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Had absolutely no problems buying off contract at Best Buy. It was a present for my wife and I asked to not open the box the either, and they didn't open the box. Everything went smooth.

I didn't mind them opening the box, as long as I was able to keep all the items inside (aside from like the wrapping) which I was.

Btw the manager didn't even want to sell me it originally with accessories.. he was very reluctant.

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For those that went to carrier stores, were they corporate stores? I've found that when dealing with a corporate store they are willing to sell phones at the outright price. When shopping anywhere else they tend to be less inclined to sell for that price because they really make no profit. All their $ comes from selling/upgrading the contract.

It was a corporate store. :/

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Howdy neighbor congrats on finding an Iphone 5

*See's your name* Where are you from? Also, RMFT!
 
No problems buying from Apple store at full price. Then again they don't make commission so don't think they care too much, unless you're a reseller.
 
No problems buying from Apple store at full price. Then again they don't make commission so don't think they care too much, unless you're a reseller.

Yeah I doubt anyway at an Apple Store would care, unfortunately the nearest Apple Store is over 2 hours away. I've had to make that trip several times over the years for AppleCare purposes.

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Side note... the new headphones (EarPods) are awesome! Seriously for their price they are extremely good. I have a pair of Audiophile headphones but I jog several times a week and when I jog I prefer in-ear headphones (not canal phones) so these are perfect for that.
 
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To anyone who is wanting to buy an iPhone 5 outright for full price, if you find it in stock.. I'd suggest calling first.

I live in the Southern part of Alabama. I happen to find 1 White 16GB iPhone 5 in stock at a Radioshack about 50 miles away across into Mississippi. They said they'd hold it, I drive over there.. They have it. Ask to buy it for full price.. "We can't sell that without a contract". After about 30 minutes of arguing with them and their manager I just left. Btw it's not that they "Couldn't" they just wouldn't... they wanted that commission from a new sale. I get back to my local Verizon and find out that another Verizon has 3 in stock. But only 32/64GB. I rush over there, they have them. The manager at the Verizon also won't sell it to me outright.. after about 10 minutes of complaining, he agree's to sell me it for $749.99 ONLY if I buy atleast $65 worth of accessories. After a minute of irritation, I bit the bullet and bought them. I bought a case, a lightning cable, and a wall charger. I asked about their return policy on items, they said I have 14 days. I asked if the phone could be returned anywhere.

He said "You have 14 days to return the phone but it will cost $35 for a restocking fee" He then made sure to add "The accessories can only be exchanged at this store" Notice he said exchanged.. he didn't want me to do anything, I call my local store and ask if I can return accessories from other stores and he replies "as long as you have the receipt" I drive to my local store.. give him the receipt and return the accessories for a full refund. :D

Seriously though... way to much hassle for them to just sell you the phone outright.. Anyone else experience this?

Just stop, 700 bux for a phone? Cmon, enough is enough. Every year, a new one that doesn't do anything more than then last, and just more stuff you don't need. . You're all addicted. I went back to an old used Razr and for 39 bux a month can talk and text all I want. That's all a phone needs to do. For the other stuff, that's why we have TVs and computers.
 
To anyone who is wanting to buy an iPhone 5 outright for full price, if you find it in stock.. I'd suggest calling first.

I live in the Southern part of Alabama. I happen to find 1 White 16GB iPhone 5 in stock at a Radioshack about 50 miles away across into Mississippi. They said they'd hold it, I drive over there.. They have it. Ask to buy it for full price.. "We can't sell that without a contract". After about 30 minutes of arguing with them and their manager I just left. Btw it's not that they "Couldn't" they just wouldn't... they wanted that commission from a new sale. I get back to my local Verizon and find out that another Verizon has 3 in stock. But only 32/64GB. I rush over there, they have them. The manager at the Verizon also won't sell it to me outright.. after about 10 minutes of complaining, he agree's to sell me it for $749.99 ONLY if I buy atleast $65 worth of accessories. After a minute of irritation, I bit the bullet and bought them. I bought a case, a lightning cable, and a wall charger. I asked about their return policy on items, they said I have 14 days. I asked if the phone could be returned anywhere.

