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Wouldn't say it lived up to what they claimed.
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Was antennagate overblown?
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Yep, we bought a washer based on a CR recommendation.
Wouldn't say it lived up to what they claimed.
Wasn't overblown. But Apple's response was beyond stupid.
Every single iPhone 4 out there loses signal when you touch the seam in the antenna at the bottom left. I'd hardly call it an overblown problem.
Then you have people like that jerkweed up there posting a picture of an old Nokia with a top external antenna and going "hurr durr it drops signal too" Except who the hell holds it from the antenna? The iPhone 4's antenna is where every single person holds the phone. Unless I'm wrong and somehow all owners of that Nokia phone held it like a Popsicle, you make a horrible point.
Every single iPhone 4 out there loses signal when you touch the seam in the antenna at the bottom left. I'd hardly call it an overblown problem.
Then you have people like that jerkweed up there posting a picture of an old Nokia with a top external antenna and going "hurr durr it drops signal too" Except who the hell holds it from the antenna? The iPhone 4's antenna is where every single person holds the phone. Unless I'm wrong and somehow all owners of that Nokia phone held it like a Popsicle, you make a horrible point.
Omg that company is such a scam! I've posted this before but I'll post it again (see you got me started!) :
Monster came into our store and set up a display showing the "monster cable" difference. There were two TVs, each set up beside each other. One TV used monster cables, the other TV used your standard in the box cables. The monster TV was definitely clearer....the monster TV also used COMPONENT cables where as the "in the box cables" tv was hooked up with composite!!!! Me and a few others pointed this out to the manager who told us to shut up about it. We were also told Monster paid a lot for the display and we were to use it.
What did we do? During closing one of the guys put non-monster component cables on the "in the box" TV and there was no difference. None. Except for $85 in price difference
Most people tend not to believe that story since "its a big named retailer" but its completely true. We eventually had to put the other cables back on the monster display. Circuit City was a very very corrupt store. Just look at their "ad corrections" aka legal bait and switch
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This seems to be the biggest fail for Apple in it's entire product line. Full of promises, release repeatedly delayed. Now it seems like a monument
I think it was overblown until Jobs replied with that ridiculous "You're holding it wrong" comment. That opened the door for whatever criticism Apple receives, in my opinion.
This seems to be the biggest fail for Apple in it's entire product line. Full of promises, release repeatedly delayed. Now it seems like a monument
OT, but obviously you never owned the just past generation iPod Shuffle! Talk about FAIL!
Yes. It was overblown. When a product is know as the best of its kind, any flaw, no matter how small, makes a good story. When you really think about it, it was a compliment of sorts.
(I do not have problems with dropped calls. However, I so use the bumper.)
(I do not have problems with dropped calls. However, I so use the bumper.)
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It was more of an issue for me why Apple thought it was a clever idea to put so much glass on an object that gets routinely manhandled, thrown into bags, onto tables, counters etc.
From glass to soft metals ("structural integrity", my foot!) to brittle plastic, the design team at Cupertino doesn't always seem to get that people actually use rather than just display and admire Apple's products.
I was always going to put a protective cover on it rather than pay any exorbitant repair charges, so Antennagate for me was a non-issue from the start.
From glass to soft metals ("structural integrity", my foot!) to brittle plastic, the design team at Cupertino doesn't always seem to get that people actually use rather than just display and admire Apple's products.
I was always going to put a protective cover on it rather than pay any exorbitant repair charges, so Antennagate for me was a non-issue from the start.
Well said. I'm really hoping they decide to wow us next year. With all the negative attention this phone has had, even if they aren't as bad as people make them out to be, and with android maturing very well, it would be the smart thing to do. I'm hoping ip5 isn't what the 3GS was to the 3G. I will be very disappointed if that's the case. Apple could do so much more, so I'm hoping they step up there game, otherwise, applee may not be in my future next year depending on what htc or samsung come out with.
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Yes.
I have an iPhone 4. I live in Thailand. Provider TrueMove.
On 3G irbid impossible to recreate the issue.
On Edge only in certain rooms with crap signal.
So I never experience it.
I have an iPhone 4. I live in Thailand. Provider TrueMove.
On 3G irbid impossible to recreate the issue.
On Edge only in certain rooms with crap signal.
So I never experience it.
OT, but obviously you never owned the just past generation iPod Shuffle! Talk about FAIL!
I know. Though it was a fail, Apple released it. The white iPhone 4 was PROMISED to be released, but has been repeatedly been delayed. It used to be highly anticipated, but most people have given up hope waiting for it to be released. Which is worse then?
Good question. Better to release a product you know is flawed, but release it anyway, or better to hold up the release of a product you know is flawed while you try to fix the flaw?
Those who have had antennae issues would probably say it would have been better to fix the flaw first. In my original OT post, I'd sure have preferred it had they fixed the design issue I mentioned BEFORE they released the product.
It absolutely was!, at least if I speak for other countries in the world other than the USA. Here, The Netherlands, I have/had absolutely no problems with dropped calls whatsoever. I still use the iPhone 4 'naked' up until this day.
It just AT&T's bad coverage that has blown this little imperfection to a giant flaw.Oh well, You gotta love the media.
It just AT&T's bad coverage that has blown this little imperfection to a giant flaw.Oh well, You gotta love the media.
Without a doubt, it is not overblown and is a real issue.
People in strong signal areas don't really suffer. But I don't have great signal. I really have to watch how I hold it or calls will drop and I'll have no reception. If I go into town, where I get strong signal, then this doesn't happen. My flatmate's iPhone 3Gs doesn't exhibit this as bad. Signal will drop slightly, but not to dropping calls or loosing signal completely.
Using the bumper prevents all of this.
Without doubt, the iPhone 5 will not have this antenna design.
People in strong signal areas don't really suffer. But I don't have great signal. I really have to watch how I hold it or calls will drop and I'll have no reception. If I go into town, where I get strong signal, then this doesn't happen. My flatmate's iPhone 3Gs doesn't exhibit this as bad. Signal will drop slightly, but not to dropping calls or loosing signal completely.
Using the bumper prevents all of this.
Without doubt, the iPhone 5 will not have this antenna design.
Not overblown. It's a design flaw and depending on where you are you're more or less affected by it. I got No Service the other day while I was browsing the web (or something), obviously it wouldn't make any calls until I changed my grip. Of course 
will have this thing sorted out by the next version but still, a beginners mistake that pissed a lot of people off.
will have this thing sorted out by the next version but still, a beginners mistake that pissed a lot of people off.No it isn't, my 4 works great for me too (with a case), but i can still make the signal degrade just by covering the gap with my finger.
Naked though, the 4 performs worse than my 3GS (which works great) in weak areas.
Very overblown. Every product has a few percent of unhappy customers who think some key feature of the product is cr*p. For Apple, that percentage is lower than the competition, and customer satisfaction ratings are leading the competition. That's all that really matters.
Making it overblown was an accidental trick of Jobs (he got lucky) to get millions of dollars worth of free publicity for the iPhone 4, and probably increase sales in the end.
BTW, I think the i4 antenna is a great design. I can get SMS and data where none of my other cell phones, BB, 3G, or Nokia, even get a signal.
Making it overblown was an accidental trick of Jobs (he got lucky) to get millions of dollars worth of free publicity for the iPhone 4, and probably increase sales in the end.
BTW, I think the i4 antenna is a great design. I can get SMS and data where none of my other cell phones, BB, 3G, or Nokia, even get a signal.
