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I am with O2, and on Saturday I called them to discuss upgrading. They confirmed that I could pay a £160 'fast-track upgrade' fee to get the 4S at the subsidised price. It worked out cheaper than buying a 4S sim free, so my plan was sorted.

Today I went to the Liverpool O2 store that I was planning to get my 4S from, just to check that what I was told on the phone was true.

Well well well...

Apparently lots of people are trying to do the same as me, and O2 are worried they will run out of stock. They have silently introduced a new policy - you won't be able to upgrade this Friday unless you are on a contract costing more than £40 per month (mine is £37). They aren't announcing the change so I think a lot of o2 customers will be very disappointed on Friday.

I went to the Apple store, and they confirmed after checking my eligibility that I was no longer able to upgrade because o2 had pulled their existing offer.

Looks like I'll be buying a sim free phone...

Long story short: If you are on o2 and want a 4S on launch day, you won't be able to upgrade unless your contract costs more than £40 per month. Your only alternative is to wait a few weeks for O2 to change its policy back, or buy a 4S sim free from the Apple store.
 
Could you have added a bolt-on to the contract for a month or two to take it over £40 temporarily? If so then it's an even more stupid policy.
 
O2 done something like this with the iPhone 4. They weren't selling it to anyone who wasn't on contract with them, and if you wanted to take out a contract with them or go PAYG then you had to wait a month.

Ended up going to the Apple Store to get an iPhone 4, back to the O2 store to get a microsim and that was me sorted :)
 
This is nonsense. All existing O2 pay monthly customers who are out of contract, or eligible for an early upgrade with O2 Priority, are equally eligible for the iPhone 4S come Friday/
 
This is nonsense. All existing O2 pay monthly customers who are out of contract, or eligible for an early upgrade with O2 Priority, are equally eligible for the iPhone 4S come Friday/

It's not nonense! We aren't talking about those people, but rather people who are still in a contract, until a few days ago they could pay an early "fast track upgrade" fee to upgrade sooner than normal. For me that fee would be £27 as I got an 18 month contract on the iPhone 4 release day. Now O2 are saying I can't pay £27 to upgrade early!!!
 
Another benefit of buying sim-free

give the carriers the middle finger, that disgusting behaviour.
 
o2 have been flaunting their disgusting behaviour now for 2 years, thats why i'm departing them at the end of this week.

Then encountered my ire when they ended 'unlimited data' with the release of the 4, and then to not take pre-orders and offer v.wanky contracts these days was the final straw.

Screw them.
 
I found this out Saturday..... And was the reason I handed my notice in. Told them exactly why I was leaving and how their shoddy preparation of this launch has forced people to leave. My contract terminates on 7th November, my termination fee of £62 will come through end of November and my new iPhone 4s is being delivered by the Carphone warehouse through Orange on Friday.
 
Another reason why yrou should leave O2 while you can

Another shambles from expensive bump O2
 
I'm astonished at O2 charging you for a data bundle when the other carriers include it in their tariffs.

Luckily for me my O2 contract ends on Saturday so I'll get my phone saturday morning and contact O2 the same day for my PAC code.
 
I'm astonished at O2 charging you for a data bundle when the other carriers include it in their tariffs.

Luckily for me my O2 contract ends on Saturday so I'll get my phone saturday morning and contact O2 the same day for my PAC code.

Don't be astonished O2 have done worst then that

Other networks offer unlimited data you may want to go to them
 
Could you have added a bolt-on to the contract for a month or two to take it over £40 temporarily? If so then it's an even more stupid policy.

No, sadly that won't work. If you add anything to your account it won't take effect until your next billing cycle, so you can't use that trick if you want one on Friday. The guy in the store was pretty helpful and tried to find ways around it, including calling customer services, but there was no way past it because the computer system wouldn't let him process an upgrade on anything less than a £40 contract. Even by his admission it was 'pretty ***** of O2'.

The thing I find so stupid about it all is that they were the last network to announce their prices, and yet they have still managed to screw everything up by withdrawing their fast-track upgrade packages just in time for the release. If they had withdrawn the option before announcing the prices, fine, but I wonder how many people will line up outside an O2 store on Friday having planned to do an early upgrade only to be screwed over and left without an iPhone by the network that promises to reward their loyalty by saving iPhone stocks for their existing customers.

My opinion of O2 has dropped significantly in the wake of all this...
 
Had the exact same issue with my mum.
She's been with o2 for FIFTEEN years, she wanted her first iPhone, so was going to get the 4s on Friday.
After being told it'd be £100 for an early upgrade, o2 have now said that isn't possible, that option has been taken away.

So a customer of 15 years have basically been snubbed. She'll be leaving them at the end of the month.
 
This is why i have decided to leave o2 and will be buying sim free and going with three on the £25 sim only all you can eat data contract (includes tethering)
 
I would have liked to buy mine outright on an 02 payg contract but i have to wait until its available on payg !

They had no issues taking the £504 I paid for the iPhone 4 !