He said "You have 14 days to return the phone but it will cost $35 for a restocking fee" He then made sure to add "The accessories can only be exchanged at this store" Notice he said exchanged.. he didn't want me to do anything, I call my local store and ask if I can return accessories from other stores and he replies "as long as you have the receipt" I drive to my local store.. give him the receipt and return the accessories for a full refund. :D

Seriously though... way to much hassle for them to just sell you the phone outright.. Anyone else experience this?

Why the heck did you ask about the accessory return policy as you were buying??? What did you think that manager would do?

Manager's cannot rewrite Radio Shack policy so those items were always going to be 100% refundable.

I would NEVER buy anything from Radio Shack, and never buy an iPhone from a third party retailer (other than the carrier).
 
I bought my phone from Radio Shack. The girl told me the same thing. I had to purchase at least $40.00 accessories. I said I don't want anything. She then activated my phone and again asked what accessories I wanted. I said none.

She then called the manger who said I had to but deferred to the district manager. He at first said the same thing then added he wouldn't sell the phone a full retail.

She then informed him she already activated the phone. He then said well see if he can buy accessories ( I could hear him on the other end of the phone). I said no I don't want anything else. He then reluctantly agreed.

I think if it wasn't for her activating my phone first I would have been SOL. But luckily for me I got it anyway.
 
Why the heck did you ask about the accessory return policy as you were buying??? What did you think that manager would do?

Manager's cannot rewrite Radio Shack policy so those items were always going to be 100% refundable.

I would NEVER buy anything from Radio Shack, and never buy an iPhone from a third party retailer (other than the carrier).

I didn't, I asked about the phones return policy (after the phone was already activated) and this was at Verizon.

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I bought my phone from Radio Shack. The girl told me the same thing. I had to purchase at least $40.00 accessories. I said I don't want anything. She then activated my phone and again asked what accessories I wanted. I said none.

She then called the manger who said I had to but deferred to the district manager. He at first said the same thing then added he wouldn't sell the phone a full retail.

She then informed him she already activated the phone. He then said well see if he can buy accessories ( I could hear him on the other end of the phone). I said no I don't want anything else. He then reluctantly agreed.

I think if it wasn't for her activating my phone first I would have been SOL. But luckily for me I got it anyway.


Radioshack didn't even give me the option. :/

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Just stop, 700 bux for a phone? Cmon, enough is enough. Every year, a new one that doesn't do anything more than then last, and just more stuff you don't need. . You're all addicted. I went back to an old used Razr and for 39 bux a month can talk and text all I want. That's all a phone needs to do. For the other stuff, that's why we have TVs and computers.

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I didn't mind them opening the box, as long as I was able to keep all the items inside (aside from like the wrapping) which I was.

Btw the manager didn't even want to sell me it originally with accessories.. he was very reluctant.

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It was a corporate store. :/

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South South South you can't get any further south in Alabama :)
 
SouthernboyJ, why didn't you just buy it outright at an apple store?

Closest one is over 2 hours away.

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Also, I emailed RadioShack's customer care line. Here is the email if anyone is interested (I deleted my last name for privacy reasons)


"Hello, my name is Joshua (last name here). I have been a frequent RadioShack customer for many years. I live in Mobile, Alabama. My last trip to RadioShack however, left a very bad taste in my mouth about how they do business. A few days ago I was searching for an iPhone 5. After looking on RadioShack's website I finally found the model I was looking for in stock at a RadioShack in Pascagoula, Mississippi. It is quite a drive, so I called the store before hand and made sure it was in stock. An employee confirmed it was there and took my name, saying they would hold it for me. So I make nearly a 50 mile trip over there, when I arrive I tell them who I was. The lady immediately remembers me.. When she asked how I wanted to buy the phone, I said I wanted to buy it for full price, no contract. The price of which is $699 at RadioShack. She refused to sell it to me. I demanded to speak to the manager, and after explaining how far I had drove and I had called before hand he wouldn't sell me it either. They lied to me and said the system wouldn't allow phones to be sold outright, I called RadioShack customer care right in front of them and customer care told me there was no such policy. Several of my friends also had bought phones there for full price so I knew it wasn't true. They then changed their story to, "We can't sell you it because we are holding it for someone else named Steve." Clearly we both knew they were lying.

