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Matt T

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I don't mean for this to be an overtly negative or hyperbole-filled post, but since the Series 0 my Apple Watch has been my favourite Apple product and I genuinely feel that watchOS 7 has ruined almost everything I liked about my watch. I'm interested in whether anybody else shares a similar sentiment. Some of these changes are small nit-picks which add up to affect my overall experience/impressions, while others are more fundamental.

For the record these points continue to be true on watchOS 7.3, so updating my watch will not resolve these problems. I also recently wiped my Watch and set it up from scratch (which only caused more problems, as I explain below) so that is not a solution to my issues either.

For context I have a Series 4.

  1. The arbitrary removal of force touch continues to frustrate me. I understand it's a hardware change for the Series 6 and this change was most likely applied retroactively to older models for the sake of consistency, but it has been one of the Watch's best features from the beginning and I'm still bothered by the decision to remove it. For older models with the associated force touch hardware I would have preferred for it's software functionality to be disabled by default under watchOS 7 with the option to re-enable it.
  2. The delay in adjusting media volume feels arbitrary and unnecessary. watchOS 7 introduced a deliberate delay when changing media volume (you have to turn the crown for several 'ticks' before it's input begins to adjust the volume). I frequently use my Watch to control the volume of music and podcasts, particularly when I'm in the shower or have messy hands while I'm cooking etc, and the delay makes it more difficult to make finer adjustments. Like my previous point I wish this was treated as an option (default or not) which could be changed, but this would particularly make more sense as an accessibility option in my view.
  3. Switching between Apple Pay cards is more difficult now than before. I have 2 cards setup on my Watch - my default debit card and a secondary credit card. Previously I could switch to my secondary card after double-clicking the side button with a simple horizontal swipe, but now I need to be more deliberate and precise otherwise I'll swipe to a wallet pass instead. Something which used to be so simple and frictionless is now more complicated.
  4. Native sleep tracking is lacklustre and disappointing. This is a personal preference I'm sure not everybody will agree with, and thankfully it's manageable by sticking with the sleep tracking methods I used prior to watchOS 7, but I'm disappointed with watchOS' native sleep tracking functionality. The feature itself is strangely complex and clunky to setup, while the functionality it offers is too basic compared to third party apps. I had expected Apple's own implementation to offer features and insights third party apps could not, especially considering how long they waited to include it in watchOS, but they went in another direction.
  5. The GPS tracking and health data bug. The above 4 points are small nit-picks, but my remaining issues began with the GPS tracking bug in the early releases of watchOS 7. After a few weeks of lost sleep tracking data and workouts with no GPS data I followed their support article to reset my watch - the reset did fix that bug (which was also fixed about a month or 2 later with an update) but all of my remaining issues began after that reset.
  6. Inaccurate fitness and calorie tracking. Since the reset my Watch has been recording "exercise" and "burnt calories" at a much higher rate than normal. My previous activity goal was 600 calories a day, which I was usually close at the end of a normal day with about an hour's light exercise. I've since had to increase that goal to 900 calories but I still close my activity ring around mid-afternoon, even on days with barely any exercise at all. I've also noticed my watch counting driving as exercise and my elevation levels are dramatically incorrect. I've tried calibrating my watch as per Apple's support articles but it has not helped.
  7. Inaccurate stand detection. I purchased a standing desk a few weeks after upgrading to watchOS 7 and initially my number of stand minutes increased as I expected it to. Since the reset my watch records the same level of stand minutes as it did before I purchased the standing desk despite the amount of time I stand while I use my desk increasing during that time.
  8. Inaccurate wrist detection and/or automatic locking. Sometimes I will look at my Watch and it will ask me for a passcode, despite me not having removed it from my wrist since I last entered my passcode, and in some cases only a few minutes after the previous time.
  9. Activating 'Do Not Disturb' fails half the time. When activating DND on my Watch sometimes nothing happens. I open Control Centre, tap the DND icon, select 'On' or one of the other options... and nothing happens. I close and re-open control centre and the DND icon is still blank (indicating it's off); I check my iPhone and it's off there too; repeat the same steps on my Watch and suddenly it works. This bug is still present in 7.3.
  10. A blank watch face when my watch is locked. If I remove my watch from my wrist the watch face remains blank (black) until I re-enter my passcode, so I cannot tell time without wearing my watch. This was not the case with watchOS 6 and earlier versions, and I'm certain it wasn't true before I reset my watch either.

I would love to know if anybody else is also facing these issues or have any suggestions for how I can fix them. Please don't suggest resetting and reinstalling watchOS because that has only made my issues worse. The inaccurate health and fitness tracking is what bothers me the most since that was my primary motivation behind buying an Apple Watch in the first place.
 
4. Completely agree, not very useful with lacking metrics.

2. Kinda annoying sometimes but I understand why it works like this, to not trigger accidental volume ups that can cause ear damage.

1. I never used 3D Touch.

3. It’s ok for me.

Other points are bugs that I haven’t experienced.
 
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I purchased an Apple Watch for the first time when the series 6 was launched and sadly I gave up only 48 hours later having experienced the automatic brightness adjustment lock to dim with subsequent loss of response to the touch screen and two crashes / reboots. I'd love to discover either a) I was "doing it wrong" though hard to imagine how exactly, or, b) I was unfortunate enough to choose the one year when watchOS had poor quality control prior to release but fear not Apple has now identified and addressed the issues. I returned the device as it was within the 14 days window, I would rather know the issues have been resolved and then purchase a new device however from reading the forum posts for AW it is unclear to me four months on whether the situation is any different.

