful
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WARNING: Do not blow into the microphone / speaker / plug input
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daneoni
macrumors G5
I'd go back argue my case for the phone to be declaired damaged by moisture TWO sensors have to be activated at once. If its only one then you can plead accidental tripping.
fireshot91
macrumors 601
I have heard this argument several times here. Take your phone and dip the dock connector side into a bowl of water up to the Home button. Now your dock connector sensor is tripped but not your headphone jack sensor.
This scenario would likely cause damage to the phone by wet electronics and shorting around the dock connector. Same thing goes with either end of the phone. I don't understand why some think the whole phone must be submerged into liquid for damage to occur?
You should never blow into any electronic equipment to clean it due to possible moisture damage. You also shouldn't use a vaccuum cleaner set to blow either because the plastic nozzle can produce static electricity to damage it.
The safest way is to use a can of compressed air (with a non-static nozzle) or a non-static brush.
The safest way is to use a can of compressed air (with a non-static nozzle) or a non-static brush.
TMar
macrumors 68000
Maybe because there are more then 2 sensors in the phone? If the top or bottom one is tripped they can easily open the phone to check the others..
thelatinist
macrumors 603
Actually, it seems to me that this is exactly what the sensor is designed to do. If you've been blowing into your headphone jack, you cannot be sure that the moisture from your breath has not caused damage to the sensitive internal components. Exposure to moisture is exactly what the moisture sensor is supposed to sense!
im pretty sure that it wont trip the sensor like that, it has to be a considerable amount of water
this is what the apple employee told me though, he might be lying 😕
this is what the apple employee told me though, he might be lying 😕
HitchHykr
macrumors 6502a
jsquared
macrumors 6502
I've had all 3 generation iPhones and I've used compressed air on all 3 in any little nook and or cranny I could and never had a problem.....so....you sir are a liar...😉
Right, there are two more sensors towards the center of the logic board. What I am saying is you don't have to get the phone wet enough to trip all the sensors to produce damage. One or two drops of water in the right place is all it would take to short it out. Be it through the headphone jack, dock connector, SIM tray, whatever. Just enough to bridge two wires or circuit traces on the board sending voltage and current flowing where it was not designed to.
Amazingly I have had my 3GS wet twice without either of the two outer sensors being tripped. Once while out on my motorcycle and getting caught in a storm, and the other time I had my phone wrapped in a paper towel and coffee got spilled and the towel soaked up the spill and sat there for a good hour or two at least before I seen it. Think of a very heavy dew on you car in the morning as that was how wet it was both times, completely covered almost to the point of dripping.
Now, I am not even gonna get into the discussion that that there could be tripped sensors out there without ever being any contact with moisture. Anything is possible...
When I had my iPhone 3G replaced under warranty (no problem with the moisture sensor BTW), I spent some time talking with the Genius about iPhone reliability. He said the #1 reason they get iPhones back for repair is due to moisture damage. They see the headphone moisture sensor is "tripped" and they almost immediately decide it's the customers fault. He said there have been cases where they could tell when the customer was genuinely surprised about the sensor being tripped and in some cases they HAVE replaced phones under warranty, even with tripped sensors. But he said those cases are rare. He further said they sometimes open up the iPhones in the back and, when they do, 100% of the time the internal moisture sensors are tripped too.
In other words, in HIS experience, when they open up someones iPhone that insists it was never near water, 100% of the time that person was either lying or didn't know someone else dunked their iPhone in water (or whatever).
He also said a fair percentage of people come in admitting the iPhone got dunked in water (or whatever). The most common is falling in the sink, bathtub or toilet. The most interesting one he had so far was someone dropping a guy's iPhone into his mug of beer at a bar. The guy apparently left it on the counter when he went to the restroom and, when he came back, it was in his beer.
Mark
In other words, in HIS experience, when they open up someones iPhone that insists it was never near water, 100% of the time that person was either lying or didn't know someone else dunked their iPhone in water (or whatever).
He also said a fair percentage of people come in admitting the iPhone got dunked in water (or whatever). The most common is falling in the sink, bathtub or toilet. The most interesting one he had so far was someone dropping a guy's iPhone into his mug of beer at a bar. The guy apparently left it on the counter when he went to the restroom and, when he came back, it was in his beer.
Mark
Pika
macrumors 68000
No need to call the guy a liar. Care to show us where he stated he used canned air? Even if he did maybe he got the can turned sideways and blew the liquid out the nozzle. Or maybe be blew spit into it, which I think most here took for granted is what happened.
So you sir are jumping to conclusions unless the OP comes back to clarify on what happened.😉
thelatinist
macrumors 603
In fact, Apple lists an acceptable humidity range for the iPhone of 5% to 95% (non-condensing). Humidity levels over 95% or condensing conditions can trip the moisture sensor and void your warranty.
Wonder how Apple responds to using the Leaf Trombone App. Since Apple approved an app where you blow into the mic, that can cause the moisture sensor to trip, how can they deny us?
The Californian
macrumors 68040
Well, this has been discussed many times before but the best thing you can do is ask Apple to open it up to check out the interior for water damage. If they find that there is no water damage they'll service your iPhone as covered by warranty, if they find there is water damage they'll charge you for the work done and offer to replace for the water damage price which I believe is 149 quid or 199 US dollars. I could be wrong though.
Lol. I have to know - all the people telling others not to blow their electronics because it can cause moisture damage, do you all have jets of water coming out of your mouth when you blow?
Seriously, there is NOTHING wrong with blowing out electronics. Nothing. Do it quick and fast. That's it. You're not suppose to make love to it 😛
Seriously, there is NOTHING wrong with blowing out electronics. Nothing. Do it quick and fast. That's it. You're not suppose to make love to it 😛
EricNau
Moderator emeritus
From Apple's support website:
"These indicators will be activated when they come in direct contact with liquid. They are designed not to be triggered by humidity and temperature changes that are within the product's environmental requirements described by Apple."
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3302
"These indicators will be activated when they come in direct contact with liquid. They are designed not to be triggered by humidity and temperature changes that are within the product's environmental requirements described by Apple."
http://support.apple.com/kb/HT3302
There is ALWAYS moisture in your breath and blowing on electronic parts does have the potential to cause moisture damage.
It's similar to opening up your Mac without getting rid of static electricity. 99% of the time it is fine, but there's always that other 1% where you'll cause irrepairable damage.
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