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[klozowski]

Originally posted by Le Big Mac
And IBM changed that by agreeing to give MS the rights to DOS and Windows.

IBM never owned the rights to DOS (at least not the DOS you're talking about) or Windows. MS bought DOS from Tim Patterson and demonstrated it to IBM.

Windows was developed at Microsoft since v 1.0

 

[MorganX]

Originally posted by Dont Hurt Me
agreed get the dam thing off the imac, what the hell happen big brother from 1984 took over everything design wise?

I like iSight and will definitely buy one, but I think it will be in a corner, not the center of my iMac.

 

[MorganX]

Originally posted by Le Big Mac
But Mircosoft changed that by making the issue software not hardware (perhaps that was inevitable).

Fitting fo this thread. IBM making the CPU for Apple. Microsoft's best software Word/Excel started out on the Mac.

 

[klozowski]

Originally posted by MorganX
Fitting fo this thread. IBM making the CPU for Apple. Microsoft's best software Word/Excel started out on the Mac.

This is also incorrect. Word was written for DOS first in 1983, and versions for Mac and Windows were produced in 1984 and 1989 respectively.

MULTIPLAN, predecessor to Excel, was developed concurrently for Apple's GUI and on DOS, to my knowledge.

 

[zimv20]

pride issues

i doubt there is any lingering corporate hostility between apple and ibm.

if anything, the ibm chip division may be driven by the desire to be a better chipmaker than intel. and apple is a great vehicle with which to demonstrate that.

better vehicle than ibm's own ppc workstations, anyway. (does anyone here know someone who owns one? i sure don't)

 

[klozowski]

Re: pride issues

Originally posted by zimv20


if anything, the ibm chip division may be driven by the desire to be a better chipmaker than intel. and apple is a great vehicle with which to demonstrate that.

ibm is already a better chipmaker than intel in many respects. The Power4 is a brilliant design.

 

[zimv20]

Re: Re: pride issues

Originally posted by klozowski
ibm is already a better chipmaker than intel in many respects. The Power4 is a brilliant design.

i agree. i meant to say "may be driven by the desire to be widely recognized as a better chipmaker than intel."

 

[yzedf]

Re: Re: Re: pride issues

Originally posted by zimv20
i agree. i meant to say "may be driven by the desire to be widely recognized as a better chipmaker than intel."

Right now I will settle for "better PPC chipmaker than Motorola."

 

[zimv20]

Re: Re: Re: Re: pride issues

Originally posted by yzedf
Right now I will settle for "better PPC chipmaker than Motorola."

i think it's safe to say that has been achieved. onwards and upwards!

 

[tpjunkie]

IBM had a hand in killing itself off if I remember correctly. They were more interested in the high end workstations (late 70's early 80's) and did't believe that the desktop market was worth getting into.

IBM "created" the desktop PC (as the x86 world knows it, anyhow) in 1981

 

[Fender2112]

Originally posted by MorganX
Fitting fo this thread. IBM making the CPU for Apple. Microsoft's best software Word/Excel started out on the Mac.

Don't forget about Quicken, AOL, Netscape, Myst, Quicktime, Photoshop, just to name a few.