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Spotify has NEVER worked exactly right on Apple products, and rather than hiring a competent development team, they just cry to the press about Apple keeping them down.

Spotify has worked for me flawlessly on both my iPhone and iPad, but I did hear complaints about its behaviour on Apple Watch.
 
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The Wired still classifies Spotify as a best-in-class listening experience:

Well if Wired says it, it must be objectively true!
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I’d argue that it’s up to the OS developer to maintain compatibility, but that has never been Apple’s way.
Disagree.

It’s up to the OS developer to give notice periods about breaking changes. The beta period of a few months that many have mentioned was Apple’s notice period where Spotify should have noticed that their watch app isn’t working.
 
The issue seems to be the API though, which comes from Apple
Agreed, but many organizations change their APIs. The consumers of those APIs are required to keep up with the changes, not the source organization. The responsibility of the source organization is to give advance notice of the change, which Apple has done with their beta programs.

I cannot fathom asking Apple to individually track down and coordinate their API changes with every app developer. That's what release notes and bug reporting in the beta program is designed to accomplish.

Imagine a new app developer designing a new app for an Apple operating system. Apple's responsibility is to keep the APIs documented, not to hold the hands of the developer designing the app.
 
Spotify has terrible programmers, maybe they don't pay them like they don't pay the artists - would never use simply out of principle. why wouldn't they have tested this?
 
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Oh, you really should consider switching, I find the search in Apple Music itself to be a bit luckstar…but the good news is Apple Music ties into iTunes so it there’s an album you search for in iTunes that is also on Apple Music there is a link at the top to take you straight to Apple Music to add/stream/download it, it’s pretty nifty
Been a long time Spotify user and number of months ago moved my playlists to Apple Music. I really want to wean myself away from Spotify and use AM. What I like is that my extensive music library (mostly ripped CD's) is uploaded into AM and is available. Can't do that with Spotify. I wish they would support local libraries.

On the other hand, Spotify recommendations and playlists are SO MUCH better than AM that I have a really hard time switching. I'm not sure why AM recommends genres that I have never ONCE played?

I used to get free Spotify Premium through AT&T but they ditched that and then I was on a 6-month free promo and now that is up and I'm trying hard not to pay and stick with AM. I certainly don't need to pay for 2 music services.
 
While I was at Microsoft each version of windows released had a set of tests for “core third part apps” the we ran. We caught incompatibilities this way. We put out in the release notes when an app broke with a windows release whether the bug was in windows or the app. Not every app was tested but iTunes (yeah it was still iTunes) was absolutely on that list.
With its massive user base I’d be hard pressed to to believe that Spotify is not a core app for Apple. Yes, Spotify should have caught this with the betas but I’d argue so should have apple as a real world test of their OS.
 
While I was at Microsoft each version of windows released had a set of tests for “core third part apps” the we ran. We caught incompatibilities this way. We put out in the release notes when an app broke with a windows release whether the bug was in windows or the app. Not every app was tested but iTunes (yeah it was still iTunes) was absolutely on that list.
With its massive user base I’d be hard pressed to to believe that Spotify is not a core app for Apple. Yes, Spotify should have caught this with the betas but I’d argue so should have apple as a real world test of their OS.
Not that it matters, but I don't agree with that approach. It's why we still have legacy code lying around and XP lasted so long. Let the developers own the code they develop.
 
While I was at Microsoft each version of windows released had a set of tests for “core third part apps” the we ran. We caught incompatibilities this way. We put out in the release notes when an app broke with a windows release whether the bug was in windows or the app.
Absolutely, this is a standard everywhere I've worked as well. Surely this is a standard practice at Apple as well. If it's not, it damn well should be. If it is, there's zero reason why this shouldn't be caught. I'm honestly surprised with all the public betas out there they didn't get any notice.
 
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Not that it matters, but I don't agree with that approach. It's why we still have legacy code lying around and XP lasted so long. Let the developers own the code they develop.
Sure, I don't disagree with that, but you should be testing core 3rd party apps with your launch and noting that the app is the problem, not the OS as mzeb said.
 
Sure, I don't disagree with that, but you should be testing core 3rd party apps with your launch and noting that the app is the problem, not the OS as mzeb said.
I don't agree. Let Spotify manage their own app, like any other developer and/or company. I'd rather Apple, and any company really, focus their attention on getting their things done.
 
I realize nothing is free, but ad supported Spotify is a horrible listening experience.

So much that I'm trying Apple Music again.
And even with bluetooth quality audio, the difference is noticeably better on Apple Music.
 
My thoughts exactly. Did Apple change the code from the beta right before the public release? Or did Spotify not do any testing whatsoever?
So, let's apply Occum's Razor to this.

Option 1: Spotify and all the Beta users never tested Spotify in the whole beta cycle.

Option 2: A late beta change (even a change in the RC) broke by Apple something for Spotify.

What is a more reasonable option? Unless you believe that Apple is perfect and every other company in the world are run by idiots, then Option 2 is the most likely.

And, considering there are reports that watchOS 9.1b FIXES the issue, I think that late change by Apple breaking Spotify is a reasonable assumption.

But, don't let logic get in the way of trashing a competitor of Apple.
 
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Considering that Spotify doesn’t work on BT headphones without the phone anyway, I don’t see this as a big change. There’s no benefit to downloading tracks to your watch because it will still use your phone. It’s just not a well made watch app.
 
But, don't let logic get in the way of trashing a competitor of Apple.

I asked two questions, one that would "trash" Apple if the answer was affirmative, and the other Spotify. As for Occam's Razor, either option seems unconscionable to me. For Spotify to not test would be unlikely, but so would Apple making a last minute change like that, which would defeat the purpose of beta testing.

Not sure how 9.1 beta purportedly fixing the issue makes the answer any clearer. Whether it was a bug not caught due to Spotify's failure to test or a bug introduced by Apple last minute, it would be reported and (hopefully) fixed either way.
 
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I asked two questions, one that would "trash" Apple if the answer was affirmative, and the other Spotify.
That was more of a general question, not specific to you. Sorry if it came across as directed to you.

But, on MR, there are a number of posters that immediately side with Apple and quickly accuse Spotify of not beta testing. That is a pretty extreme assumption and is not realistic.

P.S. I am not going to trash Apple if the bug is an OS bug. It happens.But, I am also not going to start trashing other companies without knowing the facts or at least applying logic to the situation.
 
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