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Defective is not exclusive to hardware. It’s the same as Apple not advertising ECG capabilities anywhere on the Australian Website. Does the watch have the hardware for it? Yes it does, but they’re not falsely advertising as it is DISABLED in software. This is exactly the same, except Apple has some the reverse here. As they DID intentionally advertise force touch as a feature and have now taken it away.
But in this case it's a software change and people who buy the hardware don't own the software. It's licensed to us as consumers. Licensed software can legally be changed by the developer.
 
But did you read the entire T&C when you bought your Apple Watch? It will invalid your rant. And features on the watch are ran by software. I really do wish people would read the T&C before coming here saying what Apple should not be allowed to do.

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Generally the courts have taken a dim view of screwing over customers and then saying - its software dummy. We told you in a 100 Page document you had to sign before you could use your device.
 
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Generally the courts have taken a dim view of screwing over customers and then saying - its software dummy. We told you in a 100 Page document you had to sign before you could use your device.
Well then by your "facts" companies shouldn't even bother posting legal documents such as their T&C since they won't hold up in court.
Keep in mind you never owned the software, it was just licensed to you.
 
Oh boo hoo: trillion dollar tech company doesn’t want to spend a few thousand $$ supporting a feature on devices barely a year old. Might hurt those hundreds of billions of $$ in revenue.

A few thousand? watchOS is probably a huge codebase. So no, it wouldn't be a few thousand. Testing takes a time and resources. If it takes 5 minutes to make a code change that doesn't mean work is done after 5 minutes. It usually takes more time to review, test, and deploy than to actually make the code change. Also, that time and resources takes away from maintaining more relevant code or working on future, more meaningful projects. These things is where the costs start adding up.

And as I said before, it's not like Apple to put a lot of resources into something they're phasing out anyway. If there were more people using it or it were a larger impact, I could see them slowly phasing it out. But here's some anecdotal evidence that it was barely used: here on MacRumors this post currently has just 155 comments after almost 24 hours. On an Apple-centric site this story is barely more than average; there's no tweet storm of users complaining it's gone; news media has't sad anything; there's no angry FaceBook mob with pitchforks over it. So it just makes sense for Apple to nix it now.

I agree that Apple is making so much money they can certainly afford it. But one of the reasons they're making so much money is they make good business decisions (or at least try to). And putting effort into maintaining Force Touch for a tiny user base is not a good business decision. You don't start making bad business decisions simply because "we can afford it."

Reminder that I like Force Touch and would love to keep it around. I just see what I think is the reality of the situation.
 
I used it all the time - especially when clearing notifications. I find myself still trying to use force touch as I use my watch and then wonder why its not working...
 
I’ve got Watch OS7 on my AW5 and force touch still works to change the watch face
Yes - I was wondering about that. It does work for changing the watch face on AW5. The article mentions that this is simply a long press, but it feels just like force touch.
 
I'll be honest. the notification one drives me crazy. i used the long press clear religiously, now i have to 'scroll up' - sometimes many many pages if I haven't had time to check notifications all day. what a terribly annoying change.
 
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I think part of the problem was that many people wouldn’t use it because they felt they might break it somehow.

“Push the glass until it bends” just doesn’t compute for some people.


You're using your phone wrong if you're pushing that hard. I have my force settings set to firm despite the cracked glass and exposed display panel and there hasn't been a single issue with the functionality with very regular use
 
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Honestly the one I miss the most is the one not mentioned in the article:
Where is the "Disable this notification on Watch / Send as secondary" menu?
I used it all the time for annoying notifications like those from games, real estate apps etc...

I'm almost ok with all the others, although I hate the waste of space for new buttons and the added scrolling required.
I still think though that a consistent long-press replacement (as on the XR, which I love), just like they did for Change Watch Face, would have been both smooth for old users and intuitive enough for new ones.
 
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Does anyone know how to change Siri languages when replying to a message with this new interface? Before you just started the Siri dictation mode and then force pressed the screen to switch from English to Danish for example, but i wonder how it is done now?
 
Does anyone know how to change Siri languages when replying to a message with this new interface? Before you just started the Siri dictation mode and then force pressed the screen to switch from English to Danish for example, but i wonder how it is done now?

I've just replied to a Whatsapp notification and it was already there, between the three buttons (Dictate, Write, Emoji) and the canned replies.
 
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I've just replied to a Whatsapp notification and it was already there, between the three buttons (Dictate, Write, Emoji) and the canned replies.
Does that mean you can just pick dication in Danish or dictation in English? (depending on enabled languages)
 
Does that mean you can just pick dication in Danish or dictation in English? (depending on enabled languages)
Exactly, see these photos I've just taken.
 

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Exactly, see these photos I've just taken.

Awesome! Thanks for the photos. That makes me a bit more relaxed as I am waiting for a new Apple Watch. If I could not do this, 80% of my workflow would be brown on the watch. It seems to be one extra step compared to before, but as long as it works I am good. :)
 
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Well, there went a feature I used a lot. I was wondering why my :apple:Watch Series 4 "glitched out" and opened the calendar when I went to change my watch face. It didn't, I just didn't have Force Touch.
:(

I used it all the time on iPhone - gone.
I used it a lot on :apple:Watch - gone.
Only a matter of time before it is no longer supported in macOS (or did Big Sur already axe it?)
 
Ah man what a bummer. I wish they would have kept it accessible to the models which have the hardware to support this.

I kinda got why Apple moved away from it on the phone, as discoverability was really poor in regards to all the ways it could be used. But I wish Apple would have doubled down on making it work better instead of just completely ditching it. Still miss that functionality but it works okay without.

On the watch though I really feel the discoverability wasn’t a problem as you didn’t have to press on a specific point on the screen to use it(probably what made it so confusing on the phone. So many places actions could hide). I hate this new implementation for dismissing notifications. If you have a ton you have to spend time scrolling aaaaall the way to the top. At least put the button to dismiss all of them in the bottom.
Also, on the watch there’s so few buttons/dials for interaction with the OS. Firm press, I feel, was a great way to enhance interactivity without having ‘redundant’ buttons/dials.

Anyway. Will be missing this way more on the watch than on the phone. Sad to see/feel it disappear.
we all know they remove it coz of money saving. that's it. no need to over thinking
 
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