If I order thro apple I'm looking at 3-4 weeks lead time and my nearest apple uk store is over an hour away on the train.

So instead of rushing out getting stressed trying to buy one ill be upgrading to ios5 and enjoying that while i read all the new threads about lines of people standing outside, not getting one or being impressed or not being impressed by one.

Ill keep my £500 in my pocket for now !
 
Stories like this one are exactly why I always buy my iPhone direct from Apple and put a PAYG SIM in the device. All but two of my contacts are on O2, so for £15 a month I get O2 to O2 calls and texts unlimited for the month and £10 from that £15 pays for my 1GB web allowance.

So for £15 I get unlimited calls and texts to O2 numbers, 1GB web allowance, and £5 remaining credit.

I hate the control that carrier's seem to enjoy over us.

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I would have liked to buy mine outright on an 02 payg contract but i have to wait until its available on payg !

They had no issues taking the £504 I paid for the iPhone 4 !

If I order thro apple I'm looking at 3-4 weeks lead time and my nearest apple uk store is over an hour away on the train.

So instead of rushing out getting stressed trying to buy one ill be upgrading to ios5 and enjoying that while i read all the new threads about lines of people standing outside, not getting one or being impressed or not being impressed by one.

Ill keep my £500 in my pocket for now !

Why pay O2 for an iPhone locked to them on PAYG, when for the same price you can go to Apple and buy the phone outright unlocked? Best option, I feel like my iPhone is actually MINE.
 
I found this out at the weekend. There still seems to be some confusion amongst O2 Customer Services about whether the £40 includes a bolt on or not. I've been told both that it does and that it doesn't! I pay £41 a month, including a bolt on, so I think I'm eligible for a fast track upgrade - I just don't want to take the chance of turning up at a shop on Friday morning and queuing for ages only to be told that I'm not!
 
This reminds me of O2 bad customer service

At&t and O2 in their USA and in the uk were the first to have iPhones they took it for granted all these customers that they have that they treat them like crsp



Ive been having so many damn problems with AT&T since the ip4s preorder date. and ive been with them for almost 7 years and been an iphone user since it first came out. its absolutely ridiculous and now im lost with what to do next.

10/7 #1: called AT&T to preorder ip4s. waited 20minutes to get thru. got thru and CSR said she had to redirect me to someone because of some sort of system failure she had. put on hold for 15 minutes then redirected only to have to wait another 15. got disconnected.

10/07 #2: called, took 20 minutes. got connected to some lady and told her my name and that i wanted to preorder. thru the process, she told me i couldnt do it because the account is still under my fathers name, (he opened the account for me yearsss ago but then i took over the payments and so on via online) i told them to transfer the information to me but she said she could not because im not my father.:( well duh, but i know his last 4 of the SSN. she said that it wouldnt help even though we both knew that thats the only way they verify who they're talking to. she pretty much told me to call back again....:eek:

10/07 #3: call AT&T BACK to preorder. got thru after 25minutes and got connected to some guy who claims hes based in texas. said i was my father and gave last 4 of SSN. all went smooth. proceeded to preorder and he told me that i was eligible for white 32gb ip4s for $299. cool. told him my info and about wanted to transfer information to "my son". gave new email yadda yadda. told me he was experiencing problems about selecting a "data plan".....when really i kept hearing AIM instant message sounds going off in the background NONSTOP. told me he'd ask his supervisor. put me on hold about 5x totaling about 45minutes - 1hr. asked for a direct call back number just incase we get disconnected. he said that he'll call me back if that was the case...and guess what, he puts me on hold then it cuts off. 10 minutes later, no call back.

10/07 #4: call back yet AGAIN. waited 30minutes. got some nice lady who finally placed my order in after telling her about my bad experiences. she also told me that there was no notes regarding the previous phone call and according to their system, no phone call even existed. :mad: try to stay calm because all is over and my order is now in....so i think. she proceeds to give me an order number and tells me that i'll be redirected to an automated message regarding orders. automated message said id received an email regarding Terms and Conditions and that i MUST accept it for order to process and within 24hours or my order will be cancelled. did not receive T&C email but read on macrumors that AT&T is experiencing delays and so i waited it out till the following morning.

10/08 #1: called, waited 15 minutes, and got thru. ask questions regarding T&C email. told CSR that my back account already shows a charge for the phone. was told that it is very unusual because they were normally just experiencing delays with confirmation emails and not T&C emails. they told me to go to wireless.ATT.com/tc to accept T&C but seems like the website doesnt find any pending request to accept T&C at all. CSR was very nice and told me he'd speak to his supervisor and would no longer continue picking up other calls until my problem was resolved. got off the phone and he called me back within 10 minutes. told me that it must be some error in the delayed systems and that i should have it by tomorrow (10/09). if not, call back asap and follow up to make sure order was not cancelled and that i would not lose my place in order line and receive by 10/14. (Best CSR experience thus far).

