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Watch Prices are great, except for one thing

bluedoggiant

bluedoggiant

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Can you upgrade the internals for a reasonable price in the coming years when it gets inevitably updated?

For now, I'm holding my cash till I find out the answer. If it's yes, then it would be a great product.
 
I am not so sure they have it completely worked out yet. Only time will tell.

I am still skeptical how it could replace some of my timepieces that go great with my outfits. I feel as though an Watch would have to be worn constantly, and not when it just goes well with an outfit. No way am I going to drop my collection. Interesting to see how others use the watch.
 
bluedoggiant said:
I am not so sure they have it completely worked out yet. Only time will tell.

I am still skeptical how it could replace some of my timepieces that go great with my outfits. I feel as though an Watch would have to be worn constantly, and not when it just goes well with an outfit. No way am I going to drop my collection. Interesting to see how others use the watch.
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This is what I have not understood to this point. The people who would buy the Edition have many watches. The :apple:Watch clearly is meant to be worn everyday. It is not a rotation type of device.
 
I have a feeling these watches won't see technology upgrades every year like the phone. I think Apple will upgrade them on a two year cycle, and the upgrades won't be quite as massive. There's only so much you can accomplish on a watch, and many of those features appear to be there already. Lots of the features that the iPhone gets upgraded each year (camera, touchID, etc.) don't apply to the watch.
 
Nope. As Gruber suggested yesterday, it's not the S1 that makes the watch - it's the display, battery, antennae, sensors, all integrated.

Can you imagine 10 million people all trying to send in their watches for internals upgrades, and then being unhappy about what the upgrade ended up giving them? Total nightmare.

It'd quite literally be cheaper for Apple to sell you a new mass-produced one, rather than try to swap the guts on a million watches.

This is a sealed, as-is, non-upgradable product. It will always do what it did the day you bought it, but anything more than that needs to come in software.
 
This an appendage to the iPhone that relies on much of the iPhones power to operate. I don't think they'll need to update all that often.
 
redman042 said:
I have a feeling these watches won't see technology upgrades every year like the phone. I think Apple will upgrade them on a two year cycle, and the upgrades won't be quite as massive. There's only so much you can accomplish on a watch, and many of those features appear to be there already. Lots of the features that the iPhone gets upgraded each year (camera, touchID, etc.) don't apply to the watch.
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I imagine you're right in the sense of smaller upgrades, but I simply can't imagine Apple letting the Watch coast for two years at a time with no hardware changes/upgrades.

They probably won't be as radical as we've seen in iPhones, but we'll see our annual parade of upgraded batteries, faster processors, larger/denser screens with less bezel surround, changed form factors (now with angles!), faster/more-efficient radios, etc. as Apple iterates and relentlessly improves Apple Watch.
 
redman042 said:
I have a feeling these watches won't see technology upgrades every year like the phone. I think Apple will upgrade them on a two year cycle, and the upgrades won't be quite as massive. There's only so much you can accomplish on a watch, and many of those features appear to be there already. Lots of the features that the iPhone gets upgraded each year (camera, touchID, etc.) don't apply to the watch.
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That will be hard to accomplish next to everyone else updating at least yearly, faster in some cases.
 
It would be hard for apple to convince people to not only upgrade their phones every two years, but also their watches.

And I don't believe there are significant updates in store for the watch. Yes, they could make it slimmer, but as others have said, not much room for improvement hardware wise. Any updates would simply be design changes.

The issue is that software advances and computer chips must be able to hand the extra demand, even if the software stays the same, I feel as though over time the watch will become sluggish from "wear and tear" on the electrical components. There's a reason high tech cars nowadays that rely on electrical components don't last as long as their older more mechanical counterparts.
 
bluedoggiant said:
It would be hard for apple to convince people to not only upgrade their phones every two years, but also their watches.

And I don't believe there are significant updates in store for the watch. Yes, they could make it slimmer, but as others have said, not much room for improvement hardware wise. Any updates would simply be design changes.