I understand why they didn't want to sell me it. I know RadioShack makes commission off every mobile contract activated. The thing is, the model I wanted was a 16GB iPhone 5. Apple, Walmart, and every Carrier charges only $649 for the phone. So by RadioShack charging $699 they are already making $50 extra to compensate for the lack on the contract. This visit made be feel like the management team was extremely greedy and did not care for the customer even slightly.

I don't remember the store number but the address and phone number are as follows:


4131 Denny Avenue Pascagoula, MS 39581
(228) 769-6784

Please get back to me on this because I truly want to believe not every RadioShack operates in this bad business manner.

Thanks, Josh.
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To anyone who is wanting to buy an iPhone 5 outright for full price, if you find it in stock.. I'd suggest calling first.

I live in the Southern part of Alabama. I happen to find 1 White 16GB iPhone 5 in stock at a Radioshack about 50 miles away across into Mississippi. They said they'd hold it, I drive over there.. They have it. Ask to buy it for full price.. "We can't sell that without a contract". After about 30 minutes of arguing with them and their manager I just left. Btw it's not that they "Couldn't" they just wouldn't... they wanted that commission from a new sale. I get back to my local Verizon and find out that another Verizon has 3 in stock. But only 32/64GB. I rush over there, they have them. The manager at the Verizon also won't sell it to me outright.. after about 10 minutes of complaining, he agree's to sell me it for $749.99 ONLY if I buy atleast $65 worth of accessories. After a minute of irritation, I bit the bullet and bought them. I bought a case, a lightning cable, and a wall charger. I asked about their return policy on items, they said I have 14 days. I asked if the phone could be returned anywhere.

He said "You have 14 days to return the phone but it will cost $35 for a restocking fee" He then made sure to add "The accessories can only be exchanged at this store" Notice he said exchanged.. he didn't want me to do anything, I call my local store and ask if I can return accessories from other stores and he replies "as long as you have the receipt" I drive to my local store.. give him the receipt and return the accessories for a full refund. :D

Seriously though... way to much hassle for them to just sell you the phone outright.. Anyone else experience this?


Is this even legal?

In all seriousness, if a product is available at a store, for a certain price, can they blackmail you into buying more goods?

I'd have called the police and inquired about it.
 
Even store in NYC tells me they won't sell outright! :(

Should I just try a walk-in at the Apple store?
 
Is this even legal?

In all seriousness, if a product is available at a store, for a certain price, can they blackmail you into buying more goods?

I'd have called the police and inquired about it.

A store can choose to sell a product for whatever price people want to pay, but if they have advertised it at a price (and the advertisement isn't clearly a mistake) they might be in violation of deceptive advertising laws.

Technically, an advertisement is only an "invitation to make an offer," but there are other laws governing deceptive advertising. The attorney general's office in your state may be able to provide more help than the police. Also check with the Better Business Bureau. While the latter isn't a law enforcement agency, they do track complaints.
 
Vote with your wallet man. Screw them, remind them how every month you pour over a hundred dollars for their services.

This MIGHT mean something to someone at a call center, but it means nothing to the sales grunt at a brick and mortar carrier store or third party reseller whose paycheck gets bigger or smaller depending on whether you sign a new contract or not. If you're a new customer buying a subsidized phone, they make the most money. They make a little bit less if you're an existing customer that's re-upping. But if you're buying full price and not committing to anything but buying the phone, then the sales droid pretty much gets base pay. At that point, they consider you to be a waste of their time.

Whether you pay your bill on time or not beyond the 30-day return period isn't their problem. And obviously, being a 10-year loyal customer actually makes you somewhat LESS valuable to them than some new schlub off the street, as long as their credit's good or they can plunk down a deposit.

