Was my MacBook hacked?

Discussion in 'MacBook' started by ang31, May 21, 2009.

  1. ang31 macrumors newbie

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    I was searching images at google, and when I clicked an image, there was this web page which said something like "Are you trying to hack us?", and then in 3 seconds or so, my MacBook suddenly shut down! Did the web page cause this? After that happend I could start my MacBook normally, but are there any things that I should worry about? I haven't been online on that MacBook after that.
     
  2. kpark42 macrumors newbie

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    I'd reformat the drive and reinstall the operating system.

    But hey, I'm paranoid :p
     
  3. peepboon macrumors 6502

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    o_O ... that sounds worrying... was it porn or something? ... no joke, its just that u have to be careful as some porn sites contain virus, etc
     
  4. thejadedmonkey macrumors 604

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    Do you know the website? That may be the java whole that Apple didn't yet patch..
     
  5. Richard1028 macrumors 68000

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    As a recent PC to Mac switcher... this is where I'm confused.

    Is OSX really that vulnerable to something like this? Could it be that easy?

    I'm not naive enough to think macs are immune from *all* hacks but this is one of the main reasons I switched.

    Plus, those Mac/PC guys on TV say so. :D
     
  6. Darth.Titan macrumors 68030

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    Sure it did... :rolleyes:
    Give us a link and some evidence otherwise I'm finding this story tough to swallow.

    First post, huh? Welcome aboard.
     
  7. Corrosive vinyl macrumors 6502

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    There might be no or less viruses on the OS, but there could be a software virus, like the java bug which has been recently publicized.
     
  8. Fizzoid macrumors 68020

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    Maybe the battery went flat ;)
     
  9. ang31 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    Thank you for your replys! I have to admit the image was porn-ish... but I am a girl and I was just curious for no sexual reason. Anyway, I don't know the website's url because I called Japan's Apple support and she said I should reset safari, which I did. She said there's nothing to worry about and there's no need to buy any security software, but really...??
    And no, the battery was full because the power charger was plugged.
     
  10. Richard1028 macrumors 68000

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    Well, I'm sure this horse is dead. :D

    Great reading though!

    Since this issue seems to be part of Apple's marketing hype, I tend to believe that any malware/virus author would be revered as a god in hacker heaven among his peers should he succeed in doing this. (Regardless of the low market share theory)

    As far as I know, this hasn't happened on any large scale so there must be something to it.
     
  11. Fizzoid macrumors 68020

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    Well, I'd be amazed if a website was capable of sending a shutdown command to a Mac
     
  12. andalusia macrumors 68030

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    Especially since that requires sudo and a password.
     
  13. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

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    No it doesn't. You don't need to be root to shut down OS X.
     
  14. ang31 thread starter macrumors newbie

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    It wasn't like usual shutting down, it was more sudden, like when you force it to shut down when it's freezing. Maybe the website and the shutting down was unrelated? Is this sudden shutting down a common thing?
     
  15. kpark42 macrumors newbie

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    Actually there are. They're just rare and not as effective as Windows viruses. It also depends on what you mean by virus. It's very easy to write code that delete all your files and shut down your computer. All you need is an exploit to launch that code arbitrarily.
     
  16. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

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    Depends on what you define "virus" as.

    There is currently no self-propagating malicious software out there capable of infecting Mac OS X machines.

    The malicious software that has been seen "in the wild" requires the user to either execute it or give it their root password in order to do anything.
     
  17. kpark42 macrumors newbie

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    Those are called worms :)
     
  18. Richard1028 macrumors 68000

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    That's Malware I think. And I've always thought a virus is something that hops from machine to machine without anyone's knowledge.

    But what's a trojan? (Not the kind you keep your wallet).
     
  19. Toofan macrumors member

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    To the best of my knowledge, the main Safari related viruses such as the Safari Bomb were already patched. Regardless of which, unless you explicitly downloaded content from a website, performing a lower level system call like a "battery pull" style shut down is a pretty big issue. If websites are able to do that, we've got bigger fish to fry...

    My advice to you, see if you can find good virus scanner for your Mac, run it. To be honest, i'd try to replicate the problem to see if it happens again. If it happened again to me, i'd format my Mac because I have credit card info on it.
     
  20. Toofan macrumors member

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    It's a similar concept as a Trojan horse, yah from (Greek / Roman perhaps?) history. It is a file or series of files disguised as something harmless, when indeed they are there to alter your existing files, flood you Mac with files, or download / upload information through your network connection...among many other harmful things they can do. Typically Trojans don't replicate.
     
  21. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

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    There's no formal definition of either, and the line between the two is fuzzy at best.
     
  22. RiCEADDiCTBOY macrumors 6502a

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    Any sense of security is fool hearted. At recent hacking competitions Mac OSX was usually always the first to be hacked. Exploits are just as disastrous as a virus. There are viruses as well for the OSX. The only reason why Apple can tout safety and give users "a sense of security" is simply because at this point the user install base vs pc users aren't of much interest for time and effort involved for hackers and etc. As the user install base increases - you have to be prepared for an increase and that armor starting to chip away. Nothing is fail safe. Nothing.

    Keep in mind Apple continues to neglect to correct reoccurring Safari exploits. The most current one is the Java exploit. The only way to prevent being a victim is to disable Java completely in Safari.
     
  23. ppc750fx macrumors 65816

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    No.

    Look, I'm not going to claim that OS X is invulnerable (it really, really isn't) -- but the marketshare argument is BS.

    Why? Well someone else has said it best. From this Slashdot comment:

    Same applies for OS X (although to a lesser extent, in part due to Apple's prioritization of user experience over security.)

    That's not to claim that OS X won't ever be exploited, but I do think that it presents a much, much smaller target than Windows. Dig?
     
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