Even coming in cold to series 6 I agree with the OP re loss of force touch, it made far more sense on Apple Watch than on iOS where a menu of operations for an app felt a little arbitrary at times and less helpful, some of the workarounds / alternatives in watchOS7 feel clunky to use in comparison. I hope the removal of the hardware from series 6 does somehow benefit us more than the loss of the feature, robustness / reduced failures perhaps?

In summary I hope it is just watchOS7 but if so it was bad timing and has put me off AW ownership.
 
They RUINED the sleep alarm this update, you can no longer have the vibrations on the watch on a sleep alarm while having the alarm sound play through your phone. I upgraded to a series 5 from a series 2 at the weekend and I’ve been late for work every this week because stupid watch OS7 has totally ruined something that just worked. Im seriously considering returning and going back to my series 2 which doesn’t support watch OS7
 
6. Has gone the opposite for me. My daily lunch time 45 minute walk would always 100% complete over 10,000 steps. Since the update didn’t get past 8,000.
 
no issues here, same experience as before with watchOS 6, and yes, to your point re Apple Pay, they did switch to up/down vs left/right swipe for card options. that took me by surprise the first couple times but easy to get used to ...
 
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Series 6 is my first Apple Watch and I've only had a few minor bugs through the various WatchOS 7 versions so I can't complain. I really miss force touch on my iPhone X so I would of enjoyed having that feature on my watch.
 
I don't have any problems with my series 6.

Seep tracking - We were all told from the beginning it would be rudimentary. Apple didn't mislead anyone. The problem is you obviously expected something that clearly was never going to be.

Stand detection has been inaccurate for me less than a handful of times.

Calorie tracking is and always will be a guesstimate. I am not aware of any fitness device that offers 100% accurate results every time in this area.

The rest of the points haven't been an issue for me.
 
Agree with 1 and 2, especially 2. Such a stupid change, i understand why they did it but like you said, make it an option in the settings.

The one that bugs me is the Do Not Disturb change where you have to press the toggle then press again length of time when I just want to do it manually. I know its just 1 extra step but I use this a lot and having to do this every time is really annnoying.
 
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Number 2 is THE WORST. Very frustrating to have Apple unilaterally “solve” a problem I was NOT HAVING by creating a significantly inferior UI.
Exactly. I wore my series 3 every day for years, and I'm pretty active and not even ONCE had I ever accidentally changed my volume. Really hate this "feature", all it does is actually make it far more DANGEROUS for me to try to change my volume via the watch while I'm cycling.
 
Exactly. I wore my series 3 every day for years, and I'm pretty active and not even ONCE had I ever accidentally changed my volume. Really hate this "feature", all it does is actually make it far more DANGEROUS for me to try to change my volume via the watch while I'm cycling.
I actually like this feature. Eliminates accidental volume changes due to rubs from cycling gloves, which I used to frequently get, now no longer.
At first the change was frustrating and confusing, but once I understood how the "delay" works, I am fine with it.
Best would be if there was a choice.
 
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never updated my S5 to watchOS 7 and don't plan to. Nothing in there that interests me, and no complaints with watchOS 6.
 
For context, I have had a Series 2, 4 and now a 6.

I have never felt Apple's many of native apps on Watch, iPhone/iPad or Mac give me the experience I'm really looking for, so the good news is there are alternatives. Sleep tracking as an example on watch. I could have cared less Apple introduced it with WatchOS 7 because SleepWatch is my preferred app for sleep tracking. As you alluded to in your comment, you've got one that you like as well. Not sure that should carry much weight into ruining your appreciation for AW, but hey, you're entitled to your opinion.

Stand, has always been hit or miss with me. Mostly hits, but many misses as well. I get up move around walk about the house standing and moving and sometimes it does not register. No big deal, I close them out well past the 12 slotted but on occasion, I have missed it because of those one or two times I didn't get it. Sure, I'd like to keep the statistics valid but I know I stood and moved and ultimately, that's what the watch is trying to get you to do anyway. The watch only tracks the "data". If you moved, then you moved. This has been something I experienced in every Apple Watch I've ever owned.

As an aside, I enabled the hand washing notification because I was curious and that works probably 85% of the time as expected but sometimes it thinks I'm washing my hands when I'm not, thinks I stopped washing my hands when I didn't or doesn't count down as it should. I just deal with it, again similar to how it tracks stand notifications. As long as I know I did it, that's what's most important. Data or not.

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1, 2, 3 to me definitely apply to WatchOS 7 specifically as feature changes. Those things unfortunately happen every year, and sometimes any time a software version is released. Features gone or changed that you loved before the update. Such is the world of technology. Sometimes you win, sometimes not so much.

6,8,9, & 10 as I read them seem to almost tie specifically to your particular watch and or install of WatchOS 7 and that's unfortunate. Don't know how to address them, not denying they exist on your device or potentially others. It's almost like it's literally watch specific. Have you tried contacting Apple by chance? The only suggestion I could think of is to wipe it and reinstall but that's clearly not what you want to hear, anymore than you'd want to hear those issues have not happened to me.

Sucks you are unhappy and are dealing with many issues. Also sorry I cannot offer more helpful suggestions as to how to resolve.
 
I totally agree with 1, 2 and 4.

It was so easy to clear all notifications with a force touch. And the volume change delay is very annoying.
 
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