Watch OS 4.1 Beta and Apple music app, iphone as source??

Discussion in 'Apple Watch' started by fatmom, Sep 27, 2017.

  1. fatmom macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2017
    Can you now set the iphone as the source like it used to be? I dont want to install the beta since theres no way to roll back on a watch I think.
  2. anticipate macrumors 6502


    Dec 22, 2013
    No. It streams apple music library - through whatever data your watch has (phone, wifi, cell.). Your Apple Music library DOES show up, so you basically get the same thing on your watch. Whatever isn't loaded to the watch will stream. Jut like your phone.

    The now playing app on the watch continues to act like a BT remote to what is playing on your phone, like WatchOS 4.0.

    Basically, your Apple Music Library plays on all apple devices now, from ipads to ATV to iTunes to your phone and now the watch.
  3. fatmom thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2017
    The music app with os4 refuse to play song without BT headhpones connected, is the new apple music app the same? if you start a song without BT buds, will it just start playing on the iphone? (because thats how it used to work before)
  4. icewolf247 macrumors regular

    May 11, 2015
    Can't believe how they have ruined the watch by this one change

    They need to return the phone library to the watch
  5. fatmom thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2017
    the phone library is back, look at the hands on videos... however no one say if you need headphones paired to the watch or not to iniate music from the watch itself
  6. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

    Jul 15, 2006
    I don't see anything about the phone library being back in the hands-on video or in the beta currently running on my wrist.
  7. fatmom thread starter macrumors newbie

    Jul 25, 2017
    the 9to5 video clearly shows browsing his entire library on the watch
  8. hlfway2anywhere macrumors 65816

    Jul 15, 2006
    yeah, Apple Music library. that's the headline feature of this update.
  9. porkrind macrumors regular


    Jun 30, 2015
    To be clear, Apple Music library ≠ Music downloaded to phone.

    I mean, yeah, you could download your whole library to your phone, but I sure don't. It's not a requirement.
  10. icewolf247 macrumors regular

    May 11, 2015
    So to be clear, the functionality to use your watch as a remote to the music on your phone is still removed? So someone without apple music and/or net coverage cannot access their music

    I really hope apple is planning on putting this back as it is a significant downgrade in functionality. I really wish I had never updated the watch but made assumptions on apple. Not happy
  11. laminarpanda macrumors member


    Jan 28, 2008
    Hey all
    I have a question re Apple Music on Apple Watch. I know the beta has just been released and that there are still many questions, but here’s one I have:

    Let’s say I’m out with my iPhone and watch (LTE) and I want to play a song or album that is already downloaded on my iPhone but not my watch, I do this by using the new Apple Music app on my Apple Watch. Will the song stream using my iPhone’s data, or will it just play the one already downloaded on my iPhone. If it streams it, it’s such a waste of data and more importantly (for me) battery!

    This whole thing is a bit messy, let’s hope for a better integration in the future, where it doesn’t matter where you’re selecting the music (iPhone or watch) it just uses whatever source is available prioritising local downloads, then iPhone data, and finally the watch data. But that process should be done without the user never really noticing.
    And I do agree that it’s ridiculous that you can’t see you’re iPhone’s library if you don’t have Apple Music or a LTE watch!!
  12. madeirabhoy macrumors 6502a

    Oct 26, 2012
    when people say apple music, do you mean specifically the paid apple music? how does 4.1 work if you only have iTunes match?
  13. andresandiego macrumors regular


    Apr 7, 2015
    San Diego, Ca
    Yep Apple music is the paid subscription. The new music app on the watch will allow you to play all music you have in your iTunes Match library.

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