Best Buy might be the exception to this. While corporate gets a payment from the wireless carrier for activations through them, I don't think the people on the floor get that commission. I could be wrong on this. There are plenty of other reasons to avoid best Buy, though.

Anyway, feel lucky that they even felt willing to sell you an iPhone at all: Commissions are usually higher on Android phones than Apple products. Ever heard a Verizon or AT&T salesdroid either say completely false things about iPhones, or try to talk someone out of buying an iphone because "Androids are better?" Yeah, there's a reason for that.

I only partially blame the sales people for acting the way they do, though. Most of the blame rests on the carriers, who set commissions and pressure the staff with "sales goals" and other metrics.

Here's another one: Ever left a store, only to log into your account and find you left with a more expensive data or texting plan than you asked for, or with your service plan completely changed around? That's because the sales staff are ordered to upsell. If most of a salesdroid's customers aren't leaving the store without a minimum dollar amount of add-ons to their plan, their manager will write them up for it. If it continues, they'll be shown the door. there's a specific quota they must meet, and it's not usually realistic. Salesdroids and their managers hate iMessage for that reason. Their job depends on you getting that unlimited texting plan, but what motivation do you have for paying $20 a month for it, if most of your friends use iOS and don't need it?

This is why it makes more sense to buy from the Apple store when you can.
 
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Just stop, 700 bux for a phone? Cmon, enough is enough. Every year, a new one that doesn't do anything more than then last, and just more stuff you don't need. . You're all addicted. I went back to an old used Razr and for 39 bux a month can talk and text all I want. That's all a phone needs to do. For the other stuff, that's why we have TVs and computers.

That's good for you.
Some of us need more on a device than just making calls and texts.
Glad you're enjoying your 10 year old cellphone. Why are you even here then?
 
my bill would have went up 30 a month.

Dumb question, but why do people want to buy the phones without contract? Isn't the monthly bill the same price regardless if you bought the phone on a contract? An additional $500 just seems like way too much.
 
Vote with your wallet? Yeah that'll show em!
Because there won't be someone that comes in the next 10 minutes to buy it.
 
I went into my local store in launch day, asked to buy a phone full retail, declined all accessories, kept my unlimited data, and even DOWNGRADED my minutes on my plan while in the store.

They were pleasant and helpful, never second guessed my decisions, and I walked out with my phone in less than an hour even after waiting.

So it's not always bad...
 
I get back to my local Verizon and find out that another Verizon has 3 in stock. But only 32/64GB. I rush over there, they have them. The manager at the Verizon also won't sell it to me outright.. after about 10 minutes of complaining, he agree's to sell me it for $749.99 ONLY if I buy atleast $65 worth of accessories. After a minute of irritation, I bit the bullet and bought them. I bought a case, a lightning cable, and a wall charger. I asked about their return policy on items, they said I have 14 days. I asked if the phone could be returned anywhere.

I would have walked out of the store without purchasing a thing if they tried to pull that crap on me.
 
Why do people put so little effort into reasonable TITLE's?

This should be a warning to those buying a FULL PRICE or OFF CONTRACT Iphone. The rest of us that know they are staying with the same carrier for 2 years, and not going overseas will be buying a phone on contract and really do not care about this stuff.
 
I had something similar happen to me but it was a subsidiary of Verizon (Cellular Connection or something to that effect) I get there release day and they had them in stock but the dude(owner no less) didn't want to sell it to me full price at first, he thought I was upgrading. Then he tells me he'll sell it to me but with a $300 markup and he'd do it "tax free" if I paid cash. I'm like WTF is this crap? Bribery? He said all the other stores were doing the same thing and that you could sell the iphone on ebay for a lot of money.

I just wanted a phone to use, not sell it on ebay or be bribed by a crooked cell phone dealer. At any rate I went to a little verizon store in a BJ's and they had a few in stock. I almost wanted to go back and show the phone off and give him a piece of my mind. But instead I'll leave a bad review on YELP to ensure his business gets affected.
 
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