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Rolex alone sells 800,000 watches a year. Each and every year. There are many, many, other brands most have never heard of that sell lots of watches. All of them are many thousands of dollars. The people who buy them buy several. Many watches cost over $100,000 dollars.

Several cost over $1,000,000.

There are over 16,000,000 millionaires in the world. A $10,000 watch is chump change.

http://hiconsumption.com/2014/02/the-12-most-expensive-watches-over-1-million/

1. Rolex watches don't get upgraded every year, and possibly becoming a dinosaur in 2 years. So an investment in a luxury Rolex makes sense.

2. Of those 16 million Millionairs, a vast majority of them are usually under 10 million. And of those, they tend to stay Millionaires by not spending money on thing that aren't a necessity. Especially 10k for technology that will be outdated.

I think for the two reasons stated above the sales numbers for the Edition will be less than you think. Sure there will be knucklehead athletes/lottery winners who really don't understand the value of their new found riches. I bet that the majority of sales will be given as gifts by corporations or sponsors rather than individual sales from a very very small minority.
 
There is not a chance in hell that after advertising the :apple:Watch as being IPx7 waterproof they would deny a water damage claim based on any technicality. There is not about to be any detailed questionnaire you must fill out about the exact usage when the watch failed. It would at the very least be a bad publicity nightmare.

Apple is just going to go the easiest and safest route.

Also I had a Garmin (210) IPx7 rated watch for almost 2 years and showered several times a week and swam with it more than several times. Also on the Garmin forum I remember at least a couple of people with water damage that had theirs replaced 'no questions asked'.

You might be right about that. If so, the accidental damage coverage of AC+ would be restricted to shattered screens as a result of banging.

Still, it doesn't change the technicality that the rating stems from an immersion at a defined pressure.
 
You might be right about that. If so, the accidental damage coverage of AC+ would be restricted to shattered screens as a result of banging.

Still, it doesn't change the technicality that the rating stems from an immersion at a defined pressure.

Yeah, but, as I mentioned earlier in the thread and linked to, moving your arms around doesn't add a tangible pressure difference, and the 1m rating is for a whole 30 minutes. I'm not telling anyone to swim in the thing, but I'd wager it would be fine in casual swimming situations.
 
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I'm curious about the dust protection.

The "X" apparently means lacking in all dust protection. Why would that be the case with a device that is otherwise IP-7? something to do with the sensors on the back?
 
I'm curious about the dust protection.

The "X" apparently means lacking in all dust protection. Why would that be the case with a device that is otherwise IP-7? something to do with the sensors on the back?

X is a placeholder, it means that element is unrated (basically what the "-" means in your example, although "-" is not used in IP codes). Lacking in dust protection would be like IP47 or lower.
 
Yeah, but, as I mentioned earlier in the thread and linked to, moving your arms around doesn't add a tangible pressure difference, and the 1m rating is for a whole 30 minutes. I'm not telling anyone to swim in the thing, but I'd wager it would be fine in casual swimming situations.

I don't see how it would get ruined by swimming laps. Your hands go what? 3 feet below the surface if that when you swim freestyle? And if it does go that deep, it's only down there for ~a second at a time. Or if you're wading in a pool and keep your arms above 2 feet below the surface. How is this able to damage the watch with the rating it has?

I'm reallllly curious and hoping someone does the water test on the :apple: Watch soon after its released. Once people can confirm its fine to swim with, I'll be a happy camper and swim with mine on daily.
 
...I'm reallllly curious and hoping someone does the water test on the :apple: Watch soon after its released...

I would say you have a 100% chance of seeing just about every conceivable water torture/test on YouTube in less that a week.
 
Do you have a source for this info? In the US if you offer a product with a published IP rating and it fails, then you MUST legally cover it under warranty.

There is no way Apple cane deny water damage warranty claims. If so they could be hit with an indefensible class action suite.

As it is hard to prove how deep the leaking watch was submerged, I would bet that Apple will prevail!
 
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