10/09 #1: called back, waited 20 minutes and got some stupid b*@!^. told her i didnt get the T&C email and she told me that im not supposed to get one. :mad: told her she was wrong and that i am supposed to receive one because everyone else who orders one did. told her that i better get the phone on time or else ill be angry. she told me that if i ordered on 10/7 that it might be on the way already. told her she doesnt know what shes talking about because it comes on out 10/14 hence why its a PREORDER. she started giving me a negative tone of voice and tells me to go to wireless.att.com/tc to accept it. told her that i did it the day before and it says "cannot find pending request to accept t&c...and if dont, youd receive order confirmation by email."...still no email. she kept saying "so you accepted it?" and i said NO it cant even find a reason to accept it and NO EMAIL. she replies "so then you already did it". i reply NOOOOO. told her that i havent received a since letter, text, call, email, or response from anyone saying that my order is being processed at all. for all i know, my bank account is the only way i know that it somewhat went thru. she puts me on hold for 10 minutes. gets back on the phone and tells me that i already accepted the T&C. :mad::mad: i get heated and tell her that she's clearly doing something wrong and that theres no way and she proceeds to give me even more attitude. tell her read everything on her screen so i know what crap shes looking at. she tells me to just wait and try again the day after. i ask to speak to her supervisor mid way during her stupid advice to call back. she says "...umm okay i can do that..." puts me on hold for 10 minutes. comes back and tells me that i should try to att.com/tc again. :eek: tell her to just stop and connect me with her supervisor. on hold again for 10 minutes. she COMES BACK AGAIN and tells me, "my supervisior says..." i stop her and tell her "i didnt ask you to ask your supervisor what to do. i asked to SPEAK with your supervisor." puts me on hold again only to come back AGAIN and tell me that her supervisor said i need to talk to AT&T Premier because the order is with them but their closed 5 minutes ago. :eek::eek: WTF! where the hell did this come from?! get the number and hang up on the stupid b*@!$.

10/10 #1: called AT&T Premier. waited 30minutes! got connected to some lady and the first things she ask are "Good Morning, what is your name, phone number regarding the call, and a call back number just incase we get disconnected". first thought, okay cool, they'll actually call back... -__- shouldve known better. right after giving my call back number, she says "okay how can we help you?" , i reply, "well ive been having horrible experiences regarding my iphone 4s ord....[hung up]". :mad: WOW! oh and, guess what...they didnt call back.

10/10 #2: call AT&T customer service to simply speak with a CSR cause maybe that stupid lady from 10/09 didnt know what she was talking about and calling Premier is wrong advice (she was the only one who told me anything about them). stupid idiot picks up the phone after waiting 20 minutes. he asks me what my name is, i reply, then he ask who the user of the phone is -__-... i reply. he says, "no the user.." -__- i said, ummm. me. im talking to you right now. he says "oh. thats right" tell him how stupid everything is going and he doesnt bother trying to help out my situation and do something new and instead just reads his notes and tells me that there was a note on their system about a CSR rep telling me to call premier. i ask why she was the only one who brought them up after numerous attempts and that she didnt know what she was talking about. he pretty much refuses to help me out and says that he cant see anything about my order at all on his side and that only premier would know. great....i hang up.

10/10 #3: call premier. get an automated message. punch necessary numbers to get directed to someone regarding orders only to come across an automated message about AT&T premier experiencing technical difficulties and to call back another time.... :mad::eek::mad:

what do i do now?! i still have no email regarding my order and the stupid order number the lady gave me after i placed it doesnt show up anywhere on AT&T's website! i havent gotten anything!


For those of you to lazy to read my long story (sorry), long story short, i havent gotten a single email. NO T&C email, NO confirmation, NO working order number, an online back statement showing a charge, and stupid CSRs who arent helping. now im stuck.

Similar to O2
 
Yeah just don't go with Three instead as they are a lot worse especially their customer service and 24 month only contracts. ;) :D

They have one month roll in and 12 month sim only contracts too

And pay as you go

Those iPhone 24 month contracts at least they are value for money then rip off waste man O2 they should be called C2H6 (methane fart gas)
 
I found this out at the weekend. There still seems to be some confusion amongst O2 Customer Services about whether the £40 includes a bolt on or not. I've been told both that it does and that it doesn't! I pay £41 a month, including a bolt on, so I think I'm eligible for a fast track upgrade - I just don't want to take the chance of turning up at a shop on Friday morning and queuing for ages only to be told that I'm not!

The terms and conditions say:-

Fast Track Upgrade (the "Offer") is available to you if you're an existing consumer Pay Monthly or Business customer (who signed up in an O2 Shop, through O2 telesales or through o2.co.uk more than three months ago) or simplicity customer (who signed up in an O2 Shop or through o2.co.uk more than six months ago) on O2 who is still within the minimum term of their contract and, for consumer customers only, has monthly subscription charge (including any data Bolt Ons) of more than £40 per month (an "Eligible Customer").If you're a consumer simplicity customer and you've been on simplicity for less than 6 months, but with O2 for more than that, then you are an Eligible Customer.

So yes you would be eligible
 
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