The issue is that software advances and computer chips must be able to hand the extra demand, even if the software stays the same, I feel as though over time the watch will become sluggish from "wear and tear" on the electrical components. There's a reason high tech cars nowadays that rely on electrical components don't last as long as their older more mechanical counterparts.
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It's a high tech device - there are always room for improvements. Better battery life, smaller size, additional sensors, etc. It's pretty obvious that this in an important product for Apple - there is no way they will wait more than a year between updates.
 
One thing to consider is that I'm sure the Watch will have relatively good resale prices on the used market, so just sell the thing on eBay and move up.
 
jabingla2810 said:
If you could, they would have said so.

Looks like you won't be buying one this time.
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The more I think about it the more I'm skeptical Apple would say that right away. The product isn't even available for sale yet and Apple's already talking about how you upgrade to the next one? I think that would be a sales killer as it would broadcasting to the world this product has an extremely short lifespan. And maybe Apple hasn't figured all that out yet.

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Cashmonee said:
That will be hard to accomplish next to everyone else updating at least yearly, faster in some cases.
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Ah so the competition is practicing obsolescence at a faster rate than Apple?

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Runt888 said:
It's a high tech device - there are always room for improvements. Better battery life, smaller size, additional sensors, etc. It's pretty obvious that this in an important product for Apple - there is no way they will wait more than a year between updates.
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How many traditional watches get smaller? The display getting any smaller would make it less useful. I think these bands were designed to last so I expect the general shape to be here for a while. Maybe getting a little thinner if possible but still a shape that will hold the same bands. Apple didny design a $449 steel bracelet to be obsolete in one year.
 
douglasf13 said:
One thing to consider is that I'm sure the Watch will have relatively good resale prices on the used market, so just sell the thing on eBay and move up.
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I agree with this. Also you could just upgrade the body and keep the band, especially if you have higher end bands.
 
Rogifan said:
How many traditional watches get smaller? The display getting any smaller would make it less useful. I think these bands were designed to last so I expect the general shape to be here for a while. Maybe getting a little thinner if possible but still a shape that will hold the same bands. Apple didny design a $449 steel bracelet to be obsolete in one year.
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By smaller I mean thinner. There have been some reports of difficulties fitting the watcher under tight cuffs.
 
Rogifan said:
The more I think about it the more I'm skeptical Apple would say that right away. The product isn't even available for sale yet and Apple's already talking about how you upgrade to the next one? I think that would be a sales killer as it would broadcasting to the world this product has an extremely short lifespan. And maybe Apple hasn't figured all that out yet.

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Ah so the competition is practicing obsolescence at a faster rate than Apple?

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How many traditional watches get smaller? The display getting any smaller would make it less useful. I think these bands were designed to last so I expect the general shape to be here for a while. Maybe getting a little thinner if possible but still a shape that will hold the same bands. Apple didny design a $449 steel bracelet to be obsolete in one year.
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So which one will you be getting since the one in your avatar is $17,000? I think I'm going to go with the space black stainless steel link, but I'm tempted by the black modern buckle. Maybe I'll mix and match.
 
Rogifan said:
The more I think about it the more I'm skeptical Apple would say that right away. The product isn't even available for sale yet and Apple's already talking about how you upgrade to the next one? I think that would be a sales killer as it would broadcasting to the world this product has an extremely short lifespan. And maybe Apple hasn't figured all that out yet.

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How many traditional watches get smaller? The display getting any smaller would make it less useful. I think these bands were designed to last so I expect the general shape to be here for a while. Maybe getting a little thinner if possible but still a shape that will hold the same bands. Apple didny design a $449 steel bracelet to be obsolete in one year.
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Exactly my points.
 
KPOM said:
So which one will you be getting since the one in your avatar is $17,000? I think I'm going to go with the space black stainless steel link, but I'm tempted by the black modern buckle. Maybe I'll mix and match.
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I'm in love with the Space Black. I'm getting that one too. But I'll be buying an extra sport band for workouts.
 
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